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my friend has a vintage wurlitzer organ, but the 16 ohm speakers were buzzing so he bought some replacements that are the same size but are 8 ohm. the speakers will still work right? my understanding is that you wouldn't want to replace 8 ohm speakers with 16 ohm but doing it the other way is acceptable. is this correct?

The ONLY reason not to go with the RP3s would be room/size restrictions. If space is not an issue, DEFINATELY go with the RP3s. The RF3s will require an independant sub to match the performance of the RP3s in the lower frequencies. This should be taken into account when comparing the prices of both models. I have a pair of RP3s and I absolutely love them. In fact when I went to the Klipsch dealer in town I found I actually preferred the RP3s over the RF7s with the RSW15 sub for two channel applications (for home theater applications the RF7s with the RSW15 blew the RP3s away of course). I realized that due to the crossover differences between the sub and the midrange of the RF7, and due to the use of a single sub with two speakers, the two channel sound from the RP3s simply sounded smoother and more balanced. The crossovers in the RP3s with built in subs just offered a smoother transition across the frequency band, and having a sub per speaker resulted in a more balanced presentation. 2 ears, 2 channels, 2 speakers, 2 subs. It just made sense. I was told that since the sound waves produced by bass drivers are greater in length than the distance between your ears, bass sound is omni or non-directional. But I could still hear a difference with a sub per channel instead of one sub for both. Based on recommendations from this forum and audioreview.com, I bought the RP3s off Ebay without auditioning them and I haven't regretted the decision for a moment, especially when I heard the RF3s (Is not IIs) in The Good Guys a while ago. The RF3s without a sub cannot compete with the RP3s as far as 2 channel music is concerned (in my humble opinion), and the RF3s with an independant sub wont sound as balanced (Again, in my opinion), regardless of the extra money you will spend. My friends liked the RP3s so much two of them went out and bought some. We all paid roughly $550 on Ebay (without shipping unfortunately). Hopefully your deal is close to that. Goodluck, let us know what you decide.

---------------- On 10/31/2003 6:01:08 PM DrWho wrote: so arena, how you liking the new cooledit pro? i demoed it a while back and have used 2000 in the past...I'm considering buying it on top of cubase, so that i got 2 different programs to help prevent my mixes sounding like they're from just one program ---------------- Well I've only spent about 2 hours with Cool Edit Pro and in that time I was able to figure out how to record in multitrack and edit. I can also tell that this program is way more powerful than I will ever need it to be, which is a nice problem to have. I can't compare it to earlier versions, but version 2.0 is great.

---------------- On 10/30/2003 11:54:53 PM CO1 wrote: Sorry to jump in here but since you did all the research a buddy of mine is looking for a PC program that will record is guitar sessions. I'm assuming he would want to be able to do some editing before burning the final product. Thanks. ---------------- Co1, I just got Cool Edit Pro v2.0. My friend has a Sony Minidisc mixer/recorder and using CEP we were able to run his guitar out of his Marshall, through a Shure mic, through the mixer and into the back of my soundcard through the line in. CEP supports multitrack recording (over 100 tracks available), so you can record one track, then play along to that track while recording another. Also my friend says the userface is easier to use than the mixing options on his minidisc. Email me if you would details on how to get the program.

I'm looking at a Creek a50i right now. Has anyone had any experience with these? Thanks again.

I'm looking for a PC audio editing program, the simpler the better, but I will need it to splice, fade in and out, and adjust levels. Pro Tools is not an option unfortunately. I have a line in on my soundcard, hopefully this program will be able to record from that jack. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

---------------- actually we need more details, budget? room size? ht? 2 channel?---------------- Budget: $500-$600 Room Size: 20 feet long by 14 feet wide by 10 feet high. Strictly 2 Channel, no HT. As to subs, the RP3s each have a 10 inch sub with a built in 440 watt amp, so no problems there. Any other suggestions?

