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----------------On 11/22/2004 4:18:30 PM sfogg wrote:"One example of a reflex-ported front-loaded bass horn (and the ONLY one that I know of) "Most of the Altec VOT systems were front loaded bass drivers with the back chamber ported.Shawn----------------
Yep Shawn, but I think DMan is focusing on the larger (some folded) bass horn configurations that use the horn in a much different way than the VOTs. The simple horn on the Altec's is not there to help extension as much as efficiency.
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AC nuetral is generally a reasonable ground - there are some folks that run power conditioning that gives you a source for earth ground. While this is a good alternative and goes further to isolate any noise issues, you should still be able to quieten that tone arm with a good 'system' ground. I would think that the problem will exist even if you isolated the ground to earth.
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Well Greg - welcome to turntable heck. It does sound like a grounding issue. The irritating part is that the lack of continuity may not be anywhere near where you are most noticing the problem. The only good way to solve is to trace all grounding circuits in the table - unfortunately that is usually a bench project. You can still do some checking on the common areas as others have mentioned.
One of the common areas not mentioned yet is the sheating on the L/R output cables - they tend to be the culprit more often than reason indicates. I have found this to be true on two tables - both had the cables directly connected on the TT side and were resolved by simply reheating the solder on the connects. Go figure...
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Rplace - leaving for the weekend - the answer to your questions require some thought and length - could you PM me a reminder to respond when I get back.
Speaker building runs from fairly easy to darn difficult - sound is affected by box size, shape and Xover of multi ways. Fun and not quite as daunting as it can appear.
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The variations on the Heresy over the years has done little to change the overall sound of this great little speaker. The Heresy has looked the same and sounded pretty darn similar for 40+ years. I have both the one's refered to as Heresy I (there is no such beast, but since there is a Heresy II you need to be able to call the originals something) and the early years Heresy II. There were changes over the years - the late sixties to about 84 are the Heresy I's most folks relate to - Alnico drivers and a pretty stable Xover (type E seems to be the most commonly liked here). As the Heresy II grew up we see different magnets and drivers, but a real concern to mainly tweak - not redefine - the sound.
Original specs on the Heresy were a bit misleading - I think they said the LF went down to 40hz. While it does do that the SPL is pretty darn low. The newer specs of 55hz seem like a more realistic F3 number that applies to the older speakers as well as the new.
I have yet to hear a speaker the size of the Heresy handle the mids and highs in as pleasing a way to my ear as the heresy. They are pretty darn efficient,dynamic and clean. In a nearfield environment they are a really nice 2 channel - the LF is Ok when you are near them without putting tons of volume out. Most folks will tell you to add a sub (I did) - and they are right. A good sub can make these little speakers become one of your favorite and best investments.
My HT has 4 heresy (front and side), a modified heresy center, Infinity rears (I know - but not much goes there but mono) and SVS 20-39pci. I love the way it serves as an HT and music room. The size of the Heresy give you so many placement variations that you can make most small rooms sound really nice.
You can sneak a look at my set up here:
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----------------On 11/18/2004 9:53:49 AM Champagne taste beer budget wrote:I posted this last night, but apparently the forum was hungry and ate it. Trying again.Should get you started, the one post has a link to the drawings and install instructions.----------------
Sorry to be so late to the thread - That link and the picture above cover the gamut. These speakers are in their third or fourth year in the ceiling and I have been extremely pleased with the look and sound. Anyone is welcome to private message me for more details.
It is a very simple, secure approach that can be made attractive - kind of the best of all worlds. It takes no significantly fine carpentry except for the outside trim. The cost is less than $20 (which included the trim in my case).
Thanks to all for their nice comments.
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Good question Colin - my first inclination would be to use a JBL bass bin - The plans are readily available and I think it is a good match for the rest of the the cornwall horns. My current building project is a JBL bin with the horns mounted on top in a separate surround.
I like the sound of the JBL and find it at least comparable. The bin also frees up the creativity in design of the overall speaker.
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Tom is one of the good guys - I would go with his recommendations...
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----------------On 11/16/2004 10:55:16 AM paulparrot wrote:If you have to put your ear against the speakers to hear the hiss, just forget about it. At that level, it won't interfere with enjoying music.----------------
Paul is right on - you can test the electronics in a shade tree fix it way by selecting sources and turning the volume up and see which one's are the biggest hiss culprits - this will narrow it to either your source or the switch/DAC components in amplification.
Otherwise I wouldn't worry...
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I am not as sure as the rest here about the deal - I too am a JBL fan and these units are cherished by the community.
