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The HD 500 is design for small to medium size room. Mines sounded ok in a 19X20 room but I was always missing the impact that a larger HT would provide. You may need a second sub or consider upgrading everything if possible. First try setting the sub on a small tabe at your main listening area, then walk around the room and see where the sub sounds best. That will be the ideal location for the sub. You can also corner load the sub to get a little more out of it. Using a Y connector on the R/L sub input may net you and extra couple of db. Good Luck!
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I hear ya loud and clear[Y]
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The RB 81 is a nice speaker and it is unusal for someone to say it lacks bass. Having and avr with the sub outlet is always a good option, if it can be returned. This way the system has a little room to grow. Everytime I brought what I thought I needed, I later on wished it had additional options. Good luck!
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If you are looking for more bass, the Heritage line/KLF series is a nice way to go. The 82's are a truely nice speaker also, but will it deliver the type of bass you want? I feel the 8in woofer is the smallest size for systems without a sub. I think an avr with a sub is always a nice option to have. There are small subs that can fit any room to make a system much better. The Heritage line have large woofers compared to most of the other series. This is why they are able to get good performace without a sub. The RF 7's and 83's are also more of a stand alone speaker but have a larger price tage and footprint.
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Unfortunate that you can't find the matching WS 24's due to the finish. Your avr should provide equalization to make the 42's or 52's sound good with the rest of your system. You can use all bookself speakers with a nice sub or two to finish off the system with for a great HT. The subs would fill in the extra bass that you may want for more impact. Or, get the WF 35's to compliment the front stage for a slightly more robust system. I like all matching speakers and would be reluctant to break the system up, that is just me.[:S]
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For that price dual Epik Empires and you get to keep a dollar.
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That APC looks nice and should do the job. 11 outlets-should take care of everything.
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Thanks[Y]
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People keep talking about the monkey eating the fruit? [H][Y] That avatar is gaining popularity!
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Many of the Klipsch speakers made the list which was not all inclusive, such as theTHX speakers, CF 3, KLF 20, RB 81 and others. Most HT's can get to -15, but fall short going beyond that point. Even if the speaker can take more, the power side of the equation is not there. The guy that started that post said what we preceive as to loud, may actually be distortion or some of the sound is just clipped off. This made me think, what's the big deal, but seeing the data, some things can be missed in a lot of HT's, The good part is most of us are getting 95+% and what we don't know will not hurt us, lol.
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HT is one of the most demanding applications for speakers to deliver their bang for the bucks. Klipsch Jub can hit 105db at 12 ft. with only 7watts of power. In contrast the The KL 650-THX and RB 81 need 84 and 168 watts repsectively to reach 105db at 12ft. We are always talking about this speaker or that amp/avr and is it right for my setup. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1387083, this is a nice thread on the avs forum on, List of Reference Level, High Sensitivity & SPL, Low Distortion
Speakers. It beg the question, what is the big deal? I often wondered what kind of theater experience I was getting compared to what the movie makers intended. For example, if I need a 105 db peak in a movie can I really get it? Or that very loud and really meam distortion is at play or will something be played at 85db due to my amp/speaker match. I am happy with what I have, but this thread made me look at things in a different light. This thread makes me look at the amplification side of my system and the sensitivity of my speakers in a new light. Some good objective data is always helpful in bring things into focus. Maybe these old guys with the Heritage stuff know something that I don't,[] -
The sub you have is a pretty nice one, good specs. Look at at least some 15in subs or larger or you may not feel that you have made an upgrade. What are you looking to spend? One thing, hold on to the one you have and use dual subs. Are you looking for more LF extension for movies or more bang in the 30-50Hz range, or a more musical type sub?
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A can of worms eh. Time to go fishing for acronyms and terms that can't be measured by science.[]
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A can of worms eh. Time to go fishing for acronyms and terms that can't be measured by science.[]
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Everytime I check the web page it at $499.00. Is their a promo code or coupon?
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My HT is in the family room and I designed it to sound nice where ever you sit. So, I did not stick to the rules for a sweet spot. The surrounds are slightly behind the main listening spot up high and the surround back is cover by VF 35 towers on the floor, and I let autocalibration takecare of the adjustments. It is a trial and error thing due to room interaction. I think without a dedicated theater room, some slight compromise is needed.
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I have my VS 14's near the ceiling and can hear them very well as surround speakers. I perfer them high to space out the sound effect more. They are also heard in multi-channel music as well. This is the exact opposite of my first experience with Front Height speakers which I never heard. I even stood on a chair once to see if they were working, lol. I think it all depends on the room and location of the other speakers. I changed Front Height speakers and location and now I hear them all the time. DPIIz is my most used setting for tv and dvd. BD are played in their native format.Gotcha. My doors never get opened since we use the other door around the corner. I think any angle would be better than no angle. With that said, in the above photos, you can see a pair of RB-35's mounted on the back wall for 7.2 system. They didn't last long there. They were absolutely pointless up that high. Hardly ever heard them at all and they were angled down 10 degrees. My ceiling is 10' so they were roughly 8' off the ground.
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[:#] Now that's funny.
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Replace the woofer if it is only $42. That's a great looking speaker and I know you want it to look good!
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Very nice article on what is actually achieved with bi-amping. Passive x-o waste a lot energy and decrease the overall headroom in a system. The voltage demands were explained very well and also lend support on why people used power amps in comparison to some avr's. Bi-wiring has a very small benefit compared to bi-amping. The theorectical benefits of bi-wiring may not reach the auditory threshold to be appreciated. Bi-amping takes a little skill to do correctly and should be given some thought befor venturing into that next level of audio Nirvana. It is interesting how much money people will spend on speakers and skimp on the power part of the equation. I remeber reading, spend 1/3 of the budget on the power side of the system. Thanks Chris!
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The LFE or .1 channel is a production channel for sound engineers to put the low frequency sounds in. The hpf only let's frequencies above the setting pass to the tweeter and the lpf only let's frequencies blow that setting pass to the woofer. If speaker are set to small the bass limited speakers will have their low frequencies sent to the sub. If some of the speakers are set to large, they will receive the full range of frequencies and the redirected bass along with the LFE. Bass management is done through the avr when all speakers are set to small. To get all the LFE, the sub should have the x-o all the way up or turn it off. The lpf and hpf are not brick walls and have a slop on frequency decay that leaks through. The x-o in the avr should be set 10 db higher than the weakest speakers frequency response.
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I know how you feel: I seen a you tube video on fixing that dent with tape. I will see if I can find it. Others may beat me to the quick fix. No need for a new driver. Cheer up, just keep the grill on(joking).[]
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Nice setup, the Pioneer SC 57 is a nice way to run your system. All I can say is enjoy and thank you for your service.
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Cask05, that is consistent with what I have read and never tried it up to now, lol. Maybe it is placebo effect? I am lost for words on why DLPXII music and the system sounding better with the MCACC on compared to before. For now I am just going to leave since I am lazy today. That was a great post on the benefit of bi-amping. Thanks!
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Very sweet intro into separates, make me want a B&K!