I'm currently running a pair of RP3s with a Harmon Kardon HK3370 reciever, and have a Rega Planet 2000 for source. I got the RP3s for $500 on eBay, and the Rega Planet 2000 for $500 on Audiogon.com. I am EXTREMELY pleased with both. However I feel the Harmon Kardon is now the weakest link in my system. Would I notice significant improvement by upgrading my amp? I know significant is a relative/subjective term, but I do feel I noticed significant improvement by switching from Sony to Rega for source, and I've heard the pre-amp/amp will make a greater difference in sound quality. I consider the RP3s and the Rega Planet 2000 great bargains at $500 a piece, so what are some options for a great bargain amp? I'd be spending $500-600, but purchasing from eBay or Audiogon and I don't mind used, so I could end up with an amp that originally sold for more than my target price. At this point I'm not really considering tubes, I've never been able to hear a tube amp and my friend is having a rough time with his vox ac30, so I think I'll stick with solid state for now. You guys helped me decide on the Rega Planet 2000, so thanks in advance for any help.

That probably doesn't sound as bad as my current setup. Since my Klipsch speakers have failed and had to be shipped back to the dealer, I have been extracting cd audio into mp3 and transfering it to my hard drive, where I convert it into Nokia ring tones and download it to my cellphone via usb. Surprisingly, my Nokia cell phone has great imaging, and crystal clear highs, though the bass is a little lacking.

Well that was the problem, she was driving a 1970 Ford cruise missile.

---------------- On 10/8/2003 9:24:22 AM dodger wrote: Hello: I agree with GaryMD. Get a copy of the Police Report, she should have been tagged for no insurance and by hitting you in the rear, that puts her at fault. Get an appraisal of your car, note what is was worth prior to the accident, get a medical check-up - at sixty (60) MPH, it would have to be one heck of a hit. File a civil suit. ---------------- Yes, she was cited, and several witnesses put her at fault. The problem is when someone without insurance runs into you in California, the most likely reason they don't have insurance is because they don't have any money, so filing a civil suit wouldn't be worth the time. An acquaintance of mine filed a civil suit under similar circumstances and was awarded $8000. The only problem was the driver at fault was so poor that the judge awarded the payments be made in intervals of $17 a month. Not really enough money to buy a replacement Road Runner. You pay a hefty price for the constant 75 degree weather out here. Also, as to the restoration, I got the car from Georgia roughly 7 years ago. When it arrived, it was a rolling body only, minus the drivetrain, interior, and engine, except for the original engine block sitting in the trunk. I invested 2 years and thousands of dollars in the full restoration. It's a shame someone can take all that away in a few moments trying to watch a train. It had actually been a while since I had driven it when I took it out that day. I stopped driving it regularly after my 914 got smashed. I guess I realized whether or not my car got ruined had nothing to do with how good a driver I am, but instead depends on how good a driver everyone else is (a scary thought). So I changed the oil, washed it, and was just driving down the street to the local gas station to put air in the tires. At the station a homeless guy came up and started reminiscing with me about the glory days of muscle cars (I might end up missing how nostalgic that car seemed to make everyone more than the car itself). He eventually asked if there was a Greyhound bus station around, and since I hadn't taken the car out in a while I decided to drive him down to the station. Otherwise, I was heading back home. No good deed goes unpunished I guess. The last I saw of that guy he was being taken to the hospital with abraisions to his head and legs (he wasn't wearing his seatbelt, and went flying around the car during the accident. He ended up in the backseat when all was said and done). The accident happened on the 101 Southbound in between Glenn Anne/Storke and Los Carneros right before Santa Barbara. I was actually slowing down because of an accident that happened just ahead of us when I was hit from behind. Everyone slowed down on the otherside of the freeway heading Northbound to watch the show, which caused another accident, and another one 4 miles down the road. A few minutes later there was another accident behind us heading Southbound for a total of 5 accidents in 30 minutes. The accidents occured on 09/19 and I just got the police report yesterday, 10/07, which gives you some idea of how much trouble they had sorting everything out.

