asatyss Posted July 12, 2001 Share Posted July 12, 2001 I just got a new tv last night, and I have run into a problem with my speakers being too close to the tv and their magnetic fields are interrupting the picture on the tv. I have no way to push my speakers any further away from the tv, so I am forced to find another way to deal with this problem. I have a pair of KLF 10's and a 36 inch Sony WEGA tv. I have been reading that it might be possible to put some type of foil bteween the speakers and the tv which would reduce the fields. I was wondering if anyone had any good ideas on how to fix this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Favog Posted July 12, 2001 Share Posted July 12, 2001 Give Klipsch a call and ask Trey Cannon for "bucking magnets" for KLF-10's @ 1-800-KLIPSCH. Good luck! ------------------ Tom KLF-20 Mahogany McIntosh C33 Rotel RB-1080 Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge Ortofon VMS-30 mkII Cartridge Stanton 999SS Cartridge Carver TL-3100 CD Yamaha K-1020 Cassette dbx 1231 EQ H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer Monster Interlink 400mk II Monster Interlink 300 mk II Studio Tech U-48RW Cabinet Monster Power HTS-5000 Original 12ga. Monster Cable Enough empty boxes for a fire hazard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asatyss Posted July 12, 2001 Author Share Posted July 12, 2001 This may be a dumb question, but who is Trey Cannon, and why should I ask him? Do I just need to ask for him, when I get through on 1-800-KLIPSCH or what? Thanks for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asatyss Posted July 12, 2001 Author Share Posted July 12, 2001 with these bucking magnets, am I going to have to open my speakers up? If possible, I would like to be able to find a solution without having to open them up. I don't really know how possible this is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avman Posted July 12, 2001 Share Posted July 12, 2001 call the #. i put them on a friend's klf 20's and they work. trey may become your best friend. avman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Favog Posted July 12, 2001 Share Posted July 12, 2001 Trey is in "Technical Support". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Garrison Posted July 13, 2001 Share Posted July 13, 2001 asatyss, Yes, to use the bucking magnets you have to "open up" the speakers, but this is about the least invasive type of "opening up" there is. You lay the speakers on their backs, unscrew the woofers from the front panel, lay them on top of the front panel, (you don't need to disconnect any wires or anything, there's plenty of slack), glue the bucking magnets on the back of the woofer magnets (you have to orient them correctly, instructions are included with the magnets), and screw them back in. Should take, like, 5 minutes per speaker. You've never opened them up? My hat's off to you... - I've NEVER been able to own a pair of speakers for more than, oh, a few milliseconds without giving in to the urge to open 'em up and look inside, just out of curiosity... Ray ------------------ Music is art Audio is engineering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Garrison Posted July 13, 2001 Share Posted July 13, 2001 ... and as far as the question about using some type of foil or something between the speakers and the TeeVee, there is something called "Mu Metel" which you can buy in sheets, which if placed between the speakers and TeeVee MIGHT eliminate the interference, but it (a) is VERY VERY expensive, ( is awful damn ugly, © is hard to find a vendor who will sell it in lots of less than a few hundred pounds at a time, (d) comes with no guarentee that it will do anything at all to help, and (e) if you reposition the speakers / TeeVee at all, you may find that sheets of Mu Metal that had fixed the problem in location A don't do anything at all in location B. You can get info on Mu Metal and other magnetic sheilding products at: http://www.advancemag.com/ I'd go with the bucking magnets. Ray ------------------ Music is art Audio is engineering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asatyss Posted July 13, 2001 Author Share Posted July 13, 2001 I called and ordered the magnets. They should be here soon. Thanks for all of your help. Asa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewzter Posted July 13, 2001 Share Posted July 13, 2001 can i use these magnets on my dbx's? are the ones from klipsch specifically designed for klipsch speakers? if so, where else can I find them for mine? ------------------ Front: dbx Soundfield V - 15" woofer, 8" mid, ribbon tweet, 3.25" mid & dome tweet on top Center: KLF C7 Rear Surround: Polk f/x bipole/dipole Amp: Yamaha RX-V990 100x3; 25x2 DVD: Yamaha DVD S795 (built-in DD Processor) CD: Yamaha CDC 575 5-Disc VCR: Toshiba M752 6-head TV: Mitsubishi 40" Tube DirecTV Sony Playstation w/ s-vid & RCA to V990 for awesome gaming picture & sound! