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Fortes yes
Heresys yes
both work in your room size
both are different speaker design concepts, with their own trade offs.
If you go Heresy, they need to be on end tables, Ikea has some black ones for $9 ea that rock.
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I have 8 amps on the shelves behind me
One on my work bench, another I have to order the parts for to re-cap it
In the LR I have 5, 4 on my surround system Yamaha, and my McIntosh stack for the LaScalas
The Yamaha's have a slightly better sound than the Mac, two generations newer, but I like the blue lights
Upstairs, its' 3 more receivers and a killer Yamaha stereo separates stack with heresy's
Every Amp has it's own intricacies and design trade offs.
Each one has it's own sound, which yes you can sit and pick them apart
One of the best sounding is a Yamaha surround the DSP A -700
Mint used they sell for $100 or less, it was Yamaha's statement product the year they brought it out
New I think it might have been between $2-3000
Using it with no pre amp, the sound is awesome even with a cheap Sony CD player
The Yamaha MX 600, 800, 1000 Amps sound is awesome, and can be run with no pre amp
They run in Class A for the first few watts, with LaScalas .5 watts is screaming.
Maybe a passive volume control or a DAC with an integral volume control
If the money is not an issue on the Marantz, why not have a fling with it ?
Do some research and see if the Marantz is biased to run in Class A for the first few watts
Class A mode will generate lots of heat, I would get a silent USB fan and leave it on top of the unit plugged into the switched socket.
As long as you can sell it for what your paid, why not ?
My acid test for any of them, is female vocal with few if any instruments or just piano
is the voice clear, is it natural, easy to understand ?
Are the piano strikes realistic, from zero to wide open on the strike.
Piano covers almost the entire range of audible music
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I have had good luck with LaScallas in just about any space
10-15 feet apart they sound great
Corners, no corners doesn't matter. On the wall or off of the wall works.
Thick carpet in the middle of the room is a plus
Absorbent furniture is a plus
Book cases with books or curtains at the back of the room for damping.
Sound is always better with open windows.
Glass is highly reflective, curtains work for damping when closed.
In your space, I would put the TV in the middle of them and use the LaScalas for sound
Getting line level, from the TV or source device or both is all you need downmixed to stereo.
I put some small wheels on the bottoms of my LaScalas a few years ago
Mids line up to my ears even better, and it's much easier to clean or rearrange them or get to the backs
Get smoked Glass tops for the speakers, somehow a lamp or other will be placed on top of the speaker, no plants
Enjoy
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Agree with Shakey
There are so many good new $500 integrated stereo amps for not much money, why reach way back
A good 50 Watt amp should be plenty
I would spec out all of the offerings everyone seems to have one.
If you have to recap an old one, expect $300 if you can't do it yourself
Plan B, used surround receivers with great DAC chip sets are a dime a dozen
I picked up a great sounding Harmon Kardon for $20, 70 Watts with DAC and phone, tone controls
Class AB with massive transformer
My two cents
The speakers may need to be recapped or new crossovers and new gaskets for the horns
On some of mine, I had to replace the internal speaker wires, dry rot after 45 years.
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When I don't need them
I see La Scalas in good condition for 1200-2000 pair
Depending on the year 1970s-1980s used
Crossovers can be recapped or changed out
Same for the compression drivers
Expect to recap, new gaskets for the compression drivers min
Crites sells both
Lots of options if you want new crossovers
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Ciao !
Where in Italy ?
Congratulations on your Mac Heresy combination
You can't go wrong with quality components.
Every Amp has it's own sound, so more expensive may not sound the way you like it
When you get into the quality components, it's a game of 1% improvement to the gear, the room, the source etc .. With Klipsch, you don't need hundreds of Watts with all of the cost, weight, engineering complications and added expense
I like Mac and Yamaha sound from the 70-80s
Frequently, opening an outside door or window has the biggest improvement
A heavy curtain or book shelves behind your favorite chair can make big improvements
The Heresys will sound best on end tables so that the mid horn aka squaker is at the same level as your ears with the speaker flat to the table, no slant risers under them.
