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17 minutes ago, Maximus89 said:
Thanks! I'm going to do this tomorrow! So i just ask for a pair of the new KD-15's and that's that? Don't need to verify that i am a Forte III owner or anything like that? I always assumed for new speaker parts, you have to verify you're an owner of that speaker.
BTW does it come with hardware?It did not come with any hardware.
Ordering requires calling, I have the internal part number on a previous post in this thread but it's not required. They will verify that it's a 15" passive for a Forte iii, to which I just replied: "yeah, sure". Easy peasy. Maybe call early to avoid a long wait.
good luck!
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2 hours ago, Maximus89 said:
Wow! I'm so glad i checked this thread! I have 1 passive radiator on my Chorus II that has a massive tear that was re-glued by previous owner, 1 small poked hole thats still there and crayon markings from a child. Those new passives with the PWK logo look amazing! Anyone find the price? (missed the post with price. Awesome price! I was being charged $60 for a single re-cone by a local guy.)
Haha yeah, if I could go back and re-title this thread, I would.
Not sure how the Kd-15 and -16 compare, but I had to replace both so if there is a discrepancy, I wouldnt be able to tell. I just feel fortunate that this option was available.
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2 hours ago, DrWho said:
Btw, whereabouts are you located? I'd love to run some comparison curves between the KD-15 and KD-16.
Also, I just realized I have a spare KD-16 sitting around collecting dust. Only one of my passives broke, but the other is totally fine.
Im in Orlando, FL. Let me know if I can help.
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UPDATE:
Package arrived. Took about 5 business days UPS Ground from Arkansas to Florida (weather delay en route).
Fit: Very snug, but didn't require unreasonable force to place it in location. Just an observation - If I were nit picking, once screwed in, I notice the lip is not completely flush with the cabinet on one half. They were tightened progressively in a star pattern. That said, it's a non-issue and I'm not nit picking here.
Sound: Significant improvement in bass clarity and presence. You can "feel the air move". It has balanced the sound and I am very pleased with results. Tight bass makes me wonder if they need time to break in, or if it's just a speaker placement/location issue - I installed and tested them in a smallish room. Again, just an observation.
Summary: i love what i am now hearing. I can't pinpoint any flaws or weaknesses in sound, though my experience in audio is limited. Id have to hear another set of Chorus ii's to have a reference, but compared to my KG4s, Precence and Effortless are the most notable differences. If you're needing to replace your C-ii passives, I wouldn't hesitate to order the KD-15. Glad I went this route, thankful it worked out great and grateful to community for their input!
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Installed new crossovers and ti diaphragms and tested the sound using the woofers that came with it, just for kicks, in the passive radiator spot. Sound is better, but those woofers hamper the bass significantly.
Spoke with Klipsch Parts Dept. - Total for 2 new passives (KD-15 / #1063995) was $90, including S&H/tax.
Considering the price for a quantity of 2:
SS Recone kit - $90 (incl S&H)
Matierials for Porting - $40 (not incl time and travel)
...thats a no brainer. I'll update once i receive and replace them.
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My intent with these was to hopefully restore them to sound they way they designed. That said, before i got too carried away, I wanted to ensure that they were in good enough condition to warrant spending more for repairs. I still need to check out the other drivers, but if all else is well, then I will probably try to be patient and wait to find one on ebay or I'll end up going the forte iii way. Until then, I might experiment with the rear ports as a temporary solution - if they sound good, then im probably going to be more patient in my search for the passives.
I took a chance with this purchase, and with little prior audio experience, i was not fully aware of its condition when i bought them. Im hoping to get them back to sounding right and being able to enjoy them for quite a while. It has been a learning experience and I am thankful for all of the feedback I have received.
I'll provide an update once I get a chance to spend time with these, this weekend.
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6 hours ago, DrWho said:
Btw, I checked my notes. The port holes were 3" in diameter and 0.75" deep (the thickness of the MDF). A passive radiator and normal port provide the same acoustic function. If you have the ability to cut circles, then this will by far be the easiest solution - and it's completely reversible should you decide to change your mind. Just use the same screws that were holding the passive radiator in place.
@Chief bonehead or anyone else who has knowledge of this - I am curious about what your opinions are regarding fabricating ports vs. passive radiators in the Chorus iis. I think I am going to give this a shot..
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4 hours ago, Chief bonehead said:
You don't need the parameters. All you need is me saying that the drone in the III will work in the ii. That's all.
2 hours ago, DizRotus said:@Monkeybuddy you might not realize that @Chief bonehead is Roy Delgado, an engineer at Klipsch. If he says it will work, it will work.
The confidence in his reply alone sold me, but that is very reassuring to know - thank you.
I'm going to call to see how much they are. Im guessing $100+ for each, not sure if they have a recone kit. I may end up getting the Simply Speakers Recone Kit at $40/ea, removing the magnet and reconing both. But perhaps there is something to be said about using Klipsch parts vs 3rd party?
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1 hour ago, DrWho said:
No - that doesn't work. The suspension of the passive radiator is much softer than the suspension of the active driver. This is how you tune the resonant frequency. The suspension of an active driver is way too stiff (and not hard to model actually).
I would sooner use the KD-15 passive from the Forte III, but I think the risk is a design that is tuned too low and too narrow. Do you think you could get Klipsch to share the T/S parameters of the KD-15? Without that, we can't know how well it'd work in the Chorus II cabinet.
