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1 hour ago, Shakeydeal said:
Understood. Most people aren't using McIntosh receivers............😁
I think it’s about the most underrated thing McIntosh makes. I’ve heard just about any McIntosh separate you can think of at my dealer’s showroom. (They don’t have the 901s or the 2KWs and I wouldn’t spend that much anyway). If the separates sounded better I would have purchased them. I swear “separates-or-bust” people either sell stereo equipment or already own separates 🤣.
That being said, I really want an MP1100, a Transrotor Zet3, and a Kiseki Purple Heart. But I’m not going to do it. I’m about $13K into gear, $2K into cables, and $6K into the speakers. It’s time to stop and enjoy. If it’s considered a bagging groceries until I get a real job type of stereo to audiophiles I’m okay with that. I’d love to hear their system, I suppose. (I bet mine sounds as good or better 😜)
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7 minutes ago, Shakeydeal said:
Let's dissect the receiver.
A preamplifier
A tuner
An amplifier
Usually some gimmicky signal processing
All in a package of, oh let's say 40 lbs. or so. (I'm being generous)
That's an awful lot of stuff crammed in a box and designed to meet a certain price point. Corners will be cut, you can bet your azz on that.
Not saying it doesn't sound good to you. But you can't compare other systems in other rooms to what you hear in your room. You have to hear YOUR receiver against other equipment in the same room with the same supporting cast. Anything else is just shooting in the dark.
The take away here? A high quality integrated amp, or better yet, separate amp/preamp combo will outperform a receiver in the vast majority of scenarios. Receivers are like bagging groceries. You do it when you are starting out until you can get a real job. 😆
https://www.stereophile.com/content/mcintosh-mac7200-stereo-receiverMine is almost double that weight. I think it sounds good. My fist next to the autoformer for size comparison. Link to Stereophile magazine review above. 🤷♂️
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On 6/14/2021 at 4:18 AM, Shakeydeal said:
If I were going to ditch anything it would be the receiver. A high quality preamp can be a great addition to a system. A receiver does nothing but drag the whole show down.
People always hating on receivers 😜. I’ve heard plenty of nice systems with separates and, IMO, my stereo receiver to Cornwall IV system sounds as good or better 🤷♂️. It’s just an integrated amp w/a tuner attached-
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Upscale Audio is how i purchased these walnuts. They’re ridiculously good. Buy em!
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On 5/2/2021 at 8:32 PM, Fido said:
My System is pretty basic. It starts with my Forte IVs connected to my Primaluna EVO 400 Integrated amp with KT150 Power tubes and Brimar Preamp tubes. Connected to the EVO 400 is my Yamaha AVR for TV and movie viewing using the HT bypass of the 400. I have a Klipsch 450 C as my Center channel in my cabinet and a pair of Forte 1s as my surround sound speakers next to my seating position. Under the EVO 400 is my HSU VTF-3 MK5 HP Subwoofer that goes down to 18 HZ and hits those deep octaves hard in my fairly small living room. Next to my Forte IV on the other side I have a Bluesound Node 2i on top of a Denefrips Pontus RDR Dac. For my analog setup I switch between a classic Dual 1229 with a V15 type III Cartridge and a Technics 1200 with an equally great sounding Denon MC cartridge the DL-110. I play these thru a Shannon Parks Puffin phono preamp and that piece is fantastic. Makes most every record sound like it is pristine. Truly a fantastic DSP inspired phono preamp. I enjoy my audio system and almost everything I have tried the past few years has increased the enjoyment of listening to it.
It’s not basic, it’s awesome! I really want to hear a PrimaLuna sometime. -
This Yamaha CR-1020 is the heart of my vintage Cornwall setup. I am the second owner. I took it into a local stereo shop last year to have some white LEDs installed since the bulbs had burned out. They also brought it into spec and gave it a good cleaning. I love the sound and the looks...and also the sharp, heavy clicks the switches and dials make haha! Even the volume and tuner knobs have a heavy, satisfying feel to them when you turn them. Good times!
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Same system. Same wall. 3 years ago. Same amount of joy. Just change a lil as I can.
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I accept any ridicule, but I love them and they sound amazing 😜 *yes I removed the metal coupler that comes attached to the speaker terminals after bi-wiring, just snapped a quick pic
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I’d love to see and read about your Klipsch setups! I think they’re all fantastic. I smile at how passionate you guys/gals are about your systems. We’re all the same in a way, price doesn’t matter, the music does, post it! Share it! $50 - $1,000,000 all fantastic.
