TheFiend1

Good to know about both cases! I thought for sure I was already using Class D but I guess not; thank you for the correction. Here are a couple photos a just snapped of how everything is currently layed out. Dont mind some of the clutter (and the AVR sitting on the floor...), still trying to get things situated for Christmas

Thank you all for the solid advice!! It's helped solve a lot of where I should go. To Derrick: They are about a foot away from the wall, 8ft apart, and about 10.5ft away from the listening point. There isn't really a sidewall to the right but to the left its about 4 ft away with the corner of the wall filled in for the gas fireplace. I'll post a pic tomorrow so as to be more specific. Don't get me wrong, I think they sound great but only at higher volumes and if you are in the sweet spot. No doubt things can be tweaked further with the pioneer to tailor the sound a bit better and with room correction. I just made a pretty big purchase over the weekend and bought the Pioneer SC-97 at Best Buy. They were having an undisclosed sale on it for $1599, so I made the jump. I also purchased the Marantz SR7010 from Crutchfield.com. BB wasn't offering a sale on the Marantz and neither was crutchfield but BB was gonna charge me tax and me no like California taxes... I'm really excited to test out the Marantz - but I'm concerned about it being 120 watts per channel versus the Pioneers 140 watts per channel... It's surprising to me especially when the SR7010 is Marantz flagship... You'd think it would be more. It's also class AB compared to the pioneers class D. I've read up on both and basically came out with: one draws considerably more power than the other but sound pretty much the same. After checking the specs on the units the SR7010 uses 710 watts of consumption vs 370! So that's pretty clear. I believe my current vsx92txh uses class d as well. Anyone have any preference or thoughts about this? In either case I will still get a separate 2 channel amp either from Marantz to match or Rotel (since they offer class D) to drive the L/R.

Hey guys! Sorry for the late reply, it has been an insanely busy week. The RF5s that I owned had plenty of bass especially with movies. They were a fantastic pair and didn't want to sell them to anyone so I gave them to my dad so they stayed in the family I was also living in a loft at the time so the ceilings were very high. My RF7-ii's provides plenty of bass when it calls for it but unfortunately I don't get to listen at reference very often since I live in an apartment... Which is also why I don't have a subwoofer currently But soon I shall. I stopped at my local Best Buy over the weekend and checked out what they had in their Magnolia Theater section (holy crap they had some high end gear there, the entire new B&W 800D3 series with McIntosh mono block amps! Not my cup of tea but they sure look nice). They didn't have the SC-97 that I was looking for but they did demo the Pioneer SC-99 (basically the same except with a DAC) and a Marantz 7010 AVR on a pair of B&W CM10s. They both sounded great - obviously it has a lot to do with the room and the speakers (I do love the CM10s) - the Marantz sounded a bit more refined though... Which has me tossed up. I was going in thinking the Pioneer was the one I was going to get because I like the sound I'm getting from my current Elite which has the Air Studios Certification and I'm worried that I'm going to be missing something if I don't get one without it. I guess I have to just demo them both in my place to see which one I like best. Even though I'm satisfied with what I have now, i don't have enough hdmi ports in my current one and I'd like to get replace it for one with more features and with the current generation out right now it will future proof me for probably the next 10 years.

Hey guys! I currently have the RF7ii system (with rc64ii, rs62ii, no sub though... Currently living in an apartment) paired up with a Pioneer Elite VSX-92TXH. I'm thinking about upgrading the AVR for the new Pioneer Elite SC-97 and my main concern is - will that be enough to drive a 7 channel + potential atmos setup and is the Pioneer Elite a good match for my speakers? The reason I ask is complicated - I've always kind of felt like the RF7ii's are lacking something that my first gen RF5s had. They felt faster and punchier especially bass wise. I purchased them second hand and the owner said it had upgraded wiring or something - I can't remember exactly. I ended up giving those to my father when I picked up the RF7ii's. Those were also powered by the same avr. The only thing that has changed is swapping those out for the rf7ii's and moving to a different apartment - which I know can effect the sound depending on the room but I still feel like it's lacking that charm my RF5s had which makes me wonder if the RF7ii's need more power, or is it something else... I have heard of the "Dean G crossover" mod but I'm not even sure what that will do for me. I mostly use this for bluray movies but I do enjoy 2-channel music from time to time on them. However, with music I definitely feel like something is up there because something has always felt "off." Like it sounds hollow without a lot of bass. Linear PCM from the disc player... So many questions. Seek wisdom I do. Any thoughts or advice, criticisms or such as - my body is ready. Thanks in advance! Ryan

