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1 hour ago, Weber said:
Have you had / have room for the Chorus II?
Yes, but I decided that I'm not a Heritage guy. Someday I still want to try LaScalas or K-horns though. Try the whole "fully horn-loaded" thing.
I like the way the materials from the Ref and Palladiums sound, and I absolutely just love designs of the Legend and Epic series.
Now that I've owned the P17b's, I feel like I've tried all the different series and it's time to hunt down my overall favorites.
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1 hour ago, Scrappydue said:
Where are you at?
SE Denver area
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3 hours ago, oldtimer said:
It should depend on your needs which is best, or are you a flipper?
There's not a whole lot if room for profit margins on any of those. I sold my CF-3s for exactly $550 and I wouldn't count on much more than $200-$250 for a pair of Quartets. Not in Denver anyway.
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12 minutes ago, A1UC said:
Okay which one of you emailed me to call you and offered me 3500 for the pair , hey it was a good laugh anyways
LOL, that's a good one.
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I'd take one pair of CF-3's over three pairs of Quartets any day.
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Might as well just be named BuyersVictims
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5 hours ago, A1UC said:
I'd take the sound of the Heresy's over the Palladiums any day for music , The Heresy's are my first heritage speaker and I'm really surprised
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I'm the opposite. I've owned two pair of Heresy II, one pair Quartet, and two pair of Forte II.
My little Palladiums are by far the best I've ever owned. Main things that impress and surprise me every day are the realism of voices and the amazing level of subtle details that come through.
I agree that they're a bit "less exciting", but the level of refinement is off the charts.
The only model I've owned that comes close to delivering the same realism in voices was my KLF-20's.
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On 9/4/2016 at 8:03 PM, Scrappydue said:
The palladiums should eat the Cornwalls up on sound quality. The Cornwalls have a punchier bass but p-37's are GREAT speakers. You should go for the full setup. The center and surrounds are actually more impressive than the towers.
Do you have any experience with P17s or the larger towers?
Just wondering if the Palladium voicing is the same across the board, aside from the obvious size difference.
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Yes. The RP center would match well and is FAR superior to the "official" match to your speakers, the RC-35
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Go for the RF-35 or RF-25. Both are excellent models and the RF-25 can often be found for barely $200.
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Wow, asking(calculating...) 91% of retail price??
I guess I'll be posting my P17s for(calculating...) $3,667!
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My P-17b's are by far the best Klipsch speakers I've ever heard or owned, but I think I want to trade back "down" to a big model. I don't like dealing with subwoofers
Looking for these models near CO in order of pref:
- RF-83
- KLF-30
- CF-4
- KLF-20
- CF-3
Willing to pay up to $1200 for RF-83 in excellent condition, about $900 for KLFs or the CF-4s, about $600 for KLF-20s or CF-3s.
I don't mind driving a few hours to get them.
I'd like to secure a deal for one of these models before attempting to sell the P17's. Or work out a trade if somebody is interested in the Palladiums.
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Haha, I had no idea
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Found it
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I think the larger horn makes a bigger difference than you'd think.
Try comparing RF-35 to the RF-15, or RF-82 vs RF-52.
These models are all roughly in the same league, but crossing over high at around 80hz to minimize the difference in woofer size, and you hear a HUGE difference between the RF-35's 6.5" horn and the RF-15's 5" horn. This is despite the drivers and xovers being roughly the same quality.
This is why I believe that the old RF-25 and RF-62 were the sweet spot of performance. They had the smaller 6.5" woofers, but the same horn as the higher up RF-35 and RF-82. Aside from shallower bass, they sounded nearly identical.
I have no doubt that the larger horn on the RF-5 is most of the reason for improved sound quality and the reason why so many people love the Epic CF-4.
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The power handling alone leads me to believe they are more resistant, but I still feel like they are super lightweight and fragile.
A quick Google images search shows two guys setting up new P39's in a hardwood living room and they managed to dent the lower woofer on one of the towers.
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I had Forte II and original RF-7 at the same time.
Super close call, but my ears decided the edge went to the RF-7s.
I think if it were Forte I vs RF-7ii, the RF-7ii would probably win(for me) by a sizeable margin.
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On 9/8/2016 at 8:17 AM, deol33 said:
No way to find forte II that the seller ship internationally.....
Frustrating as I am more and more convinced that these speakers will fit with my needs
I saw several for sale last few months and the time I decide myself to go for it, they all disappear...
Be patient.
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I don't think they're available from Klipsch anymore and Hi Fi Heaven sells them for $3200/pr.
Though I do agree that they're actually worth about $1500 - 1600/pr used.
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Wow! What a find!
Yes, that receiver has plenty of power for those speakers.
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4 hours ago, deol33 said:
Many thanks for sharing your experiences,
I am still interesting to know especially for the low frequencies if it start at 36hz or 50hz ,
does it make such a big difference,as these are figures but it doesn't tells you what you could feel,
a little bit like for computer processor if I choose a 3.6ghz or a 3.8ghz does it makes such a difference,
for a computer not so much, or hard to see it, so for the bass power sound would it look like the same,
different but hard to ear / feel it or really not the same ?
BTW I am currently following a pair of Forte I ...
It depends on the type of music you listen to. If it's mostly classic rock and jazz, you won't notice any problem with bass that goes down to 50hz.
If you listen to a lot of Electronica, Pop, or Hip-Hop, then you will want deep bass that gets closer to 30hz.
A pair of Forte would be great, better than either Quartet or Heresy. Also, the KLF-20 is the most versatile speaker I've ever owned. It gives you the excellent 3-way midrange for rock and jazz, but also the tight, fast, and deep bass for modern electronic music.
I think the only models that would cover a wide range of classic and modern music as well as the KLF would be the RF-7 and the Palladium towers.
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Have you considered a pair of Heresy?
I did not like the Quartet very much. The cabinets are very noisy and boxy sounding. Also, dynamic range seems lacking and sounds compressed compared to Heresy or Forte.
Heresy sounds cleaner and more transparent. Just my opinion though.
Edit: I just read your music preferences. Heresy would sound excellent with classic rock, jazz, acoustic, but not with electronica.
I don't think any of the Heritage models(Heresy, Quartet, Forte) sound very good with electronica.
So if deeper bass and modern electronica/pop is important to you, I would recommend a Reference model like RF-35 or RF-82.
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New pair of Merlot P-17B's. Need to take some nicer pics of them.
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WTB: RF-83 or KLF-30 or CF-4
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Maybe I should add them. I just want a huge pair of mammoth Klipsch, but I see that the 63's have the specs of a very large model. Does it seem like they actually reach down to 30hz?