There are some unanswered questions - I would want to be sure that the cross over to the 2441 is compatable with the frequency capability of the combined driver and horn. I would also want to price the recone - always be sure to remagnatize (I do believe these are alnico).
The individual components are very much good things and with the right Xover configuration theses things can tickle a bunch of folks fancy. I still prefer the Khorn, but I would put a well done speaker with these components right with the belle. You will notice the interesting sound of the LF - it is very full and horn like due to some Xover magic that goes beyond treating the two woofs as a single entity. I also notice the mid - not as much to my liking as horn loaded, but no real bad thing there.
My 2 cents.
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Woo Hoo!!! I am envious and wishing for a room to fit Khorns...
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Heresy is the plural form.
A single speaker is a Heresi.
Now that you have the real answer you can go back to election politics....
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I will go a step farther and say that even for music I find a sub is an excellent augmentation. A good sub works in the regions where your RF 7 spl starts to fall off. While mathematically folks can tell you how little this matters, my ear says that the lower octave of most recorded music comes alive when a sub is used and more closely resembles what I hear in a live performance.
2 cents....
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Any news on this gathering - just back in town and trying to catch up..
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----------------On 10/26/2004 9:35:42 AM Maron Horonzak wrote:DAVE....thank you for the invitation...But the doctor says no. on Oct.11 I had a cornory bypass (4 way) At the Mo. Heart Center Boone Hospital Columbia Mo.----------------
That's tough news Maron, but a good tube cleaning seems to work well nowadays. Best of luck.
BTW - I won $20 from an unnamed forum member - he swore you were heartless.....
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I find most Engelbert Humperdink songs to be very scarey...
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I am in - I want to be on the nominating committee as well....
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Probably fort Jaffee - that may make our friend either Gaurd or Reserve.
If anyone here buys, pass my appreciation for their service (if that is the case).
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Gremlin Forum
"What happened to the rest of my car?"
Pacer Forum
"Where do you hide the beer?"
We need a forum for the badly named cars like the Buick Wildcat - huh? Looks and handles like an elephant.
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----------------On 10/16/2004 3:18:55 AM dippafly wrote:hi. im new to the forum. im building a new home theater system from scratch. i want to build a system mainly to listen to music and then movies. 80/20 split. i like hip hop music. so, i have a few questions:1. what parts of the system are the most important (rank order of importance)? ie. centre channel, subwoofer, floor speakers, surroundsFront main loudspeakers, subwoofer, center channel speaker, side speakers, amplification, DACs, CD/DVD transport, Tuner, TV2. what part of the system can i get away with spending less money on?CD/DVD transport3. what do you think of the bose 601-iv floor speakers compared with the rf-35 or rf-25?Please try to not think of Bose - If you like the Bose sound there are literally 25 -34 loudspeaker setups that sound better, cost less and are easier to integrate into a system.4. what do you think of the jbl e250p 12" subwoofer compared with the rw-12?Never heard the JBL, but gaurantee you will like the RW-12much thanks in advance!----------------
My thoughts are in bold above.
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----------------On 10/14/2004 9:17:01 PM Cornwalled wrote:Hey Guys,Is there something wrong? I don't see any pictures in this entire thread. What's up? Do I have something wrong with my system?-Jon----------------
It is a shame you aren't getting the pictures. The one that looks like Angelina Jolie except prettier and with a better body is a classic....
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----------------On 10/9/2004 1:18:40 AM jdm56 wrote:Still, my preference would be three-ways -- Halle Berry, Jennifer Lopez, and ME!!!
----------------What? Without Angelina Jolie involved I would have to decline.
Full Range single driver systems, even in the best I have heard, tend to be lacking to my ear on some frequency response and, based on the driver, some sort of mid or LF oddities that don't match my preference.
Two and three ways come in various flavors of good or bad. A well made loudspeaker of either configuration suits my ear better and I tend to gravitate in 'blind' tests to high efficiency three ways. The best way I can describe it is that it provides a sense of a live performance that I don't get otherwise.
My favorite way to listen to music is live.....Dynamic reproduction is a requirement.
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----------------On 10/11/2004 9:54:01 PM DeanG wrote:You CANNOT smoke Crack while doing these listening tests.----------------
Uh Oh - Please disregard any of my previous listening tests/reviews.
I wish I had known the rules earlier....
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cool - I'll PM as I get closer to mind being made up (what one does to an 'untidy' mind)...
Giving Thanks
in General Klipsch Info
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Nicely started Dodger and I echo all the gratitude given in this thread (although I am struggling with the Turkey thingy).
Let me add the american soldier and their families - they need a special thanks for this extraordinary stress.