Los Angeles! Glendale to be exact

Just a thought. Maybe a good quality DAC between your PC and your Pioneer AVR is in order. I am sure the 92txh has decent DACs for an 8 year old AVR but I bet you could improve on that noticeably. Maybe even an outboard amp to go along with your Pioneer. Just things to consider before giving up on your RF-7II's. Bill I definitley dont plan on giving up on them. I really like them and im sure there is something that can be done to make them sound more full. But right now its not there for music, and im not sure why. The AVR is set to pure direct/direct when playing from the optical in on stereo. I spend a lot of time on the AVS Forums and many people have told me that an external DAC is practically "snake oil." But in the past year I went to CES and visited a booth where they had a Macbook Pro playing itunes out through the Benchmark DAC2 over to an amp plugged into a pair of B&W CM10 and it sounded amazing. I walked away thinking thats the sound I want to hear when I listen to music. Im just not getting it with my RF7ii's which doesnt make sense. I wish I had access to a good DAC/Amp so I can see first hand if having an external DAC truly makes a difference.

Thanks guys! I originally had bare wire on it but thought maybe of doing a cleaner installation -- and also because I heard it was "bad" to leave bare copper exposed due to oxidation issues blah blah blah. I have the rest of the RF7ii system and everything else has the banana plugs. Right now they are utiltizing the ones from Monoprice but then I got the GLS ones so they look a little nicer but im rethinking it since they are extremely tight trying to shove them into the posts.

I wish my Rf7iis sounded better for 2 channel music they sound hollow and not very detailed at all. During movies it's insanely good. But listening to 2 channel music makes me sad. I'm running a fiber optic from my pc which is playing lossless tracks to my pioneer elite vsx92txh straight to the towers. Been thinking about getting a different set of speakers better suited for music and an integrated amp :/

Just out of curiosity, what did you not like about the 103 that made you sell it and keep the PS3?

Hey guys, I'm curious how you guys wired your RS-62ii speakers, since they sit flush with the wall. I just bought new banana plugs from GLS and they are massive and stick out too far preventing the speaker to sit back properly on the wall. Aside from them being to big for that, the binding post that sticks into the speaker terminal is also really big and I really have to shove it in there -- should it be that tight? I'm afraid of damaging something. (Just realized how wrong that last sentence sounded but there was no other way to put it. Ha.) Thanks!

Hey guys it was definitely caps. I pried them off with a butter knife and behold, female banana plug. Thanks everyone I don't know why I didn't think about that before. I do have one last question, do the rf7 ii's require any burn in time? They sound a little hollow right now. Thanks again.

Yea I see the red and black terminals. I didnt think those things in the middle were caps. Thanks! Cant wait to plug these puppies in!

It looks like this in the image (except mine doesnt have the holes, like shown in 2 of the terminals) am I supposed to remove something? Thanks!

Hello, I just upgraded my RF-5 Speakers to the new RF7ii speakers. Really happy with them... so far. I havent plugged them in yet because the plugs ive been using on the previous speakers are Banana plugs that I just stick right in the terminals. The RF7ii's dont have that. I have to twist the terminals open, but it doesnt give me a hole to plug the banana plug into. (in the instructions it says that banana plugs will work) Am I doing it wrong? Thanks

Bump. Even hearing an RF-83 would be nice.

All the Ken Cranes only have up to the RF-82 line. I already checked with those places. I appreciate you trying though. Thanks

Hey Bill, Too bad im not in Florida anymore I just moved from Venice, Florida out to California for work. Its kind of a shame I cant find any place around her that has them in stock.

Thanks Bill, I really hope I can find them somewhere near by so I can hear them. Id hate to make a decision to buy from another speaker company based on the fact that I couldnt hear the other. If I went with the RF63s Id pair it up with the RC64 center channel as well as surrounds powered by a Pioneer Elite SC-27 AVR.

Hey guys! Im trying to decided on some speakers for my home theater and Klipsch speakers have been of some interest for some time now. Bad thing is there is no dealer in my area for me to come and listen to them. Im particularly in the interest of the Reference series RF63 series: http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/product...stem-overview/ My other choice is Paradigm. The goal for my home theater speakers: Create a Full, powerful, Dynamic sound stage for a "in the movie" experience for home theater use. If anyone is in the Los Angeles, Burbank, Beverly hills area or knows anyone who has any of these speakers - It would be awesome if I could hear how they sound. Its kind of hard to make a decision based off of reviews alone. Id hate to spend lots of money on a set of speakers that I picked because I couldnt hear the other ones. Best buy does not have them Only the Icon series. Everywhere else around here only "installs" them, no retailers. Thanks guys!