Cantilope
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I am running an MC2205 which is 200 Watts. Its funny, I almost have the same question in reverse...
I have cranked mine up and have never been able to get it above 20 Watts per the meter as it just becomes too loud and the neighbors start texting the wife... I feel that I have an extra 180 untapped watts that I may never use. Mine speakers are a similar 103dB. I think I could/would be perfectly happy with a 50 or 100 watt Mac.
I will say I am very happy with my set up, I am looking at purchasing a second Mcintosh amp, just trying to figure if a smaller cheaper version (MC2105 or your MC2505) would suffice. Too bad we couldn't swap for a week... if your thinking of replacing your McIntosh with a newer class D, I can say I like my Mcintosh a lot better than both my Rotel and Sunfire class D monster amps.
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You must be a fellow home brewer. I can see your mash paddle and tun.
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http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=33627830&cat=&lpid=&search=klipsch&ad_cid=2
No Affiliation, however I am very close if you want me to take a look.
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Never looked at them that way
Henry, we love them. The Mcintosh stuff too...
Who cares what their name is... are they for sale?
Absolutely not.
Klipschtoris
I think this one is better than what we came up with...
Ours is the LaBellia sisters.
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So my wife and I have given these a nickname based on the design within the woodgrain patttern. Can you guess what it is?
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My Belle's are sun faded, they are Lacquered Rosewood. Any suggestions for fading? I'd love to have them look as good as the insides of the tops. I will not sand them though, they are in to good of shape for that, just unevenly faded a bit. I can live with it, but if there was an easy was to return them to the original color, id try it.
Personally, I'd try Liberon Black Bison paste wax, either neutral, or tinted. Some furniture restorers/conservators swear by this stuff.
After talking with the man who made the cabinets in my house I was re instructed that one can use Tung oil over lacquer as it is a "drying oil" just like lacquer as opposed to a "penetrating oil" like Watco or BLO. So maybe some Tung oil rubbed in would help your sun faded lacquer finish.
I did a light coat of Tung oil and they do look better, actually they look stunning. Can't say that it really got rid of any fading, but they were dry and needed it and its not as visible. If your curious Tung oil or China wood oil is an all natural drying oil obtained by pressing the seed from the nut of the tung tree (Vernicia fordii).
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I would like to try some Mc gear on the Forte I
I have recently joined the SS McIntosh world. I am very, very happy with the heritage and Mac marriage.
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My Belle's are sun faded, they are Lacquered Rosewood. Any suggestions for fading? I'd love to have them look as good as the insides of the tops. I will not sand them though, they are in to good of shape for that, just unevenly faded a bit. I can live with it, but if there was an easy was to return them to the original color, id try it.
For my Cornwalls, I have been using real, all natural Tung Oil with great success. I like it a lot better than lemon oil.
if you mean they have a laquer clear coat then a stain or watco/howards type oils will not do much if anything for them. the wood is sealed by the laquer & would need to be sanded to restain the wood. it might suck up a little color if the laquer is dried out but i wouldnt want to oil laquered or poly coated woods.
Looks like I'll try the doilies.
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This is just my opinion, but a horn loaded subwoofer goes very well with a horn loaded bass bin such as found on the La Scala, Belle, Khorn.
Since you are not running any of those, I too would agree, add a second SW-115.
However, my TubaHT manages to fill my entire unfinished basement with bass, I have never been as happy with any other sub as I am with this one. I have no regrets pushing my Sunfire Signature aside for it. I don't mix them either... just couldn't get it to sound right, so one or the other.
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My Belle's are sun faded, they are Lacquered Rosewood. Any suggestions for fading? I'd love to have them look as good as the insides of the tops. I will not sand them though, they are in to good of shape for that, just unevenly faded a bit. I can live with it, but if there was an easy was to return them to the original color, id try it.
For my Cornwalls, I have been using real, all natural Tung Oil with great success. I like it a lot better than lemon oil.
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I've finally come to the conclusion that the bass I crave can only be satisfied by an external sub.
I love my KLF-30's have had them since new, however... try them with a 24" THT.
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Not their final location, they sound fantastic. They are in better shape than I thought, they look brand new. These will go down in the basement at some point, I cannot believe how big they are next to my KLFs.
you think they sound good in that location just pull those KLF's out of the cubby holes and tuck the Belle back in there....I dare you!
Ill take that dare, it almost seems as if I had that entire fireplace built for a set of speakers...
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So I have had my way with these gals the last few days. I am ready to give them a bit of a review…
Let me start off by saying that I am new to the Horn Loaded bass world. It started back in August with the completion of my THT folded subwoofer. The whole reason I built it is because I had never heard one. I was very impressed and the research I did was absolutely true in the fact that the sound from a Horn Loaded Woofer is superior to that of a direct radiator. This led me to believe that I needed to go with a fully horn loaded speaker. Until this past weekend I had never heard a Belle, or a LaScala, or a Khorn. All my Klipsch experience had been with the KG series, the KLFs and the Cornwall.
So I now have these Belles downstairs where the Cornwalls were sitting. They are hooked to my Sunfire Amp, with the THT pulling in the sub 60 frequencies. I listened to Michel Jackson’s Thriller on DSD and the bass is indescribable. It is so tight and so in your stomach it feels like butterflies, like when I get nervous or anxious. I have never heard anything like it. It is like the bass is hard and hitting like a bat right to the gut. I can completely understand the statement that these are a little anemic in the bass, they are… the deep bass anyway, but coupled to a THT sub allowing the Belle to do what it does best the mid bass, they are spectacular.