IKEA has some tables for 10 E each that work well
If you have a hard floor, an area rug will make a big improvement in the center of the room.
Hard walls, floors, windows all reflect sound.
If you want to experiment, it can be done inexpensively
Kenwood, Yamaha, Tecnics produced many great 30-60 Watt Integrateds with phono sections
These can be had for as little as 30-50 Euros
If you want to go a little further into the sampling hobby
You can learn to replace the capacitors on working units
One of my best sounding integrates is a Yamaha early surround simulation amp
It was the Statement Product for Yamaha that year, the pride of the company
Turn off the surround electronics, the analog stereo section sounds great compared to anything
I got it for free from someone clearing out their basement
The links below are a goldmine of information
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$200 Class A the first few watts
Half watt is screaming on the high efficiency speakers
2 watts is unbearably loud
If you like the sound, recap the amp and love it.
Hard to beat at any price for 100 watts in sound quality
Yamaha MX-600 or 630
Stereo Power Amplifier (1987-89)
Specifications
Power output: 135 watts per channel into 8Ω (stereo)
Frequency response: 20Hz to 20kHz
Total harmonic distortion: 0.003%
Damping factor: 70
Input sensitivity: 1.14V
Signal to noise ratio: 123dB
Speaker load impedance: 4Ω to 16Ω
Dimensions: 435 x 170 x 425mm
Weight: 13kg
Year: 1988
https://www.hifiengine.com/manual_library/yamaha/mx-600.shtml
Pre Amp Emotiva USP $250-350
XSP-1
Differential Reference Preamp for MC & MM cartridges, $1,249.00 Gen2 new, $800 Gen1 used
Audio Specifications
Balanced Input to Balanced Output:
S/N (signal-to-noise ratio, A-weighted, ref +6 dBV): > 117 dB.
Frequency response: 20 Hz to 20 kHz +/- 0.02 dB.
THD + N (harmonic distortion plus noise, @ 1 kHz): < 0.0004%.
IMD (intermodulation distortion, SMPTE method, 60 Hz/7 kHz): < 0.001%.
Crosstalk (measured at +6 dBF, 10 kHz): < 100 dB.Unbalanced Input to Unbalanced Output:
S/N (signal-to-noise ratio, A-weighted, ref +6 dBV): > 113 dB.
Frequency response: 20 Hz to 20 kHz +/- 0.015 dB.
THD + N (harmonic distortion plus noise, @ 1 kHz): < 0.0006%.
IMD (intermodulation distortion, SMPTE method, 60 Hz/7 kHz): < 0.001%.
Crosstalk (measured at +6 dBF, 10 kHz): < 102 dB.Balanced Input to Unbalanced Output:
S/N (signal-to-noise ratio, A-weighted, ref +6 dBV): > 114 dB.
Frequency response: 20 Hz to 20 kHz +/- 0.015 dB.
THD + N (harmonic distortion plus noise, @ 1 kHz): < 0.0005%.
IMD (intermodulation distortion, SMPTE method, 60 Hz/7 kHz): < 0.0015%.
Crosstalk (measured at +6 dBF, 10 kHz): < 105 dB.Unbalanced Input to Balanced Output:
S/N (signal-to-noise ratio, A-weighted, ref +6 dBV): > 115 dB.
Frequency response: 20 Hz to 20 kHz +/- 0.017 dB.
THD + N (harmonic distortion plus noise, @ 1 kHz): < 0.0003%.
IMD (intermodulation distortion, SMPTE method, 60 Hz/7 kHz): < 0.007%.
Crosstalk (measured at +6 dBF, 10 kHz): < 100 dB.Phono (Moving Coil; phono in to balanced out):
Gain (1 kHz, Volume at 0): approximately 60 dB.
