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If your interested in Atmos & you can swing the budget... I'd say go for it. I've lived with Atmos for over a year now & really kicked things up over 3 months ago with 2 pairs of Atmos RP-140SA's. The change was dramatic, enough so that I wouldn't go back to a non-Atmos HT. If the 280FA's (with integrated Atmos elevation speaker) are not an option, grab the regular 280F's from your original inquiry. With the 280F's you can add RP-140SA's or in-ceiling options later. The 140SA's deliver Atmos content & provide a great HT experience. Another option (to the 280F's) would be looking for a pair of RF-7's or RF-7-ll's on the secondary market. Those are often available for less than a pair of 280F's. Good luck.

Not sure about a DIY project... but, I would consider HDDIFY (Have Derrick do it for you). ============= What are your thoughts on downward -firing subs? Any thing funky to consider or compensate for? Or omni-directional is still omni-directional?

No need to get defensive my friend. Just was curious. Not defensive. Not offended. I did include an (lol) because I found your question amusing. Odd, but amusing.

I did post some info recently on Milla Jovovich (the upcoming Atmos release of The Fifth Element). Wouldn't mind working for her. Full disclosure in advance of course. Hell... I'd tell everyboidy. (lol)

Gee, never crossed my mind... that posting info about Klipsch, on a Klipsch forum would unsettle inquiring minds. Who knew?

If I'm posting info on CEDIA & Klipsch... which pictures & links should I post? Comic-Con & Apple?? (lol) The caption I posted (& you quoted) was for the Commercial Distributed Series. The posted picture includes Commercial Distribute Speakers: ** CA-800T ** CA-800 TSW ** CP-6 The link I provided goes to the Commercial Distributed Series. ================= No, I do not work for Klipsch. In the past I've also posted photos & links for PSA, SVS, Nissan & even NASA. I do not work for either of them either. Didn't realize disclaimers & disclosures were required for posting info on the hobby.

A few highlights from last weeks 2015 CEDIA event: PRO THX ULTRA2 SERIES: http://www.klipsch.com/architectural-thx-speakers PRO SERIES: 4000 & 6000 http://www.klipsch.com/professional-series CINEMA SERIES: KPT-JUBILEE-535 http://www.klipsch.com/cinema KLIPSCH COMMERCIAL DISTRIBUTED SERIES: http://www.klipsch.com/distributed-audio ATMOS DEMO: Reference Premiere / RP-280FA / RP-450CA / RP-140SA http://www.klipsch.com/dolby-atmos-speakers REFERENCE PREMIERE HD WIRELESS (January 2016) REFERENCE R-15PM: POWERED MONITORS (January 2016)

Following the (one-day-only) 4K & Atmos theatrical release of: Roger Waters The Wall... we now have the date for the Blu-ray release: December 1st. I've seen different reports on specs, so at the moment, not 100% if the Blu-ray is also 4K & Atmos... but rather silly if it was not. By all accounts the theatrical release was excellent, it should sound equally great on Blu-ray with Atmos. December 1st is not far off, really looking forward to bringing it home.

Depend on your state & what laws your local representatives have passed. Right now its applies to:

No... pics above are from Klipsch

This doesn't technically belong on this thread... but just as good as any other place. Mad Max Fury Road recreated in classic 8-bit gaming platform. This is awesome. Spoiler alert in case you've not yet seen the movie.

Anyone in Texas attending CEDIA this week? Klipsch is having the 4000 & 6000 Pro Series at the booth. Along with: Pro Series THX U2, Cinema Series, RP-280FA

Building a system over time, adding elements when budget allows makes perfect sense, especially since the OP mentioned interest in Atmos & the RP-140SA's.

No.... its an acronym like NRA. (just pronounce the letters, not pronounced as a "word"). Early on Jay L used the term DAES (which is perfect description)... but early on most would not know what DAES actual is. Especially when most people today don't even know what Atmos is. What adds to the confusion, is that most will consider a in-ceiling speaker an Atmos speaker. But it is not. There is no such thing as an Atmos in-ceiling speaker. An wide dispersion in-ceiling speaker is already perfectly in spec with Atmos & can deliver Atmos content.... but it is & always will be a in-ceiling speaker. Description for in-ceiling speakers (at least during setup) are based on placement: Top Front, Top Middle, Top Rear. The only thing that makes an Atmos speaker an "Atmos speaker"... is that it is an upward firing speaker (whether integrated within a tower, or as an ad-on module). Both of those options are considered DAES.