Klipsch Cornwall IV walnut
McIntosh MAC 7200 stereo receiver
McIntosh MB50 streamer
MoFi UltraDeck turntable w MasterTracker cartridge
Furman Elite 15 PFI power conditioner
Cardas Clear Cygnus cables
McIntosh RS200 (other room, not pictured)
McIntosh RS100 (X2) (other room not pictured)
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1 hour ago, The Dude said:
I've always had thiat dilemma if I ever had the opportunity to buy new speakers. Luckily PHT helped make the decision when they only had one set of B stock left. Walnut it was and I love them. I think I would love the cherry just as much.
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Beautiful! What’s in the center? Heresy on its side?
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16 hours ago, Shakeydeal said:
This is the best pic I have at the moment. I could take some better pics of the side walls when I get home later. These are walnut.
Let’s see the side pics! And tell us about your system? Looks awesome!
PS is there a “show us your system” thread? I love looking at other people’s setups and reading the descriptions. Fifty bucks - 1 million bucks doesn’t matter, I think everyone’s system is special - would love to see them.
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My dealer has Black CW IVs and Cherry Heresy’s. Both look great. I think black looks good in a theater or if your rack/stand and gear is all black and silver. I remember having to ask the dealer if the heresy’s were cherry or walnut so not a gigantic difference unless they’re next to each other IMO. You can’t make a bad choice. All good looking, don’t overthink it. If your rack/entertainment center is wood, pick the closest color. If black, go black. You’re gonna love your CW IVs, happy listening 🤙
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Thank you. I honestly haven’t looked at the sides in about a year, so thanks for giving me an excuse. Just noticed the other side is even better on both of them. “Waterfall” matches better. 👍.
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My Walnut IVs
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6 hours ago, Shakeydeal said:
I have used both but settled in with Qobuz. I think the SQ is better than Tidal.
Shakey
I agree on Qobuz being awesome, but have not tried tidal. Have tried, Spotify, Qobuz, and Amazon HD. Amazon and Qobuz currently sound better than Spotify, but I enjoy using Spotify so much more than either that I only kept Spotify. Main reason being Spotify Connect. App on my McIntosh streamer sucks when it tries to Qobuz or Amazon HD. I am so damn excited for “Spotify HiFi” to come out later this year. Will finally have best of both worlds.
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51 minutes ago, RandyH000 said:
too bad you could'nt demo the khorns -----with the CW4 , it would have been fun to hear your impressions -
I would love that haha! Heresys on stands in the room next door, and LaScalas and “the Fives” (on stands, straddling an 85” LG) in the main open lobby/room. In the theater they had Star Wars going and it was rocking the place (they said they were going to have to figure out the drywall rattle - the joys of moving locations!). I poked my head in and saw a Tri-meter McIntosh amp but was very dark so no idea on speakers/subs.
The Fortes really were impressive, vocals as good as any in the room. Pic makes the room look smaller than it is. Definitely wasn’t fair to the Fortes for me to be 25-30’ away and 4’ off center.
I wish I could have A/Bd the SF and the BW. My experience went SF-Forte-CW-BW, so by the time we got to the BW my impression of the SF was gone. The BW 803 D3s had best bass and tweeter in the room...but they just don’t do it for me. Not sure how to explain it but almost too perfect and dry. My “favorite” would have come down to the CW or the SF, but with the Forte demo between them, I couldn’t A/B them either. This was my first time hearing Sonus Faber, I was very impressed with the sound and they were gorgeous.
Each rack had a B&W Formation Audio streamer on it being used as the source. ($700, lil silver box top right in main rack). It sounded great and I fully acknowledge that I fan boy’d/overpaid for my McIntosh MB50 streamer. This one sounds just as good for 1/3 the price. I have some powered wireless Mac speakers in other rooms that MB50 plays nicely with so no regrets, whatever 🤷♂️.