---------------- On 10/8/2003 1:41:00 AM kenratboy wrote: The problem is you can't take your insurance check down to the dealer and buy a new one. ---------------- No, the problem is there is no insurance check. Technically every driver in California is suppossed to have insurance, but very few drivers here are actually insured. About 3 years ago my Porsche 914 was destroyed on the same section of the 101 Southbound in pretty much the same manner. Here's a picture of it (fortunately I wasn't in the car at the time, it was parked OFF the freeway in the dirt due to a minor mechanical problem. The lady who drove over it in her Chevy Suburban was high on pot and, according to an eye witness account, attempted to pass a dump truck on the right by running off the freeway). I guess you could say I have pretty bad luck with cars.

Wear your seatbelts everybody.

Another angle.

Sorry if this is a little off topic, but surely we can't talk about speakers ALL day. I was stopped in heavy traffic on the freeway in my beautiful 69 Plymouth Roadrunner when the lady in the car behind me slammed into it at 60mph. According to the Police Report, she was too busy "looking at the train" to notice that traffic had stopped ahead of her. Amazingly, I walked away.

---------------- On 9/5/2003 12:26:12 AM DeanG wrote: It's easier just to push the other ones in so they all match. ---------------- Hahaha, I'll pass this advice along. Thanks for your help everyone.

My friend just bought a pair of RP-3s and his 1 year old nephew managed to pull the grill off and dent the black center of the midrange driver (I believe it's called the dust cover or something). He tried using a vacuum to suck it back out into shape but it didn't work. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

What exactly in the crossover will I be replacing and how will it result in sonic improvement? I'm very pleased with the overall "balance" of the RP3s, is it possible to change crossover components without accidentally shifting the balance or emphasis towards the bass or treble? Thanks again

I have a pair of Klipsch RP3s and while I'm completely satisfied with how they sound I was wondering if I could get any significant improvements by modifying the internal wiring or replacing certain parts of the crossover (I've seen a few posts about this recently). I'm on a relatively moderate budget and don't have much experience with a soldering iron. Thanks for any suggestions.

My friend is looking to purchase a pair of two channel reference Klipsch speakers but is having trouble deciding between the RP3s and the RP5s. Does anyone have the frequency response graphs for these two speakers? I'm sure the graphs would help him make his decision as he's looking for the model with the flattest overall frequency response. Thanks

If you're looking for reasonably priced 3-way Klipsch check out the RP-3s and RP-5s (both now discontinued). The RP3-s will run you roughly $500 on Ebay for the pair, the RP-5s about $650. Both are extremely sensitive speakers, and will definately out perform anything ever made by yamaha. The frequency response of the RP3s is 27Hz-20kHz, the RP-5s 25Hz-20kHz.

---------------- On 6/1/2003 4:21:17 PM leok wrote: I've found that at least one algorythm, the 192k sample/sec - 24-bit "upsampling" in the Philips "dvd963" makes cd rendition of cymbals and violins tolerable, and sometimes pretty good. I'm sure there are other approaches (other companies and products) that do a better job, as does the Philips, of maximizing what's available in a 16-bit, 44Ks/s recording, than the old 8x, 20-bit interpolation that has been around for so many years. Try some of the latest generation of cd players. They're not records, or SACD (some will play SACD), but they will put new life into an existing cd collection. ---------------- Yes yes, I completely agree. I was never satisfied with the upper frequencies of my Sony DVP-NS700P as cymbals, violins, even the letter "s" sounded harsh or overexaggerated. So I recently purchased a Rega Planet and the difference is amazing. It's strange to do an A/B comparison between my new player and the dvd player, all the same sounds are there on both units, but there is a quality of tone on the upper frequencies of the Rega that I've never heard before. Granted, it took me a while to notice the difference, it's subtle, but it's definately there. Now cymbals shimmer the way they are suppossed to, and each cymbal seems to have a distinct individual tone. If you're not satisfied with cd technology, try some of the latest generation players, as Leok suggested. I've found they make cymbals actually sound like metal, violins actually sound like strings, etc. It's not analog, but it's getting to the point where the difference is tolerable.

