Ki Choi

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Hi Travis: Here it is: http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww38/KiChoi/Audio/Tape%20Club%20of%20the%20Northwest/John_Eargle.jpg Ki

Hi Guys: It would be good to share the historic recording with the forum members who would appreciate the context and content. However, I am not sure about the copy rights, and if it is allowable from Klipsch Company's point of view to distribute the material without their consent. Although we have no commercial interests in distributing the recording, I would like to hear some guidelines. As mentioned, the file is in raw DSD5.6. It can be downsampled to lower resolution formats such as DSD2.8, 24/96 or 16/44, etc. While we wait for answers on if we can share the recording, please send me an email with your format preferences.

Hi Travis: Thanks for the link. I thought it was appropriate to share the Klipsch tape experience here and hopefully get more Khorn users to try tapes. Playing the tape through the Studer A820 -> Manley Reference Preamp -> Bryston 7BSST2s -> Maggie 20.1 and later Khorns (stock), we didn't hear any abnormalities in levels and bass responses. I was also dubbing the fragile tape to anther machine and was watching the levels very closely. Dr. Phillip Chance, who brought over the tape had purchased it on eBay I believe but was afraid to play it multiple time on his Ampex 351 machine which is a beast...to say the least. The tape running at 15ips and the sound was awesome even with the tape hiss.

Hi Greg: It seems to me from the photo, the Studer A820 you have is a two track 1/2" machine. I have both 1/4" and 1/2" two track Studer A820s and few other studio master recorders. Playing master/dub tapes on Studer through Khorns is very special. Yes, the Studer A820 is probably the most flexible but at the same time the most complex reel to reel machine ever produced in my opinion. The 1/4" Studer A810 that is smaller and shares same audio electronics with A820 and it is very popular model to audiophiles these days. Let me know if you want to learn more about the Studer recorders.

Rich Brown told me that he thought there were less than 10 ever produced for Klipsch sales force and wasn't meant to be distributed as a product. Based on the sound quality of the tape, PWK must have sold quite a few pairs of Klipsch speakers. It is amazing sound now but think of people's reactions in 1957 when they first heard the organ bass pedal notes flapping their pant legs through the Khors... I know I would have lost my bladder control if I were there...

Hi Jay: Happy to be here and I am playing the Khorns again. It was the actual Klipsch demo tape that was being played on A820 when the photos were taken. We were giggling like little girls as Rich Brown explained how rare the tape was. The tape came in a 7" reel and only had ~15 min worth of awesome organ music playing at 15 ips. It was so fragile, I had to library wind it on a 10" metal reel before we got to play it. As you can see in one of the photos, I also dubed on to a A810 using RMG911 tape and also as a DSD 5.6 file. Ki Ki

Hi Steve: With all due respect, I disagree with you. There are many gems to be found in commercially prerecorded tapes that sound as good (or better) than the same recordings released on LPs. Frank Sinatra's Live at Sands and Harry Belafonte's At Carnegie Hall come to mind... These are four track tapes. The Frank Sinatra is at only 3.75 ips speed even...and yet they are stunningly good. Ki

Hi Larry: The Studer analog tape recorders are no longer made or supported. However, there are still large number of Studer master recorders at studios and homes of few people. Prices of Studers can vary very widely depending on its conditions but still pretty pricey in comparision to some of the other recorders. I'll try to dig up the photos of the tapeheads in our area. Ki

Hi Mike: It will be good to hear from you. Ki

We had few of the hardcore tapeheads in Pacific northwest get togther at my place to hear the rare Klipsch tape played on a Studer A820 machine. http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww38/KiChoi/Audio/Tape%20Club%20of%20the%20Northwest/DSC_1268.jpg http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww38/KiChoi/Audio/Tape%20Club%20of%20the%20Northwest/Tape_details.jpg http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww38/KiChoi/Audio/Tape%20Club%20of%20the%20Northwest/DSC_1269.jpg the tape belongs to Dr. Phillip Chance who is operatin the machine. Let me know if you want to see more. Ki

