Legairre

Bob, Sorry for the mistake. When I saw the model number for the RC-3s tweeter(K-105) and the RF-5s tweeter(K-119) on the Klipsch site I assumed the tweeters were different. I guess I just prefer the sound of all my speaker being vioced the same. That's what I have now and if possible I'd like to get it in my next surround setup. It makes the panning from left/right & front to rear more seamless. ------------------ "What do you mean its too loud? My ears aren't even bleeding yet!" Radden Home Theater

Heard them this weekend while visiting my wife's father in N.C. I've been trying to decide wether to go with the Paradigm Studio 100 or the RF-5 or RF-7s. My problem was Klipsch doesn't have a center channel with the same exact tweeter as the RF-5s. So I was concerned about timbre matching. I finally heard the RF-5s with the RC-3 and the RC-7. The dealer used the scene from Airforce One where the jets do a circular fly by around Airforce One. To my ears the RF-5s using the RC-3 or RC-7 centers didn't have a seamless blend across the front. I then decided to listen to the RF-7s and they matched REALLY well with the RC-7 center. The sound between the RF-7s and the RC-7 was dead on. The tone didn't change as it did with the RF-5/RC-5 & 7 combos. The jet passed from one speaker to the other without any change in pitch or tone. The front trio blended nicely. Even though the speakers blended well I didn't feel that sound and PRICE wise that the RF-7s were in the same league as the Paradigm Studio 100s. Before everyone goes and starts creaming at me let me say that I'm a HUGE fan of horn speakers. I spent the last month waiting to hear the RF-5s and RF-7's. I've also been resisting going away from horn speakers because I love the way they direct the sound and eliminate the nasty reflections that non-horn based speakers produce. I guess my expectation may have been too high. I guess that can happen when you read too much and wait too long for something. ------------------ "What do you mean its too loud? My ears aren't even bleeding yet!" Radden Home Theater

Bensilb, We're definitely in the same part of the state. I work up in Hartford, so it only made sense to take a trip down the Berlin turnpike on the way home and stop in at Tweeters. They had two demo rooms. One for stuff like B&K, Proceed, Sonus Faber, and Mirage and the other for Bose, Klipsch, Boston Acoustics and some Vienna speakers. The RF-3s were lined up in row with other speakers on each side of them. A really lousy way to demo speakers. Kind of like going to CC or Bernie's home appliances to demo speakers. They didn't have any room to breath. It's almost as bad as putting the speakers right up against a big rear projection TV. They had some KLF20s that sounded pretty good. Really nice highs with a sweet bottom end. I'm not giving up on Klipsch speakers for two reasons. 1) I'm a fan of horns. I really love my JBLs. 2). I feel that the demo was not a good representation of the RF-3s. I've set my speaker budget at $1500.00 for the front pair. I've heard the Paradigm Studio 100s and PSB Silver's. Even though the Paradigms go for around $2200.00. I can get them for $1400.00, because I have a Canadian friend that would buy them up there and ship them to me. The PSB are also around the $1500.00 mark. I'm dying to hear the RF-5s. I instantly fell in love with the Paradigms, but I have got to hear some horns before straying away from horns and going with regular tweeters. My problem is finding some place that's going to have some RF-5s to demo. ------------------ "What do you mean its too loud? My ears aren't even bleeding yet!" Radden Home Theater

JimG, Thanks for the reply. I stopped by the local Tweeter yesterday and after looking it up on the computer. The salesman said they are only getting 5 pairs of RF-5s for 30 stores. He also said the likelyhood that his store will get one of those 5 pairs is real slim. I'm sure he was just trying to move his current inventory of speakers first. He kept pushing the "buy some speakers now and bring them back in thirty days for the RF-5s if we have them" speach. Since I was there I figured why not listen to the RF-3s as a reference for how the RF-5s might sound. This Tweeter's listening room from an audible point of view was a joke, so my demo wasn't a good experience. I ended up listening to the RF-3s and some Mirage OM9s. First let me say that the OM9s sounded like they had a blanket over them. Very warm and muffled sounding. I liked the warm part, but they just sounded dull, with muffled highes and no imaging. When I mentioned that there wasn't any imaging the salesman said it was because of the omni-polar design of the OM9s. When I listened to the RF-3s I was disappointed in their sound as well. With so many people that like love them it must have been the setup/listening room combination. To me the RF-3s sounded lively, but with muddy bass and no soundstage at all. Like I said the setup was terrible so I don't feel I've had a chance to really hear them. Maybe I can find another store with a better setup. Once again thanks for your reply. ------------------ "What do you mean its too loud? My ears aren't even bleeding yet!" Radden Home Theater

