nicholtl

Haha yeah I noticed you were a young buck too. Quite a gamer as well I see...gamecube and xbox (xbox rules). Well if you guys ever get into car audio, give me a holler I can give you a couple pointers in that department.

Ahh, the Canadian dollar he's referring to. RF - where did you get that piece of art above your TV? It's pretty dope. What does it mean?

Don't forget, age is just a measure of time and time is just a creation of man.

Ahh, then I am like one of your friends. I started audio at 16 too with my car. Got into home theater once I hit college 4 years ago. Watch out...you might go through the complete opposite progression!

You're very right about the speakers getting boomy, muddy, and unnatural sounding when trying to reproduce such low range frequencies. Subs are made to reproduce only low frequencies so by adding one and setting it at 80hz or 100hz, you're effectively taking the strain off your mains which will allow them to concentrate on simply the mids and highs. You just want to set the sub freq high enough to they blend seamlessly with your mains...and I"m suggesting 100hz because even at 80hz, the RF-15's might struggle a bit to hit that low and still sound natural. Sorry for the confusion, I don't own the RW-12...I have the SVS PB2+. But the principle is the same. Although the Rf-15's respond down to the mid 40hz range (as do my RF-7's), I never make them hit that low. Ever. They simply don't sound right. I've never heard of the one-octave rule, but for all I know it might be accurate. I just know that cutting the speakers off at 100hz, and letting the sub woofer take over at that point works for me, and generally offers quite pleasing results for most. Even if you were a strict 2-channel music listener, the RF-15's would definitely benefit from the use of a properly calibrated sub. To do this, set the cutoff freq on your receiver (80hz, 100hz, etc.), and then either disable the frequency control on the RW-12 completely (that is, if it has an override switch), or just set it to as high a freqency as possible, so as to allow for headroom before the receiver electronically cuts it off. I know for a fact I'm not speaking eloquently here, most likely far too verbose, so if you have no clue what I'm talking about (haha) I hope one of the older, wiser gentlemen here can explain more succinctly.

How about Hawaii? Not necessarily Oahu, but perhaps Molokai, Lanai, or the Big Island (also known as the island of Hawaii). Few places are as beautiful and serene as those. Perhaps the Bahamas come close. Or if you want to do something completely out of the ordinary, how about somewhere that isn't usually in the list of honeymoon places? Somewhere in Europe? Athens? London? Spain? Or Asia? Hong Kong? Singapore (cleanest place on earth)? Dunno, just throwing out whatever comes to my head.

I set my crossover at 100hz, but I guess it's best to experiment and see where the sub picks up best. Not sure how low the freq. response is for the RF-15's, but 80hz (which are THX standards) might be a tad too low and require the RF-15's to work harder than they need to be. You're lucky to have a dad who knows his stuff. My parents own really crappy stereo equipment. I only became interested in home theater after I started fixing up my SUV's sound system.

---------------- On 2/13/2004 2:00:38 PM arthurs wrote: hey nicholt, do you experience the discs running ultra hot in your Denon 3800? I have one in it's box in the closet that I'm thinking about keeping for my bedroom setup, but remember it making the discs blazing hot. trying to figure out if that's normal or I need to have it looked at. thanks. ---------------- Umm...sometimes it was decently warm, never hot though. Definitely not blazing hot haha. If it's not the ventilation problem, perhaps your 3800 is an older (as in pre-september 2002) model, which exhibited numerous problems as over heating, laser pickup skips, and worst of all - the chroma bug.

Yeah, cause no matter how cool looking the gear is, if it doesn't sound as good as the not-so-great looking but oh-so-sweet sounding piece of equipment you were auditioning it against, you'll eventually realize you can only stare at your equipment for so long before you hate it. And Arthurs, I just can't get over how insanely awesome your system is. Krell and B&W. That would be my heaven.

It is enough to keep up with the biggest of them speakers. I think anything over the RW-12 will drown out your RF-15's. Oh, and I must say for someone on a "high school budget," you're doing pretty damn well. No 16 year old I ever knew had anything more than an all-in-one table top system.

Or Bose.

First off, you'd get many more responses in the promedia section of this forum where the computer whizzes hang out. However, I own the promedia 2.1's, and my roommate owns the logitech Z-5300's. We both agree that mine sound better. Less distortion at high levels, and even at lower volumes the promedia's are just clearer and sweeter sounding.

