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3 hours ago, Crankysoldermeister said:
Horn loading botches up everything, that’s why you have vent the horn. 😬
Stupid horn…..
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2 hours ago, jimjimbo said:
Good luck getting an answer on that.....probably a current employee, or a former employee, or a relative of an employee with access to the Klipsch parts database. There's something fishy here.
You mean like bass fishy? 🤓
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2 hours ago, babadono said:
Are you @Chief bonehead 's alter ego? I mean how do you know that?
I would like to know myself. The k31 was used for quite awhile. Then we had to switch suppliers and it was called the k282. Same spec though.
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45 minutes ago, pbphoto said:
It appears like somebody in the marketing department decided to call the latest La Scala "AL5" even though the LS2 had been using the AL5 crossover for 15+ years?
Not true.
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7 hours ago, Crankysoldermeister said:
The AL-4 was used in the original La Scala build for short time. When they went to the MDF build, they went to the AL-5. I mean, I was in Indy when they introduced it, and Mark Kaufman talked about how they had to mod the network -- which I thought he called the AL-5.
So, did they make a silent change in the AL-5 network when they went to the Celestion tweeter, and just continued to call it the AL-5 with a revision number on the board?
Well…..mark was wrong. Al5 belongs to the new la scala because of the celestion tweeter. The AK6 belongs to the new khorn because of the new celestion tweeter.
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On 7/13/2022 at 9:53 AM, Crankysoldermeister said:
Read Bob's comments carefully.
Both the AL-4 and AK-4 had resistors in the low pass tweaked when they went to two piece MDF build of the LaScala (LaScala II), and the sealed back Klipschorn. Those networks became AL-5 and AK-5.
Bob can call them whatever but the al5 in the current la scala and AK6 in the current khorn are current. I also got confused myself so I intentionally wanted the updated speakers to carry the network name. La scala al5. Klipschorn ak6
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On 7/8/2022 at 10:42 AM, Schu said:
is that another phase plug...
No. It’s adaptor.
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On 7/8/2022 at 10:08 AM, Islander said:
I don’t think the AL5 comes with a Celestion tweeter. It may no longer be a K-77, but the Celestion K-693 tweeter is part of the Heritage Jubilee, not the La Scala AL5.
Yes it does. The k771
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9 hours ago, ClaudeJ1 said:
You did in 2007. What happened with your attitude since then? Or maybe you're just having some fun with us Klipsch idiots?
Well. At least two idiots….lol!
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8 hours ago, ClaudeJ1 said:
Sez they guy who basically put a Cornwall inside of a wider horn, effectively agreeing with my "too little air" comment. But yeah, I tried wrong and learned something about horns in the process. I'd say not a bad effort for an amateur. Plus I got a grand for 2 days work, so not bad.
Yep. It was that basic. Talk about attitude change. Time to get a grip bro.
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8 hours ago, ClaudeJ1 said:
Here's a curve from 2007. Clearly shows 60 Hz. rolloff on a now obsolete product.
That’s the chamber roll off….
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2 hours ago, Crankysoldermeister said:
The Golden Jubilee. Were these the ones Valerie had built from the original plans? You realize that even a small change to the design could have netted some improvement.
Yea. But that won’t stop Claude from bellowing.
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3 hours ago, ClaudeJ1 said:
You did not state all the conditions I spoke of. In the right room with solid corners you could hit 40 Hz., but not flat. I don't recall how many db down it was, but what's the point of a CURVELESS discussion, that Jube is obsolete anyhow.
So you guys who continue to argue this SHOW ME THE FRIKKIN" CURVES. Or at least give me better info.
I would show my curves……but I don’t want to. Ha ha.
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10 hours ago, ClaudeJ1 said:
I guess it does hold true. However, the real Klipscheads like you DO know the difference, which is important.
I guess I’m not a klipsch head. But for sure a bonehead.