Hi CigarBum: There are many horror stories on different tape forums of people buying a tape machine off of eBay for very low price and end up spending real money to get it to work properly. If you can find one on your local Craigslist that you can go and test, it would be the best. When you get ready, send me an email, I will give you few pointers on what to look for in a good tape machine and what to avoid. Ki

Hi JJK: Some of the modern tapes (ATR or RMG...) played at normal volumes, the tape "hiss" is not an issue based on my experience. Matter of fact Dolby or other noise reduction system is not needed either. YMMV Ki

Hi Cigarbum: Let me say ... hopefully without starting a flame war... if you like the sound of properly set up LP in you system, you will like the sound of R2R. It's more than just cool looks of big reels turning... Try this link: http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showthread.php?220-Reel-To-Reel-vs-Hrx-files-vs-Vinyl With few more than what you had budgeted, you can buy an Otari MX5050BII 2 recorder (hopefully from one of your local home recording studios than from a radio stations), and search for pre-recorded 2 track tapes on eBay. Ki

Thanks for the info guys. I tought about getting a Leak 20 for my Khorn hoping it was the Paul's favorite tube amp. Fortunately, I see an amp that might be a Marantz 8B behind the McIntosh 100. It's been a while my 8B got to drive the Khorn. Ki

Was it a Brooks...or Leak...? What was the model number? Thanks, Ki

It's good to know the old TD124 still making beautiful music for you. My main turntable now is the Oracle Delphi Mk IV with a SME 309 arm and Denon 103R. I am happy with the setup. Ki

Hi Mike: It's good hear from you. My day job had been tough - spending more time out of town than ever but I still find time to play music. I got into collecting and playing with R2R machines lately. It's bee a lot of fun. Hope you are doing well also. Ki

Thanks for your kind words, James. It was my pleasure to deal with you. Hope the TD124 gets to play many more LPs than it had done at my house. Ki

Hi Don: What did you use for the three-way electronic Xover? Thanks, Ki

Thanks Pat for the info. It seem I can get one pair of Jub bass bins for $4600 from Klipsch directly. I'll do a pre-summer sale of some of my audio toys and get them eventually. Ki

Tried many electronic crossovers - Bryston 10B, 10B sub, and others. But to my ears, the HSU Research High-End Electronics Crossover (~$450 list) to be the most transparent. It also has slight bass EQ around 40 to 50Hz to overcome my room suck-out in the region. The Hsu markets their own crossover modules up to 150Hz for use with their subs but the design can support up to ~800Hz (Jubilee...someday.;-)) in two way set up. I will post some photos hopefuly over the weekend. Ki

One of the most satisfying bass I have ever had in my room was when I used the Khorn bass bins as subs with 51Hz LP electronics crossover and 200W SS amps to play on top of the full range B&W N800s. The set up really showed what it means to have full range bass along with pant-leg-flapping boogie factor... Now, I will be trying the same crossover LP at 390Hz to drive the Khorn bass bins and HP at 390Hz (24dB/Oct) feeding the exsiting BEC AA for the ALK Trachorn mids and CP-25 tweeters. I will know if it's going to work for me or not in due time but thought to ask the experts if I should be aware of any possible pit falls. The next experiment will be to drive the bass bins and Quad ESL-63s LP & HP @109Hz. Thanks, Ki

Has the baby cheek orientation when mounting the JBL 2404 or CP-25 been discussed? ALK's photo shows the cheeks oriented vertically with one cheek on top and the other on the bottom. However, I see JBL speaker photos show the cheeks mounted horizontally, one on left and one on right. I would assume to follow the trachorn configuration for sound dispersion, the horizontal mounting of the cheeks is more apporpriate. Thanks, Ki

BTW, there was a forum member who had purchased several commercial version of Jub bass bins and was selling them. Anyone had the info? Thanks, Ki