Where do you live exactly? Although 2 hours is not a short drive by any means, some guys on here have had it way worse. They've driven over 5 hours with nothing but a buddy and a van to get their khorns. I think there is a search option on this site that might help you locate an authorized dealer closest to you. You can also try going online, but that's always sketchy. As for which speaker to get...well obviously the RF-7 is a better speaker, but if you're aiming for a pair of mains PLUS a center, and all for under $2000, I think the best you can squeeze are the RF-5's and an RC-7, and you'd still have to bargain to get it all in there. If it's at all possible for you to bite the bullet a little more and get the RF-7's, then not only will you not have to buy new speakers for a very, very long time (possibly never), but you can also live with the satisfaction that you've gone as high as it gets in the reference line. But hey, both speakers look damn sexy from whatever way, light, or angle you look at them. PS - interesting name, by the way.

---------------- On 2/13/2004 10:19:35 AM BBB wrote: Soooooooooo some of the most knowledgeable members on this forum that have had experience listening to both Klipsch and Def Tech speakers, for comparison purposes, GAVE their answers. What else do you want? Are we to qualify every sentence we write concerning a preference we may have for one speaker over another with a list of facts and benchmark figures in order to change someone elses opinion about a product that they already dropped a bunch of money into? Sounds like a waste of time to me. I come here to have fun and talk with fellow Klipsch owners not to argue with someone who throws their 2 cents in because they were told to. So go back to the person that told you to throw in your 2 cents and tell them just what you think. That were a bunch of people with some strong, unfounded opinions, and some very naive ideas. Satisfied? ---------------- You took the words right out of my mouth. RF, it's obvious you enjoy Def Tech more than most members on this forum. That's cool. Most don't. I don't. That's the bottom line, so why not leave it at that? Case closed. Court adjourned.

hahaha that is hilarious and it seems quite true! I wonder what age it will be when that all generally starts becoming true. I figure I have at the very least, 10 years to go. Please God let it be more!!!

I guess this explains why every other page in every other home theater magazine is a Definitive Technology ad (usually that double page blue one). It's probably the only way they are going to get their name around since word-of-mouth sure isn't in their favor.

How's college going?

Sure, if the computer doesn't come with RCA line outs (which most don't) then you can upgrade your rig's sound card which should provide them. If you have a custom built computer or one of the new Mac G5's, you will have a digital toslink output which will be even better. The sound quality should be as good as if you hooked up any other component via analog RCAs or an optical out.

I'm so envious of you. If I was to get one bike, that would be it. With that speed and off-the-line acceleration, you essentially know what it's like to ride in a Lamborghini Murcielago or the new Ford GT. But it's better because on a bike, you feel that raw, untamed, monstrously ultimate power between you legs...

---------------- On 2/7/2004 12:17:45 AM gpbusa wrote: And the "busa" is short for Hayabusa... A slightly fast Suzuki sportbike that I ride whenever I get a chance. ---------------- You own a hayabusa? Can I be your new best friend? How's it feel to go from 0-60 in what, 3.3 seconds?

To me it's all about the sound quality, no contest. The gear can look as amazing and flashy as can be, it can cost an arm and a leg, it can "oooh" and "ahhh" friends, but if, at the end of the day, I can't close my eyes and have it feel like source music, then it's all a waste.

Hahaha, how imaginative and visual. But I'm surprised, Scott, about how you think the RF-7's sounded harsh with your 49Txi? No doubt that sounds sweeter than when I had my RF-7's with my 45Tx, but I thought it sounded great. But then, with the Parasound Halo gear, it is like you said...on a hot water bottle on top of a down comforter on top of a heated king size water bed, with a hot girl next to me.

Holy crud, I didn't realize how big Khorns were until I saw your pic. Is it true that you can only buy them second-hand now? I'd want a couple pairs, but I'm always skeptical of buying second hand anything.

27 is still pretty young to have all that drool-worthy equipment.

I'm not sure if the Denon has automatic calibration like Pioneer's MCACC, but I'm sure you can manually go in and adjust all speaker frequency levels to your liking (SPL meter might be handy here). This can make a world of difference.