Here's a few pics of my Front & Rear RP-140SA's:

Ceiling speakers... are ceiling speakers (there is no such animal as an Atmos Ceiling Speaker). By their nature, Ceiling Speakers already recreate audio from the height plane above. So, any ceiling speaker that offers wide dispersion capability (or adjustable angle) meets with Atmos spec. The DAES... is a new category of speaker that sends audio overhead via an upward firing element & the DAES is different than a ceiling speaker. When configuring a ceiling speaker during connection & Atmos setup, it is generally referred to as: Top Front, or Top Rear.

If you don't mind Nismo, can you explain what you have? I cut and pasted from your signature quote, the 5.2.2 setup: So you've got RF-7's, and surrounds. Four upward firing Atmos modules which you describe as Front and Rear heights. I get the front two RP-140SA are on the towers, how are the back two mounted, on stands? I think I get it now that I've typed it out, but technically the front height is another kind of speaker setup, (as in height or wides). Is the description of the front heights now an obsolete term, or is there another term for Atmos front heights? I had the same terminology confusion when Scrappydue mentioned "ceiling" speakers. He was using that term to describe the Atmos sound bouncing off the ceiling, which is different from ceiling speakers mounted in the ceiling. I just want to make sure I'm using the right terminology. I have 5.2.4 with a pair of RP-140SA's on top of my RF-7's. And a pair of RP-140SA's on top of my RS-7's. My RS-7's are on stands with corner placement. They are on an angle, so the 140's can be placed on them accordingly. If my RS-7's were mounted flush to either the back or side wall... I could not place the 140's on them. ================ Good question with the "front height or rear height" designation in my signature. I chose that description to indicate the 140SA's were were sending audio to the "height plane" above. Plus, when making the physical speaker connection to the AVR... you connect the speaker to either the "Height 1" or "Height 2" terminal. I can see where the descriptive terminology can get confusing. The generic term for the RP-140SA would be an up-firing speaker, whether integrated within a tower or an separate add-on module. With an Atmos configuration, Klipsch calls the RP-140SA (add-on modules): Elevation Speakers. Denon designates them: Front Dolby, Rear Dolby or Surround Dolby (depending on placement). Marantz calls them: Front Dolby Enabled, Rear Dolby Enabled, or Surround Dolby Enabled (depending on placement). Onkyo calls them: Dolby Enabled Speaker (Front, Back or Surround). Dolby calls them either up-firing speakers or DAES (Dolby Atmos Enabled Speakers). ================ I might change my signature reference, so that the up-firing RP-140SA's are not confused with a traditional (vertical wall mount) height.

Plus, with ID... if I don't like the result... I can return it for a full refund. edit: For the OP... I have a pair of 15" XS15se's coming from PSA. I'll be happy to let you know how they sound in my space. Not sure how that will translate with your space, but it at least gives you another option that is similar in price to the R-115SW.

After HBO's Deadwood (2004-2006)... nothing has too many F-bombs. They were present, but certainly not unlike many other R rated movies with similar content.

btw, I never even mentioned ceiling channels/speakers. I think you Jack has a Daniels behind it. lol Trust me... if you have 2 Atmos speakers... you will want 4.

I can only offer advice from my perspective. The OP mentioned possible use of RP-140's. Nothing jacked up at all. I would recommend the exact same path I already posted, no question.

I liked this one. A slight throwback hinting to a Roger More's Bond, fresh, raw, zany, with a touch of British sophistication. Samuel Jackson stunk the place up with his phoned-in performance, but I was fun to watch. PQ & AQ was excellent. Look forward to a sequel, it has promise with new Kingsman, Taron Egerton in the lead role.

If you ride (or just like bikes & motor sports) this will be a great Blu-ray to check out. This new effort is 40+ years from the original documentary On Any Sunday (1971) by Australian film maker Bruce Brown (which included Steve McQueen & other riders of the day). On Any Sunday the Next Chapter (2014), by Dana Brown (Bruce Brown's son) captures the love affair with today's bike culture. Covering everything from MotoGP, Motocross, Bonneville, Pikes Peak, Daredevil Robbie Madison & even your everyday riders both young & old. The father, Bruce Brown is known for his many award winning surfer documentaries such as Endless Summer. His son, Dana Brown also brought us; Step into Liquid & Baja 1000. On Any Sunday, the Next Chapter is released with an Atmos track & while its not going to blast you like a Hollywood blockbuster, it does provide an effective sense of realism throughout. The audio is always crisp, precise & accurate, helping to put you right in the middle of the action. If you enjoy bikes, you'll certainly enjoy On Any Sunday, the Next Chapter. I had a smile on my face from start to finish.