If simply speakers has the correct recone kit, then you could use the recone kit with the existing driver frame and take off the magnet. That would probably be the second cheapest route.
Btw, I checked my notes. The port holes were 3" in diameter and 0.75" deep (the thickness of the MDF). A passive radiator and normal port provide the same acoustic function. If you have the ability to cut circles, then this will by far be the easiest solution - and it's completely reversible should you decide to change your mind. Just use the same screws that were holding the passive radiator in place.
I'll look into specs for the KD-15 and report back.
Another thought:The metal cage of the woofer and passive i removed look very similar, if not exactly the same. Any thoughts about removing the magnet and using a recone kit like the one in this link:https://www.simplyspeakers.com/klipsch-speaker-passive-radiator-recone-kit-rk-klpkd15.htmlJust realized this question was addressed in the previous post
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@moray james - would love your input regarding this topic.
I asked the Klipsch rep about using the passives from another speaker i.e. Forte, but he didnt really give me a clear answer and it seemed as if he were leaning towards 'No'. I'll research this possibility a bit more, but perhaps someone else has already?
It was also suggested to me that i could simply remove the magnet from the Woofer (the one i removed from the passive radiator location) , and use that as the passive. Is this feasible?
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UPDATE:
Spoke with a Klipsch representative who informed me they no longer carry this part/ KD-16. He recommended a place called Simply Speakers, but it doesnt seem that they have the whole assembly - just a recone kit.
I guess I'll be posting a "WTB" ad here soon... Not sure if finding another drop-in 15" passive radiator is plausible.
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Im also in the market for one. Dont know if this thread is dead though..
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42 minutes ago, jjptkd said:
So both of those woofers in the picture are from the rear of your cabinets? There shouldn't be any magnets, wire leads or voice-coils on passives. If you have the correct woofers in the front than $300 doesn't sound like a bad deal as the pair of k-48's (proper Chorus active woofers) should be worth that by themselves.
That is correct - Both of those woofers in the pic were removed from the rear of the speaker. I believe the real woofers are in tact, but will have to wait to get home to verify.
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1 minute ago, Ljk said:
I was trying to figure that out, think your right melted inductors. Ya wow! Have you checked the mid and tweeters yet?
From the demo, i knew something was wrong with the tweeters. Once i got a chance to open it up, i tested the tweeters with a multimeter and got a null reading. I assumed they were dead. Replaced them with ti diaphragms from Crites. That was when i removed the "passive radiator"..
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16 minutes ago, adam2434 said:
Is that a melted coil on each crossover?
If so, wow, never seen that!
DC from a bad amp perhaps?
Indeed. That could be - another suggestion was that it could be from continued use after tweeters had blown.
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4 hours ago, Ljk said:
Might want to look at the crossovers while your in there.
Pics of the crossover from each speaker. I had already planned to replace them, and bought new ones from crites. Attaching the pics if anyone was curious.
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4 hours ago, jjptkd said:
That's the wrong woofer for a Chorus II cabinet as well, looks like someone pulled a fast one on you and you have every right to be pissed! Hopefully the cabinets are nice and you got them for a good price, replacement parts can be found Klipsch started making the passives again for the forte III so they might sell you a pair. If I were you I'd pull both cabinets completely apart and inspect all the drivers to make sure they are correct.
The cabinents are rough - chips and scratches. Enough to the point where I'd consider reapplying veneer as another project. I paid 300. At this point not sure how good of a deal that was...
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5 hours ago, DizRotus said:
I take it that both "radiators" shown in your post are from the same cabinet. If that is the case, it appears that someone has replaced the passive radiator with a woofer that had the magnet removed. If so, you need to get a proper passive radiator.
I'd open the other cabinet to see what's inside for comparison.
I think you are right - It looks as though someone replaced the radiator with a woofer.
The pics are from both "radiators", removed.
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7 hours ago, wvu80 said:
Those are not passive radiators, those are woofers each from the front of the speaker. Woofers have magnets, passive's don't. Your woofer is toast, you need another one.
Here is a picture of a Chorus II passive radiator which is in the back of the speaker.
Please excuse me if I use the wrong terms - i dont mind corrections at all, as I'm still a novice and learning hifi.
The pics i took of the "radiator"/woofer, were removed from the Rear of the speaker. Im a little confused as well as it looks like there are power leads on them. Perhaps someone plugged them in an attempt to patch it up for sale?
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I picked up a pair of chorus ii's and didn't realize until later, that the magnet on the back of the passive radiator was missing from one of the speakers. During the demo, I noticed muddy bass and it sounded like the tweeters were weak - figured new crossovers and tweeter diaphragm would resolve these issues. Ordered parts from crites. Then took it apart and noticed the missing magnet...
I tried googling what what I thought were part numbers and keyword combos - no joy. Going to see if klipsch support can help, but wanted to see if anyone here had any insight. Would be much appreciated as I can't help but feel bummed about my purchase
attaching pics of the two, side by side, and the label on the magnet.
*SOLD* Chorus ii - Used Crossovers
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SOLD - Thanks for the interest!
Chrous ii Crossovers (Pair) - Removed from a second-hand pair of Chorus II's, that were replaced with Crites. Both were in working condition prior to removal. Not Tested - Sold As-Is. Contact me for more pics.
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