Input impedance (user selectable): 47 ohms, 100 ohms, 470 ohms, 1k ohm.
S/N (signal-to-noise ratio, A-weighted, ref 1.0 mV in): > 79 dB.
Frequency response (ref standard RIAA curve): 20 Hz to 20 kHz +/- 0.35 dB.
THD (total harmonic distortion, ref 1.0 mV): < 0.008%.
IMD (intermodulation distortion, SMPTE method: < 0.15 %.
Crosstalk: < 65 dB.Phono (Moving Magnet; phono in to balanced out):
Gain (1 kHz, Volume at 0): approximately 40 dB.
Input impedance: 47k Ohms.
S/N (signal-to-noise ratio, A-weighted, ref 10.0 mV in, A-weighted): > 96 dB.
Frequency response (ref standard RIAA curve): 20 Hz to 20 kHz +/- 0.3 .dB.
THD (total harmonic distortion, ref 10 mV): < 0.001%.
IMD (intermodulation distortion, SMPTE method: < 0.05%.
Crosstalk: < 80 dB.My hand starts shaking when I roll over the order button every time.....
https://emotiva.com/products/xsp-1
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I'm noodling around in here and my wife is watching TV it is a different matter. The den opens onto the living room, taking a separate system with speakers off the table. Too close together. Therefore my option is headphones.
I'm hoping this is in the right section.
I could use some advise regarding small headphone amps (ideally with a DAC), and recommendations on how to best rip albums from my CD collection. I have Windows 10 (which I loath).
Lots of portable solutions that probably sound great
the question is how to get high bit rate content into them.
I rip everything lossless onto my PC
then copy onto a Network Hard Disk connected to my router
Any device with router access can play any content this way.
I use a 10 year old lap top for accessing the content
and Media Monkey file system as the viewer and player
The laptop is connected to my DAC, then into my stereo.
If you copy the above.....
You can get a 14in HP Ram disk pc at costco today for $280, last day
they had some in my local store, still waiting for my lap top to die....
then use any DAC with a good headphone amp to drive your headphones.
https://www.costco.com/hp-14"-laptop---10th-gen-intel-core-i3---1080p.product.100511171.html
If you want to be in the same room with the wife and kids
I would snag a THX rated used Pioneer Elite Receiver for $200 or less
I would have to check the block diagram, but I believe when the headphones
are plugged in the speaker circuit is diverted to the headphone
In this way you get a THX AB Amp with DAC for $200
That you can also throw a pair of speakers on that sounds great.
VSX 09TX rosewood sides are missing, offer 100
https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Elite+Receivers/VSX-09TX
If wife is making noise, recommend closed back cans
I prefer sling vs clamps which give me a headache
Clamps everyone loves the 50s
Audio Technica 700s has some good over the ears for approx $100
Looks like the 700s are history, so it's the 900s $200
ATH-A990z Art Monitor® Closed-Back Dynamic Headphones
Driver Diameter 53 mm Frequency Response 5 – 42,000 Hz Maximum Input Power 2,000 mW Sensitivity 100 dB/mW Impedance 44 ohms Weight 335 g Grado has a great 15ft speaker cable for $46, I have one
https://www.4ourears.net/Grado_headphone_extension_cable_p/4e-excab.htm
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My family has had some duals for 40 years, very good products, the one I am using sounds and works great, did require a tune up at a shop to clean the internal mechanicals and lube the parts, alignment etc....
I would take it to a shop that is familiar with Duals and let us know what the cartridge is before making any decision to replace it.
Duals are lots of models, belt and direct, manual, semi and full auto
Model number and pics ??
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On 10/28/2019 at 1:56 PM, Bacek said:
Additionally to normal crossover points I did full time delay alignment for all drivers.
On 10/28/2019 at 1:56 PM, Bacek said:I often wonder how audible the time alignment is, the weak spot of the LaScalas on paper.
I should probably test the resistance on my k-77 tweeters to see if they are in spec.