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Both great, can’t go wrong with either. The Fortes definitely had me smiling, they were great. Then they switched to the Cornwalls and they were greater, as they should be for the cost. The fortes were awesome but you could kind of separate the base, the mid, and the tweeter if you wanted to (I think this has a lot to do with the room being gigantic and I was at the back and slightly off center. I do NOT think this would be an issue in a home setting). The Cornwalls were everything that was great about the Fortes but more of it. Fuller? More present? Just a wall of music? I don’t know how to explain it. Seemed like the Cornwalls were doing their thing effortlessly. Most noticeably in the bass. They played the same song and the bass on the Forte couldn’t do what the Cornwall bass did. I never, ever listen that loud at home...but in that setting it was like listening to a punchy sub in a car for the Forte...but then with the Cornwall it sounded like an actual instrument (bass guitar) but was fuller, louder, and hit just as hard. Biggest difference was bass. Room was pretty crowded and huge, -my guess is, if I were to sit in the sweet spot of the fortes in smaller room it would have been closer. Like I said, BOTH great. *also not fair bc the Cornwalls had better placement in room that size, IMO. Sonus Fabers and the $17K B&Ws were pretty amazing too, and hooked to some better gear. Tonight was the soft opening of the bigger DTX in Lincoln, NE, and pics are from just one room of many. Great place if you’re ever near. They have all klipsch heritage except the Klipschorns - which I want to hear! Happy listening and like I said, cannot go wrong with either the Forte or the Cornwall.
*sorry pic of Klipsch stuff isn’t better! Was taken during the B&W demo...people to the left of me, same room, didn’t want to jump in the middle of demo for pics to the left haha
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Step 1: Buy Klipsch Heritage
Step 2: Put in corners of room. (This will make them toe in). (They’re about 12 ft apart but the vocals seem to come from center of amp).
Step 3: Enjoy
“The Winter of Mixed Drinks” by Frightened Rabbit tonight. Cornwall IVs, MAC 7200, MoFi UltraDeck w MasterTracker cartridge, Cardas Cygnus Cables, and Zipline Brewing’s Milk Stout. Cheers 🍻
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Still love ‘em. Streaming a high-resolution showcase playlist through Qobuz tonight at 24Bit-196kHz. Cornwall IVs are amazing. If they don’t make you smile, you have them setup wrong! Happy listening to you all! 🍻
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...they should make a grill order page that people can customize. Not when you order the speaker, that would be a logistical pain in the *** I’m sure. But the option to add different grills to existing speakers would be so cool.
vertical fibers - pick a color
horizontal fibers - pick a color (maybe limit this one to black, white, silver, or same color? Nah who cares, let people pick)badge - Klipsch block rectangle, Klipsch logo, or script
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Those look great! I wish there was a way to order different grills! I would totally get these, an old school black, and a dark green
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On 11/28/2020 at 5:45 PM, sunnysal said:
are you sure you are wired in phase for each driver? when I was experimenting with bi-amping and tri-amping my k-horns I had to be really careful about phase everywhere because when something was off I immediately lost the sense of depth and instrument position in space, once I got them all right everything jumped back into "focus". and the speakers disappeared. IMHO its worth the trouble to systematically try swapping phase on each connection and listen to the result even if you are sure each one is electrically in phase. It only takes a few minutes to switch a pair of wires and listen to the same passage over and over to hear the difference. just my two cents, your mileage may very, etc., etc. let us know how it all turns out. warm regards, Tony
They’re really dialed in. Though 12 feet apart the vocals just seem to come out of the top of the MAC7200 dead center. Funny enough I had a friend over recently who has a nice Heresy setup and first thing he said was, “Whoa they just disappear.” I would encourage everyone to try them in true corners, crossing in front of listening position 👍-
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On 11/24/2020 at 4:23 AM, mustang_flht said:
Hi @salbake
I see this very late and I do not know if you have already been informed, but you have to remove the straps with your Cardas dual wiring.
Your installation and your CW1 and CW 4 are 😍
Thanks for looking out! They were removed about 5 mins after photo. Saw some complaints on YouTube about binding posts being loose and this was the check immediately after unboxing in the middle of the room. If they were loose I thought this would prevent me from stabbing through as the fit on the bananas was really tight. Definitely can’t get behind them now to take a picture like this. Just wanted one pic of new speakers and new cables together. Damn, that was a GREAT day!!
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I really enjoy my MAC7200 w my Cornwall IVs. Tuner, DAC, MM phono, MC phono, their autoformers and 200 wpc if I ever want to change speakers to something not as sensitive as Klipsch heritage. I would also look at MA352 and MC275 if I were you.
*all are under your budget brand new
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Cornwall IV bi-amped needs to be out of phase according to manual? Huh?
in 2-Channel Home Audio
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A. This thread is way over my head, but I really enjoyed reading it.
B. Are my Cornwall IVs more valuable now as long as I hang onto the manual? “Rare misprint, limited run edition,”…..?? 🧐😜