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Not sure if these have been posted yet...Looks like a killer deal...
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/ele/d/boulder-creek-klipsch-lascala/7003187259.html
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Interesting....this from 2009; a thread with a post by "khorn51":
"I have a few old khorns ( call it 7 ) and the best sounding stock twetter to me is theJensen RP-302 used on my 51. I thik they only used it on some 51's. I dont know why klipsch stoped using it might have been cost and very few recodings back then used the high info this tweeter could put out.
The university tweeter is ok sounding but I would pick the t35 over it, but theres not that big of a diffrence.
I use the orig crossovers in most of my 50's Khorns and have found all them still up to spec. Te old large can caps rarely leak or driff out of spec. If someone is making new crossovers that are the same specs as the 50's one thats news to me as the 60's and later are at diffrent points do the the metal mid horn bass slot ect. I like the way the older horns sound over newer ones. I have done a lot of a b using the top from my split lascals with new and stock a/ aa crossovers. the 51 is the smoothest sounding and my number one pic.
If you have the trousonic 15's dump them and send them to me,I'll send you some new k33."
and he later added this one:
"R P 302’s can be really big $$ if the seller knows what it is. The ones Klipsch used were the gold ones with the bullet shaped cover with bracket for mounting to the mid horn.. looks just like this one in link below"
Here's a better link:
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Although Jensen did make a RP-203 compression horn tweeter...I believe the legendary Jensen 610 Tri-axial came with a RP-302 tweeter (regarded as one of the best vintage tweeters ever made)...maybe someone else could confirm which one came with the early Klipschorns.
FYI, Several RP-302s are currently on eBay:
BTW, I believe the RP-302 and the early University 4401s were 16 OHM.
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For what it is worth...the Jensen woofer looks to be original...shows a date code of the 37th week of 1951. I have some later Jensen P15LLs ('66) that show a DCR of 3.1 each (nominally 4 Ohm)
According to the Khorn timeline, the tweeter is most likely a later replacement for what would have originally been a University 4401:
"The first three-way Klipschorn incorporated a Jensen RP203 tweeter. This
tweeter came from the famous Jensen G-610 Triaxial 15" driver and required
considerable negotiations with Jensen. It was not until mid-1952 that all
Klipschorns were three-way. A two-way Klipschorn with response to 12Khz was
generally adequate for program material up to that time. The University MID-T-
4401 replaced the Jensen unit as the tweeter of choice later in 1951."Is there any indication the upright center piece in the midrange/squawker horn had a tweeter installed inside like this pic?:
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These things are huge...not sure of the application. Any thoughts?
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based on the 220724 code on the speaker, it appears this woofer was produced in the 24th week of '67
here's a pic of the previous K-33J version from the 47th and 49th weeks of '66
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Front ported or back ported? Just interested, can you post pics of front and rear?
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Thanks for the kind offer. I am a few days driving distance.
It would be great to get actual readouts for mine.
I think they were produced near the end of use by Klipsch (in '66)
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Now I am really confused; found this on Google, appears that both sizes were used at some point (including a weird pic of throat wedges added to the 6 x 13 slotted mounting panel?) ...
It also has TSP specs in one of the replies, but my research suggests it was performed on a non-original P15LL...
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I should add that these both have 3.1 DCR measurements
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Searched the site for definitive answer...still unsure.
Looking for advise from the experts.
Here are the speakers in question:
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Looking to get more info on the bass bin construction where it sits on the floor...which years/models were produced with the wider bottom plywood section that mirrors the top hat angles?
Decorators only?
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No wonder the sound from the model T reportedly had substantially more bass than the vertical model S units.
I found this pic from some prior postings by vintage Klipsch fan Funkyhambone on Shorthorn restoration (doesn't appear to active on the site anymore).
Looks like a quasi bifurcated horn implementation.
Still hoping to get more particulars on the rear slot construction details.
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sorry double post...moved back to original thread
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Might be a good deal for someone local...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Klipsch-Forte-ii/193085094493?hash=item2cf4c4ba5d:g:rD4AAOSweHddcIQM
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the woofer proximity to the ceiling and corners reinforces the bass as Paul K evangelized (corner placement) ....
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nothing wrong with the speakerlab khorns...many proponents here on the forum...price could still be a good deal based on condition/internal components...
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Look like Speakerlab clones....
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From the listing:
"PAIR OF KLIPSCH CORNWALL LOUDSPEAKER.
The Item is KLIPSCH CORNWALL-I produced in late 70’s.
The condition is excellent. I have to move to small space so i can not go with this big speaker system.
I bought this Arkansa from an old person who worked as an Engineer in Klipsch plant when Klipsch manufactured this system in Arkansa plant. He refreshed this vintage speaker system.
I accept only local pick up."
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Offer him $2,500.