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On 11/4/2019 at 1:47 AM, glens said:
Production lot issues, most definitely. I doubt the function is impaired.
This
and yes contact the mfg.....
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Are all of the units plugged into the same power strip or surge protector ?
Is the tuner on top of another piece of gear ?
How close is the antennae to anything else ?
Get some long RCA cables and try moving the tuner around with the ears on it.
Try moving the power cord around, the wires wear and break and cause hum and other noise, better to try it on cheapo speakers at low volume, pick up a pair at goodwill or craigslist if you don't have some.
Try running the tuner into a different system on a table top with your cheapo test speakers and see what happens. If you still have humm the problem is the tuner.
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Second look at Denon, yamaha, pioneer elite etc.
10% Thd seems a bit high to me. 1%
AMPLIFIER FEATURES
160 W/Ch (6 Ω, 1 kHz, 1% THD, 1 Channel Driven, IEC); 175 W/Ch (6 Ω, 1 kHz, 10% THD, 1 Channel Driven, JEITA)
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You might want to look at active crossovers
and then run the outputs to as many amplifiers as you need.
Stereo to 3 way crossovers is common.
I don't know if you can make one of these work....
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=37887
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On 11/6/2019 at 11:53 AM, tigerwoodKhorns said:
Title says it all. How to hang a Heresy size speaker on a wall?? I have a pair of JBls that are about the same size and want to hang high on a wall. Hard to find a decent mount.
Why not just get a pair of the black pro Heresy looking speakers that have the slant backs and two drivers, they use in theaters ?
If you have to mount the Heresy, I would double the bottom with a piece of plywood and run nuts and bolts through the plate and the bottom of the heresy with some large washers on the inside.
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Usually run between $1200 and 2500 depending.......
I have seen clean ones for 1200
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Look for used LaScala 1s, can be had for as little as $1200 excellent, 1980s
Used K-horns $2500 excellent 1980-1990
A pair Forte 2s, the best sleeper that I have heard for $500 used excellent
Forte 3s may be better, but I haven't heard them. $5000
Pair of used Heresy's 1 or 2 for $300-600
New Heresy 3s for $2000
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Making a boat into an airplane is always a tough one.
Fortes, re-veneer to something you like, maybe something exotic as keepers.
You already recapped the crossovers, if the surrounds are good, good to go
There may be a direct replacement tweeter that is better.
Bring the mids up to ear level always a good idea.
EV Driver might work for a bi-amp two-way active-crossover with EQ...... CornScala
EV specs an EQ module on the cut sheet, 500-17Khz achievable
15in Crites woofer
Picking the right horns may take a few tries
Crites may be able to recommend which one he sells that would most likely sound good
and deliver 500-17khz
Depending on your wood shop, you might want to make a practice box with cheaper plywood
and experiment with different horn configs, changing out the motor boards
this would also allow you do do things like run a 2x4 cross brace nailed or screwed from the outside etc
Once you have your horn and motor board, you could throw down for the mdf or birch etc
stiffener with lots of cut outs, lightening holes etc
If you don't already have amps, look at picking up 2x Yamaha MX-600s and recapping them.
New class Ds, a lot of people like the totl Crowns
https://www.electrovoice.com/binary/DH1A DH1A-16 EDS.pdf
Example build and parts list cornscala
ballpark total cost, shipping, taxes, odds and ends but excluding rosewood veneer about $1,500 for the pair
Crites made some custom cross overs for him AKs he also purchased may be customs
Great photos, but you have to go to the site.....
http://www3.telus.net/public/rtg/CornScala
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Damping may be an issue
same for slew rate
Do you have a budget and any space requirements ?
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SX-1250 AM/FM receiver provides a resounding yes to each of these questions - and then some.
No other Pioneer receiver provides such incomparable FM performance and sensitivity and then combines it with mammoth continuous power output of 160W per channel, min RMS at 8 Ohms, from 20 Hertz to 20,000 Hertz, with no more than 0.1% total harmonic distortion.