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13 hours ago, ClaudeJ1 said:
Bullshit. It needed more back chamber air volume to work. I'm not putting words into Roy's mouth. You could have fine tuned to your hearts content. I tried that, with 3 different passive radiators and it only "wiggled the curve" about 1/2 db at most and not necessarily in a positive way. The original Jubilee was a very good short horn that only expanded in one plane (like a LaScala). It behaved like a LaScala out of corners and more like a lower distortion Khorn in Corners by way of extending the effective horn length. Roy had talked about adding a "V" in front to bring the 2 mouths closer together and adding length. Not sure if he ever did though. Physics is Physics regardless.
Maybe you tried wrong…..
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13 hours ago, ClaudeJ1 said:
Not wrong either. Go measure it out of corner, or with the microphone at the mouth. It rolls off at about 60, unless it's in a corner to boost below that by making the horn, effectively, longer than 5.5 feet (same as my Quarter Pie, but with more folds). Coupled with PEQ's in a small room, in a Corner, it will play down to 30 and move the flesh on your calves. Double 12" drivers is the Sd or an 18" driver, so you can PEQ down lower than a Khorn without appreciable distortion. Don't argue with me unless you have curves, otherwise, it's just another "emotional test" OPINION and not valid.
Besides, my original comment was about the 3 different passive radiators I tried in a one of a kind version of that Jubilee horn that I built and tested. I was trying to get a resonance based boost below 50 Hz. but there simply was not enough air volume in that too small of a chamber. Basically I could NOT improve on the original design with my modification. And I had a Golden Jubilee to measure as a control for the experiments, which, BTW, was stuffed with FOAM in the back chamber.
My comments are VALIDATED by the fact that Roy has used a HUGE Air Volume inside the New Jubilee "75" in order to get subwoofer-like performance out of it.
Maybe I will argue with you……
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1 hour ago, Crankysoldermeister said:
One problem is that this was always the mods section and you don't like mods, well, except for the ones from the tweeter guy.
Even when I try to play by the rules I get crap.
You know what deano….ok. Just keep it civil and no personal stuff. Please accept my apologies, my friend.
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14 minutes ago, Racer X said:
Does not take much to poke the bear around here.
Actually. I’m not a bear. I’m a bonehead.
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1 hour ago, Crankysoldermeister said:
I'm not the one making the wild claims. Randy can call it "the right part", not "the highest quality capacitor". Please read what I said, which was ...
"JEM most closely approximates those used in the original circuit."
What's the problem?
Wild claims? I seen you make some of those. Don’t worry about it. Does highest quality equate with significant increase in cost? Not going to argue with you about that.
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1 hour ago, Crankysoldermeister said:
My answer to his question about the electrolytic was ...
'"I am going to guess that the answer is going to be that since Klipsch approved it, it's a "Klipsch approved design."'
Again, what's the problem?
Misread that. Sorry.
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42 minutes ago, Crankysoldermeister said:
One problem is that this was always the mods section and you don't like mods, well, except for the ones from the tweeter guy.
Even when I try to play by the rules I get crap.
You make a lot of assumptions. You want to help then stick to that. You peanut gallery commentary doesn’t help. And guess what? I’m sick of dealing with crap as well.
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27 minutes ago, Crankysoldermeister said:
I didn't ask you to apologize, I asked you to consider the possibility that you might be doing more harm than good.He’s not.
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1 minute ago, Crankysoldermeister said:
My answer to his question about the electrolytic was ...
'"I am going to guess that the answer is going to be that since Klipsch approved it, it's a "Klipsch approved design."'
Again, what the problem?
You know what the problem is…..
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On 7/3/2022 at 10:59 AM, Crankysoldermeister said:
I think it would be more accurate to say that the capacitors from JEM most closely approximate those used in the the original circuit. They certainly aren’t “the highest quality capacitor”. They aren’t even the highest quality polyester.
We just had an AK-2 to AK-3 conversion thread. We are still waiting on that person to report results.
Define “reputable”?
Jubilee thd @ 115db/1 meter ?
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20 db over average? Have you ever looked at a typical song as a wave file?
and yes believe it or not (doesn’t matter to me) these system can do a 200-300 seat cinema.