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In my video here you will notice that Upscale Audio has the Forte IV several feet from the wall and to add further insult to injury, they've added a sub. Why pull this speaker from the walls, only to lose more bass, then add a subwoofer to get bass back, it makes no sense. It defeats the purpose and any way you can avoid a sub, then avoid it.
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13 hours ago, Bananas and Blow said:
I own the Forte IV's. I need them 22inches from the backwall in my 15X20 room to avoid the bass overwhelming the room. No way in hell would I enjoy them in a 10X10 room. I like an appropriate amount of bass and am not a bass-head. I owned the Heresy IV and I would think they would be great in a 10X10 room and wouldn't need a sub. I liked the H4 exactly 10 inches from the backwall. They will give you about 10 more hz deeper than your H1.
I have moved my Fortes all over my room and when I put them 10 inches from the backwall the bass was overpowering. I suppose there was a certain awesomeness in a rock concert kind of way. But it wasn't something I would want to listen to for long.
My biggest challenge after 100 hours of breaking in my Fortes was taming in the bass...in a much bigger room than yours. When I settled on EL-34 tubes in my amp with about 25 watts was the bass perfect, but I don't like bass that pummels my ear drums. If you do then you might love the Fortes in your room.
Skip to 7:50 of this video. This is recommended by a Klipsch representative.
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I'd just refurbish the cabinets and save your money. The only think the IV offers more of is the bottom end and even then in order to make it more audible, they would have to be turned up more. New Heritage series are overpriced. The midrange and top end is nicer in the earlier models in my opinion. In my friends room which isn't acrostically treated, so I prefer the IV because the top end is slightly softer sounding.
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Yea, it'll work great in that size room and no, the rear radiator won't be an issue in fact it's recommend to be 10-13" from the wall.
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Definitely no subs needed at all with these.
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KLF20's have lots of bottom end in fact more than I actually prefer but if bass is what you want, they'll deliver. They do have a noticeable amount of box resonance but my friend used something inside the corners like Liquid Nails to bring that resonance down. This video is before that modification was made.
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Good point I’ll add room.
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In your guys opinion, what has more impact on differences in sound in most cases. I'm not necessarily saying for the better or for worse. If you had to choose what alters it the most. Of course there's other components, but let's just stick to these. I'm curious what the average one turns out to be.
DAC?
Room?
Preamp?
Amplifier?
Speakers?
Recording quality?
Thanks,
---daniel
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On 7/14/2023 at 3:50 PM, stormin said:
I am so content with the music reaching my ears.
It just feels all worth it to reach this level of enjoyment.
Klipsch Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Me too! That's a great place to be.
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Nice to hear that the Decware is working out. I used to have one but Decware really just opened up because of the YouTube channels. There's other great amps to choose from now.
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I've never jumped on the newer is better band wagon. I enjoy my Heresy II's and Forte I's just fine. I think the Forte III and IV were more of a let down. Also, Klipsch tried to soften the top end of the newer speakers and the way the were originally is why they were what they were. They didn't need to be anything else other than to help keep the business flowing. All the newer Heritage are way overpriced now.
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On 6/2/2023 at 5:52 PM, Mark51 said:
Do you own both all tube and all transistor amps and switch back and forth? And why?
I'm sure you'll get many responses. I use both but generally prefer tube amps and tube preamps. If you are torn between both, you can always link a tube preamp to a solid state amp. I don't recommend doing it the other way around unless you intend to spend higher amounts of money. I use SS for my Magnepan's and all tubes for my Heritage series.
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I'm so sick of all the Bu#@&%*! about measurements and those clowns on Audio Science Review. They don't even listen to anything.
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Shakey,
I'm willing to bet the gear you have listed is close to as good as most would ever need in order to enjoy the sound of their music. Having listened to many setups and high end gear, there's just a point of diminishing return on investment and in some cases, little to no improvement. Most of the really expensive gear sells for about half what it retails for because most of it is purchased by those with deep pockets who are often less informed. To them, it's just like going out and buying a fancy watch. It's like someone who has money to buy fifty thousand dollar cables. We all know they perform no better but there are people willing to spend it.
Here's a prime example of a hustle.
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On 5/8/2021 at 2:50 PM, mopardave said:
Allnic has something that costs $54,000 and Ayon $10,000, Cary $3000+. Are these amps really worth that kind of money?
No
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Careful with my reviews though. According to John Warren, I'm a snake oil salesman.
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My motto is don't fix what ain't broke. I never update anything if I don't have to.
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On 5/5/2023 at 3:02 AM, John Warren said:
"Before I tell you about the sound..."
The starting line of the snake-oil salesman.
What am I selling? Pretty cocky response. If you look at the rest of my reviews, you'll see I review and praise many things. So I must be a snake oil salesman for all the other stuff too right? Let me know and I'll tell you what I actually do.
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So thinking on this. RP600M $439, Bluesound Node $599 and Zen amp $1195. Not all that expensive.
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That’s fair enough.
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In my opinion neutral can be a bit over rated and boring to listen to. If the coloration sounds good, that's all that matters.
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Tidal search engine is horrible. It amazes how bad it is. Qobuz is much more user friendly in that regard. With regard to Spotify until they do hi res, it's unlistenable to me but I stopped using it recently so maybe they have hi res now, I don't know but it was too compressed.
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Forte IV for small room?
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In my next video here if you skip to 4:00 with a pair of earbuds or headsets, I have my Forte's against the wall about 10" and the bass is more audible in a good way in my opinion. Yes, it's a different room with different acoustics, but Upscale has their own dedicated listening room and others can judge for themselves. Their setup sounds nice, but I would have preferred a bit more bottom end.