Specifications
Tuning range: FM, MW
Power output: 160 watts per channel into 8Ω (stereo)
Frequency response: 10Hz to 50kHz
Total harmonic distortion: 0.1%
Damping factor: 30
Input sensitivity: 6.5mV (mic), 2.5mV (MM), 150mV (DIN), 150mV (line)
Signal to noise ratio: 75dB (MM), 90dB (line)
Output: 150mV (line), 30mV (DIN), 1V (Pre out)
Speaker load impedance: 4Ω (minimum)
Dimensions: 556 x 186.5 x 464.5mm
Weight: 29.2kg
Year: 1976
https://www.hifiengine.com/manual_library/pioneer/sx-1250.shtml
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A 50W - 70W amp should provide all of the power you need.
I would also consider things like the numbers and kinds of inputs
MM MC phono inputs
Tape in and out if you want to add an EQ later, usually better than the basic tone controls
If you are not a receiver collector
I would consider one of the many excellent integrated amps
Some great ones can be had ridiculously cheap on e-bay
Pioneer made lots of them in the same era as the receivers
I would also look at the Yamaha integrates from the 1980s
the ones with the MM MC phono inputs
I picked up a Yamaha A-1000 for $50 in excellent condition
had to drive 3 hours to get it, but worth the trip, runs Class A for the first 10 watts.
also doubles as a space heater in the winter. A-1000, A-1020, A-700, A-720
https://www.hifiengine.com/manual_library/pioneer.shtml?category=integrated-amplifier
https://www.hifiengine.com/manual_library/yamaha/a-1000.shtml
You can add an outboard Sangeon tuner for $160 that is excellent and new
And if you amp is more than 20 years old it should be recapped
The only thing standing between your amp and blown speakers is two capacitors.
Most of your listening will be well below .5 watts
2 watts is screaming
On my LaScalas I typically listen at 1/200th of a watt to 1/50th
Damping should exceed 20
SN 90 or greater, some of mine are rated greater than 120db
Class B McIntosh, Class AB is most of the receivers, Can't think of a Class A receiver
THD should be less than 1%, some of mine are rated at .003
Slew rate on the older gear, can't think of the number
Freq rating, number like 20-50khz or better, although many only provide 20-20 even though they go much higher
If you listen to radio, I would look at the stats on the tuner vs how far away your stations are etc....FMTuners
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Every design has trade offs....
Heresy's, Cornwall and probably Forte have bass and mid horn alignment, most of what we hear, with grey hair even more so. Voice spans bass and mid horn, so crossover implementation is even more critical.
On my Heresy 1s, crites cross overs, female vocal is crystal clear.....
Should Heresy 5 be a two way crossover and two drivers rolling off at 17Khz?
Do the new tweeters sound any better than the original ones on the Heresy I ?
or should they ditch it for the Beyma,
I think that is the one everyone is in love with at the cost of some efficiency ?
LaScala has the 400Hz horn which reproduces most of the mids and most or all of the voice, especially female vocal.
Mid horn is approx 24 in deep, bass horn is approx 36 in deep.... so no alignment.
If the vocal and bass guitar don't perfectly align......does it matter ? one of the imponderables of the universe..
The tweeters don't align on any of the above,
which goes back to the argument of 2-Way crossovers and rolling off around 17Khz
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I think this runs on a lap top
you would need a mic, which parts express also sells.
They offer a mic you can run into a smart phone, which streams to the lap top.
This should allow you to sweep the frequencies on your system.
Typically you set up the mic where your ears usually sit,
then run a sweep. Should be plenty of videos on you tube
I run something different.... the other guys on here can probably
give you some suggestions on sweeping the systems with this or another product.
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So many new TT on the market,
I would start there unless someone gives you a good old one and you pay to have it serviced.
Decisions:
My preference is semi auto pickup at end, hinged cover, MM cart, direct drive on my Dual is quiet.