RTTR Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 So... Does anyone have any pictures of the Sub-12 driver, amp or the inside of the enclosure? Just wondering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 No, but I'd be happy to take some for you. C'mon Klipsch, give a new guy a chance! Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Speaking of pics of the woofer,I asked Klipsch to include them for all subs in the products section.There is a thread in the GENERAL FORUM,you can ask for it,Amy is gathering feedback from Klipschers to improve the site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTTR Posted February 17, 2006 Author Share Posted February 17, 2006 No, but I'd be happy to take some for you. C'mon Klipsch, give a new guy a chance! Michael It would be great if you could take some pics. Do you have a Sub-12? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 No but I'm about 20 minutes from Klipsch World Headquarters where nearly every speaker is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTTR Posted February 18, 2006 Author Share Posted February 18, 2006 No but I'm about 20 minutes from Klipsch World Headquarters where nearly every speaker is! That's pretty sweet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 I have one sitting 6 feet away from me right now. I would hate to crack it open (they do use some sealer on the woofer) just because. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTTR Posted February 20, 2006 Author Share Posted February 20, 2006 I probably should have added that I'd like to see some internal pictures cause I can't grasp the fact that the Sub-12 only weighs a mear 40lbs, similar subs it's size weigh upwards towards 70lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 For one, it uses a digital amp - which means the transformer is MUCH smaller and that could be 10+ pounds right there. Also, I would guess Klipsch 'engineered' the cabinet, as in, they used lighter material, but took proper steps to ensure it was still sound and stable. That could be 10, 20+ pounds there. Also, because it is sold in Best Buy and is a 'mass market' product, every pound lighter it is will manifest itself as lower costs - spread that over thousands of subs (they will sell tens of thousands of them) and thats a lot of money. Honestly, I am surprised it is as heavy as it is. When I got mine, the box felt like it was full of books! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 I probably should have added that I'd like to see some internal pictures cause I can't grasp the fact that the Sub-12 only weighs a mear 40lbs, similar subs it's size weigh upwards towards 70lbs. As was said the switching transformerless BASH amps lack the heavy transformer,the big heatsinks this translates into many lbs saved,a fast 10-12lbs right here. Second you have an MDF box that does not require bracing and is quite,light.I would estimate its weights at around 24lbs. You have the woofer that may weigh in at 10-12lbs,you do not need a 40lbs magnetic motor structure here.A well designed 8-10lbs motor structure can move a 15" woofer cone with ease. So where do you need the weight? Also HDF box will weigh alot more and give very little gain over MDF when used in a sub cabinet that is optimised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTTR Posted February 21, 2006 Author Share Posted February 21, 2006 I probably should have added that I'd like to see some internal pictures cause I can't grasp the fact that the Sub-12 only weighs a mear 40lbs, similar subs it's size weigh upwards towards 70lbs. As was said the switching transformerless BASH amps lack the heavy transformer,the big heatsinks this translates into many lbs saved,a fast 10-12lbs right here. Second you have an MDF box that does not require bracing and is quite,light.I would estimate its weights at around 24lbs. You have the woofer that may weigh in at 10-12lbs,you do not need a 40lbs magnetic motor structure here.A well designed 8-10lbs motor structure can move a 15" woofer cone with ease. So where do you need the weight? Also HDF box will weigh alot more and give very little gain over MDF when used in a sub cabinet that is optimised. You are amazing EAR, thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 RTTR, I know I should have a statue carved to my image standing at the Klipsch headquarters in Hope. [:$] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot125 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 RTTR, I know I should have a statue carved to my image standing at the Klipsch headquarters in Hope. [:$] Yes, and the engraving should read: "Dedicated to the humblest man alive" [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 LOL! You know you have 'made it' in life when you have a statue made in your image! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay481985 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 So where do you need the weight? Also HDF box will weigh alot more and give very little gain over MDF when used in a sub cabinet that is optimised. Ummm what is this HDF? HDF is primarily for roofing of a different material think spoonge like to use as insulation. There was once HDF by medite but it was alot more for the price for 1.5 times the weight. Think a 4X4X1 board costing 100 dollars. I believe it weighed 67 pounds per square foot as compared to 52-55 for mdf. Also it resisted tearout marginally better then mdf. But it cost 10 Times the price! it is not economical nor actually better. Also they stopped making it for lack of interest. MDF is fine except watch out for homedepot trying to pass off fiberboard (think the brown board with holes to use as shelves) as mdf. That I seen is not mdf but actually more cardboard like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay481985 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 oh and to add to that, pretty much ever sub around uses mdf. If not for say the Krell Master Reference Subwoofer which uses 1 inch thick Aluminum. Even the Wilsoin Audio XS does not use the X Material it is so critically acclaimed to due to the cost per size of that massive enclosure. That enclosure is made of MDF. I really cannot think of any other subwoofer that utilizes any other material other than one off DIY subs that may use cement or marble. Of wait The svs and similiar use sonotube or a paper material but that is all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 What if you got a old tank and used the entry hole to mount a 18" woofer? You could also put a little Tang Band woofer at the end of the barrel[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 What if you got a old tank and used the entry hole to mount a 18" woofer? You could also put a little Tang Band woofer at the end of the barrel[] Or you could use a barrel from a main battleship and mount a 18" woofer.There is no stronger "tube",a gun barrel has both incredible resistance to pressure,heat and would be THE choice for a super SVS tube sub.Witha Krell designed and manufactured amp. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 The dual ship guns outside the Imperial War Museum would be ideal. IIRC, they are 18" diameter and some of the largest guns ever built. They have a large internal volume. However, you are screwed if you need to drill holes for ANYTHING!!! Like 6" thick steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay481985 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 drilling holes is easy, use cobalt or tungstan drill bits and taps.... both will tear through steel like a hot knife to butter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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