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mace Posted July 13, 2001 Share Posted July 13, 2001 Hello, Can these bucking magnets be used on the KLF-30's?? I too have limited space and would like to put the speakers a tad closer to the TV. Thanks! Mace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Favog Posted July 13, 2001 Share Posted July 13, 2001 Yes, these type of magnets are available for the 30's as well. I think it's a different order number though. ------------------ Tom KLF-20 Mahogany McIntosh C33 Rotel RB-1080 Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge Ortofon VMS-30 mkII Cartridge Stanton 999SS Cartridge Carver TL-3100 CD Yamaha K-1020 Cassette dbx 1231 EQ H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer Monster Interlink 400mk II Monster Interlink 300 mk II Studio Tech U-48RW Cabinet Monster Power HTS-5000 Original 12ga. Monster Cable Enough empty boxes for a fire hazard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted July 13, 2001 Share Posted July 13, 2001 yep, put one on every driver of the klf-30s. buy the instant epoxy from home depot or such. i'd allow about 30 min dryin time. solved the prob w/ the sony trinitron. good luck ------------------ Klipsch KLF 30 (front), KLF C-7, Cornwall I (rear) Velodyne HGS-18 sub woofer Monsterbass 400 sub interconnect & Monster CX-2 biwire & Z-12 cable Marantz SR-8000 receiver Sony DVP-C650D 5-disk cd/dvd player Sony Trinitron 27" stereo tv Toshiba hi-fi stereo vcr Technics dual cassette deck Scientific Atlanta Explorer 2000 digital cable box Boa's Listenin Lounge: Klipsch RF-3 (front), RC-3, cheap little Technics (rear) Monster MCX Biwires Sony STR-DE935 a/v receiver Kenwood KR-9600 AM/FM stereo receiver (vintage 1975) Russound AB-2 receiver switch to RF-3 Teac PD-D1200 5-disk cd changer Technics SL-1950 turntable/AT LS500 cartridge Sega Genesis game player Sub: None yet rock on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mace Posted July 13, 2001 Share Posted July 13, 2001 Thanks for the info! Question: How do these bucking magnets work (principle/theory of operation)?? Do they affect the speakers' sound at all?? Thanks, Mace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mace Posted July 13, 2001 Share Posted July 13, 2001 Thanks for the info! Question: How do these bucking magnets work (principle/theory of operation)?? Do they affect the speakers' sound at all?? Are 'bucking magnets' normally used to magnetically shield speakers or is it normally done with some sort of metal inside the speaker cabinet (i.e., how are the RF's shielded) ?? Thanks, Mace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted July 13, 2001 Share Posted July 13, 2001 by putting the b. magnets on the speaker magnets w/ repeling polarity (like north to north) it neutralizes to some degree the projecting magnetic field from the driver's mag. i've heard they add 2db to the woofs whereas the shields take away 2db. ------------------ Klipsch KLF 30 (front), KLF C-7, Cornwall I (rear) Velodyne HGS-18 sub woofer Monsterbass 400 sub interconnect & Monster CX-2 biwire & Z-12 cable Marantz SR-8000 receiver Sony DVP-C650D 5-disk cd/dvd player Sony Trinitron 27" stereo tv Toshiba hi-fi stereo vcr Technics dual cassette deck Scientific Atlanta Explorer 2000 digital cable box Boa's Listenin Lounge: Klipsch RF-3 (front), RC-3, cheap little Technics (rear) Monster MCX Biwires Sony STR-DE935 a/v receiver Kenwood KR-9600 AM/FM stereo receiver (vintage 1975) Russound AB-2 receiver switch to RF-3 Teac PD-D1200 5-disk cd changer Technics SL-1950 turntable/AT LS500 cartridge Sega Genesis game player Sub: None yet rock on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BobG Posted July 14, 2001 Share Posted July 14, 2001 In the case where the driver is being designed with shielding, both bucking magnets and shield cups are used. One gets rid of field fore and aft while the other deals with fields more laterally. Depending on the specifics of the driver's magnetic design, the parts can either add or drop driver sensitivity by a little. Less than from rear wall proximity so don't lose sleep over it. Legends are probably the last all-new line from Klipsch without shielding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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