BobG, Thanks for the reply. Guess I'm still confused. In all my dealing/reading about speaker matching. I've never heard of a voiced matched center that didn't share the tweeter. I'm only guessing here but it sounds like the RF-5 is the Jan Brady of the reference line with a compromise in the center matching vs a true center thats voice matched. I did consider the RF-7 and RC-7 setup, but I have four subs(2 12" 250watt running off the LFE and 2 10" 150 watt running off the surrounds), so bass isn't a problem. The RF-5 just seem to fit the bill for fronts. One of the reasons I'm asking is that the Paradigm messed up with the Studio 80s in their reference line. The 80's use a different size mid-range driver than the rest of the Studio series and aren't a good match for any of the other Studio speakers. I'm just wondering if Klipsch did the same thing with the RF-5s not having a center with the same tweeter. Usually if the tweeter in the three front speakers is not the same then the panning across the front will work, but it won't be seamless. Thanks Legairre ------------------ "What do you mean its too loud? My ears aren't even bleeding yet!" Radden Home Theater

I tried posting this on the technical forum, but no one seems to be able to answer my question. I currently don't own any Klipsch speakers, but I might soon. I'm really interested in the RF-5s, but my dealer won't have any in stock until July 16th. So until then I'm reaserching them as much as possible. I currently have horn speakers(JBLHLS series). They sound different than other speakers and I like the way the horns give an un-colored sound. I really like the Paradigm's, but I want to here the Klipsch RF-5s because I'm a fan of horn speakers and I love it when music sounds like a live concert(I keep hearing the Klipsch speakers have this effect). I've been in the market for new speakers lately. I've checked out Paradigm Studio(60v2s & 100v2), PSB Silver i, and now I'm up to the Klipish reference line. My question is. Why don't the RF-5s have a center channel speaker that's voice matched? The RF-3 fronts use the same tweeter as the RC-3 center and the RF-7 fronts use the same tweeter as the RC-7 center, but the RF-5 fronts don't have a center channel speaker with same tweeter. The Klipsch site shows that both the RC-3 center and the RC-7 center work with the RF-5 fronts,but hows can these centers be voice matched with the RF-5s when they don't use the same tweeter? Below are the fronts and center speakers with the tweeters they use from the Klipsh web site. Are the crossovers set to match both centers? Fronts RF-3 tweeter = K-105-K 1" (2.54cm) Titanium dome RF-7 tweeter = K-67-DV 1.75" (4.45cm) Titanium dome RF-5 tweeter = K-119-KB 1" (2.54cm) Titanium dome Centers RC-3 tweeter = K-105-K 1" (2.54cm) Titanium dome RC-7 tweeter = K-67-DV 1.75" (4.45cm) Titanium dome ------------------ "What do you mean its too loud? My ears aren't even bleeding yet!" Radden Home Theater

This is my first post here. I currently don't own any Klipsch speakers, but I might soon. I'm really interested in the RF-5s, but my dealer won't have any in stock until July 16th. So until then I'm reaserching them as much as possible. I currently have horn speakers(JBLHLS series). They sound different than other speakers and I like the way the horns give an un-colored sound. I really like the Paradigm's, but I want to here the Klipsch RF-5s because I'm a fan of horn speakers and I love it when music sounds like a live concert(I keep hearing the Klipsch speakers have this effect). I've been in the market for new speakers lately. I've checked out Paradigm Studio(60v2s & 100v2), PSB Silver i, and now I'm up to the Klipish reference line. My question is. Why don't the RF-5s have a center channel speaker that's voice matched? The RF-3 fronts use the same tweeter as the RC-3 center and the RF-7 fronts use the same tweeter as the RC-7 center, but the RF-5 fronts don't have a center channel speaker with same tweeter. The Klipsch site shows that both the RC-3 center and the RC-7 center work with the RF-5 fronts,but hows can these centers be voice matched with the RF-5s when they don't use the same tweeter? Below are the fronts and center speakers with the tweeters they use from the Klipsh web site. Are the crossovers set to match both centers? Fronts RF-3 tweeter = K-105-K 1" (2.54cm) Titanium dome RF-7 tweeter = K-67-DV 1.75" (4.45cm) Titanium dome RF-5 tweeter = K-119-KB 1" (2.54cm) Titanium dome Centers RC-3 tweeter = K-105-K 1" (2.54cm) Titanium dome RC-7 tweeter = K-67-DV 1.75" (4.45cm) Titanium dome ------------------ "What do you mean its too loud? My ears aren't even bleeding yet!" Radden Home Theater