I have swapped in my ALK Cornscala-wall networks for a trial to see how they sound. The stock AA do need some updating, but I may go the 2-way with a digital crossover route. The ALK has brought them to a new level, Al provided some advice on the attenuation of the drivers, and so far he is right on with his settings. (Love the accessibility of the Belle)
So in summary, these have fulfilled my needs and I am 100% happy with the bass and sub bass my system has. I believe it to be jaw dropping. If you have a LaScala or a Belle, get a THT to go with them it really is the missing link/octave. I think it is an unfair expectation for these Heritage speakers to go that low and do it correctly. Even the CWs benefited from the sub. I have a few sounds/noises within the these Belles that I don’t hear in my CWs, I’ll have to spend some time with them and see if I can figure out what it is. It might be a wire vibrating, or loose mounting screw, who knows, it is very subtle. Fortunately I have 4 of everything now and can swap drivers around pretty easily until I can figure it out. So far I am the only one to hear it. I also noticed a bunch of casting and irregularities in the mouth of the horn from the manufacturing process. It’s not even close to being round in there so I’ll rasp these out to be round as well, I know it made a difference on my CWs. Anyway I am in audio bliss now and for the first time in 38 years completely happy with how my system reproduces the Kick drum, in fact the whole drum kit…
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I do not grow my own hops. I have a friend that does, and actually skunked a few of my batches due to contamination. I stick to the packaged stuff, but only for that reason.
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Not their final location, they sound fantastic. They are in better shape than I thought, they look brand new. These will go down in the basement at some point, I cannot believe how big they are next to my KLFs.
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Either way.....Relax, Life's Too Short, Have a Homebrew!
I started with a kit, now I burn through 750-800 pounds of grain a year. But its hard to find good beer here... easier to make.
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These are very well taken care of, good luck. I regret not taking them with me.
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For my setup and lack of room treatments, an Audyssey Pro kit and license had a much better improvement in sound than what the Oppo 105d provided.
etc6849 - can you go into some detail about this and what is does? Is this room correction that I can add to an older pre-amp that lacks this technology? I'd love keep my old pre-amp if I can add Audyssey to it. I'll do some reading on the site, but I know very little about audyssey. This is great advice, thank you.
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I took some time this past weekend and removed the ti mids and the band pass from my KLFs. I don't feel like I have lost anything in anyway. I do believe the ti tweeter is a significant upgrade to the poly that came stock. No doubt there, however, I am curious how phenolic would sound in the tweeter vs the ti. If I was to do this all over and provide advice...
In the KLF upgrade to phenolic in the tweeter ($18 each), and leave the mids alone. Between the ti mids and the band pass, I am into this just shy of $300. My Cornwalls were $500 and a much better investment in my very humble opinion.
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Those Belles are absolutely beautiful - if the wife objects, throw her out! …….( or sell 'em to me…….the speakers, that is!)
Luckily I'll get to keep them both. I have been adding to my Klipsch collection since I was 18. (my first big boy check bought me my KG4.5s. Shows what my priorities were at that age, speakers before girls.) I already had the KLFs and the KGs when she came along, she knew what she was getting into... poor thing.
However the last year has been pretty bad, Cornwall's, KG 1.5 and KG 2.5 and now this...
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My 8 year old son loved the last 3 but didn't care to see the Jedi children killed by Vader. He says for younger kids, skip 1-3, nothing to see here move along.
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Pretty sure its an S = 1978
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Thanks all, I think I am in love. I'll get them settled in and get some photos.
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Henry, I have sent you a PM.
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Monster Power HTS 3600/AVS 2000 usefulness
in 2-Channel Home Audio
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Initial justification: About a dozen years ago I lived in a house built in the early 50's. I built a home theater using my Sunfire separates, KLFs and a pioneer elite TV. We started having the lights flicker and dim pretty regularly whenever we had a large electrical load somewhere in the house. It ended up getting worse and worse. When the bass would hit the lights would flicker. Our refrigerator motor burned out as did our drier (maybe unrelated).
I ended up having the house rewired and a new larger service brought in, however this was not the problem. A contributor but not the main issue. I know it was affecting my music. So I purchased these units, a Monster Power HTS 3600/AVS 2000. Totally fixed the problem and I must say worked like a charm. Fixed the lights and bass issue and you could hear and see the voltage being rectified if the numbers where to be believed. Apparently the pole mounted transformer in the yard was approaching 60 years old and the load from our homes pulling harder than ever. It eventually went south, but it took a few years.
Here we are now; we live in a new home with underground power and new infrastructure. I know that these units helped protect my equipment and have certainly paid for themselves with my particular situation at the time.
The 3600 is a “filter” I have always looked at is a big power strip with a staggered turn on.
The 2000 is a voltage regulator, which leveled out the voltage drops that the house experienced. We would have swings from 99 volts to 144 and I got exactly 120 on the backside.
Do I still run these, is it snake oil? I read that McIntosh actually frown on this sort of thing… What is the consensus here? What about in a 2-channel system? They do put out a bit of heat so I know they are costing me money to run. Been running on all the time for a dozen years, so one of the better MP products I have used. Does it help or hurt? Also there is no A/B testing its too difficult moving them in and out. Plus I admit I might not be able to hear it.
FWIW, I do run 20 amp single runs from my plugs to breakers. I also can understand the point of McIntosh that they say a well designed amp would have it's own protection.