Don't know if you remember but I bought the Rega Planet 2000 to replace the Sony DVP-NS700P which I felt was harsh in the upper regions. My first impression was general surprise at how different the two players sounded. Initially I was disapapointed to realize I prefered the "in your face" sound of the Sony over what I thought was too much restraint or refinement in the Rega. However, after the initial listen i "burned in" the Planet for 100 hours continuous according to a few online recommendations. I've Never really believed a component would play differently after 100 hours at operating temperature. But a few days after the Planet arrived I already heard a difference between the way the Rega sounded on the first listen and after about 50 hours of burn in. So after burn in I sat down and put in Radiohead's 'Amnesiac' and was totally blown away. The whole sound had opened up, and the clarity and quality of tone and detail was unbelievable. Throughout the entire album I was consistently impressed by the detail and nuance the Planet pulled off the disc. I've never heard my speakers sound so good. The upper frequencies were especially impressive. The cymbals actually sounded like cymbals; they shimmered the way they are suppossed to, and each cymbal actually seemed to have an individual tone. After 'Amnesiac' I put on Radiohead's 'OK Computer' and again heard details and nuance I've never heard before. This player has an amazing ability to draw you into the music. I have no idea what happened, whether the player opened up after being burned in, or if I just warmed up to the Planet's sound, but I don't really care. For the first time I'm actually completely satisfied with my system. I don't even know if I'll upgrade my amp. I know I should, and I will hear improvements in doing so, but I don't feel the need to change anything right now, which is a really good feeling to have. Until know I would have summarized my feelings regarding my system in the following sentence: "My system sounds fantastic. But" But now I'm satisfied. At first I thought I would be selling the Rega, but it ended up selling me. Anyway, the difference is very subtle, but definately there. It's not immediately noticible in direct a/b comparisons however, as the Sony seemed to reproduce all the same sounds the Rega did. But after repeat listening it became clear the overall tone and quality of the Rega was in a completely different class. Eventually I didn't even need to do the a/b comparisons, I could tell when listening to the Rega that I was hearing a quality of tone and detail I had never heard before. Anyway, the new DACs should definately be checked out, just expect the improvements to be subtle and apparant only after repeat listenings.

My friend's band just finished recording an album, and during the final stages of mixing they mastered it down to 16 bit (I think with an interpolation or decimation filter, can't remember really) in order to put it onto compact discs, even though it was originally recorded in 24 bit. But if all cds are mastered down to 16 bit, what good is a 24 bit DAC? Does it try to logarythmically predict or simulate the original 24 bit recording? Also what exactly does 16 or 24 bit mean in terms of digital recordings? Thanks

Thanks for all the suggestions, I will be looking for a new Creek or vintage Scott when my budget permits. In the meantime, something strange is happening with the Planet. I've been running it for almost 4 days straight now, and last night I put on Bob Dylan's 'Time Out Of Mind' again and did another A/B comparison, and this time I was surprised to realize I preferred the sound of the Rega. I invited a friend over as an objective observer, and played him all the discs which I felt sounded better on the Rega, then all those that I felt sounded better on the Sony. He was able to tell me why exactly I prefer the Sony. He says that on his road trips back from Chicago (he just finished driving from Chicago IL to Santa Barbara CA in 2 days! He definately doesn't recommend it) sometimes he finds himself turning up the treble in order to simulate a kind of live or detailed feel, but once he has adjusted to the sound of emphasized treble, it is very hard for him to go back, and when he lowers the treble back to where it should be, everything sounds more distant, restrained, and less live. he says it sometimes takes him a few hours to "wean" himself off the treble. Now I've always felt that Sony components were a little biased towards the treble, perhaps Sony emphasizes the treble region so that cds sound more detailed or live when played on their players. However on certain recordings this ends up sounding distractingly harsh, but basically I've been listening to a Sony cd Player for the past 2 years, and the Sony dvd for the past 3 months. My friend suggested I have merely grown accustomed to the sound of emphasized treble, which sounds more live, but is actually subject to greater distortion, and recommends I try to wean myself off the Sony and onto the Rega before I try and make any real A/B comparisons. In all the comparisons he listened to, he greatly favored the sound of the Rega. For each recording he said that the Rega sounds more like the "actual album". So since I did get the Rega of audiogon.com, I lose nothing in keeping it for a few more weeks. As I continue to listen to it, I think there's a lot of truth in my friend's assessment of the situation. Anyway, thanks again for the advice.