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As far as I know the only difference betweent the two speakers is that the RF-3 IIs are internally wired w/ Monster wire. Therefore, there's not much difference. John

---------------- On 3/20/2004 12:28:08 AM Indians724 wrote: ok.......so i have my new klipsch home theater set up and now im thinking about adding a rear center channel....but then i was thinking about adding another set of ss-3's and just making 7.1.....what would be the best way to go 6.1 or 7.1....... ---------------- I'm not trying to start a war here, but I'm going to offer a suggestion simply as "food for thought". If going w/ the 7.1 setup, I would look at some bookshelf speakers instead of the SSs. Bookshelves behind make a little more sense than the SSs because the sound doesn't need to be distributed around the room, it just needs to be fired at you, much in the same the fronts simply need to be fired at you. As far as 6.1/7.1 goes, if you go w/ bookshelves you'll probably have to buy two anyway. If you go w/ the SSs I would stick w/ 6.1 to reduce the amount of "blurring" from the rear. (The SSs are going to interfere w/ each other significantly more than the bookshelves will.) $0.02, John

Glad to hear that you like them. I know I have loved my RB-25s from day one also. Enjoy!! John- Who let's his neighbors "enjoy" occasionally, whether they want to or not.

Pete, I agree about with the dynamics at low levels. In fact I would go a step farther and say the sound in general at lower volumes is great. Details are still apparent even at lower volumes. My other favorite aspect is the soundstage. John

Anybody here familiar w/ the Marantz 7400? I listened to one today and liked it pretty well. I can get one for $799. Is that a good price? John

Avman, This is funny. There's a guy on another forum (his name is Steve) that must be working w/ you. He just posted that he could get a 2400 in NO for $599. I told him I had to go to NO now. John- Who'll take any excuse to go to NO! Check your PM.

You've got mail. John

Troy, Go to SVS' website and email them. Tom and his partner, whose name escapes me right now, will be VERY helpful. Give them your room dimensions and listening habits/requirements and they will recommend a sub for you. The sub they recommend may not even be theirs. They really are great guys over there. John

I've got that. Make me an offer. Seriously, I've got a pair of mint condition white speakers and a mint condition center channel. I've got the original packaging and manuals etc. as well. Make me an offer and we'll see what we can do. John

I too own the 25s. When I demoed them I also demoed the 35s. I did some difference between the two but enough to justify the increased cost, IMHO. If you're looking for more bass, keep your 25s, take the $200 you would have spent upgrading to the 35s and put that towards a sub. $549 will get you into an SVS and that will be MORE than enough low end for you. John

Mark's advise is very good. One little note though, the MSRP for the RB-25s is $200 each. I have the RB-25s for my fronts and the RC-25 center. I wanted to use two more RB-25s for the rears but the wife wouldn't have it. Therefore, I'm using the RS-25s and they're very good. You need to go listen to the speakers yourself. Listen to them on the same receiver you have or at least another Sony ES. If that's not possible, listen to them and then see if you can bring them for a test. Have fun, John

---------------- On 3/11/2004 1:54:20 PM avman wrote: all the units we have have PL2x. some had stickers added to the outside of the box,and some are printed on the box. i can't sell you one outside of my area, but if you can get someone to pick it up locally in New Orleans, i can give you a price. avman. ---------------- ANOTHER reason to go to Nawlins!! The receiver would probably incidental compared to the rest of the money I'd spend there. John

I have RB-25s for fronts and they quite well. However, I also have (and recommend) a sub. You can use a sub w/ your current receiver, however. You have to run speaker wires from your receiver to your sub, then from your sub to your mains. If the sub you get doesn't have speaker outputs, you would run two pairs of wires from your receiver. One pair would go to the mains, the other pair would go to the sub. Your bass management options won't be quite as good this way, but it will work. John

Sknopa, I think the REAL issue here is how are you connecting your polycrystals? If they're not bi-wired w/ 6AWG wire from a company named after a snake, they'll never do. John

Polycrystal? I've just got the plain old monocrystal. Now there's something ELSE I've got to upgrade. John

Anyone? Anyone? John

Steely, That is what my manual says as well. What Marvin is asking about is bi-wiring, which is a little different. Bi-wiring means he'll simply run two sets of wires from the same post on the receiver to the speaker. Marvin, You're correct. Bi-wiring won't hurt anything. Also, it won't really matter if you bi-wire some of the speakers, but not all. However, the ones with the longest speaker wire runs (usually the surrounds) would be benefit the most from bi-wiring. I also don't see any real reason to be concerned about which wires to pair together. Just be consistant so that you can ensure proper polarity of all four wires. John

My recommendation would be the front three if you can do all three at once. If not all three, then I would probably lean towards doing the mains first, especially if you listen to music on the system. If it's strictly movies then you may want to look at doing the center first, but your center is pretty good. Don't switch to another brand!! $2k won't let you do RF-7s AND an RC-7, but CAN get a pair of RF-7s for pretty close to that. Good luck and remember to have fun looking! John

---------------- On 3/9/2004 5:07:41 PM bulldog wrote: Thanks for the help. I have read many older posts about speakers for a home theater and most say center chanel is most important because it gets the most signals. So would it be better to get a RC-7 for center instead of RB-75 since thats what its made for? Also, if I use all the same speaker do they all need to be at the same height? HornEd, what is a sub array? Also, you think 6.1 is better than 7.1? ---------------- As far as the center goes the RB-75 would be preferred my many because of "lobing" induced by center channel speakers w/ two horizontally oriented woofers. (Lobing is caused by wave interference patterns which result in frequency peaks and nulls as you move along the axis of the speakers (horizontally in this case).) Klipsch uses Tapered Array, which only uses one driver for certain frequencies, to help eliminate this. It is important to note however that laying an RB-75 on its side would not sound nearly as good as using an RC-7. If you use the 75, leave it vertical. Last thing, the RC-7's sensitivity is 98dB and the 75's is 97dB so not too much to worry about there. The Dolby website recommends putting the rears 2'-3' above ear level and not angling them toward the listener. A sub array is simply using multiple subs. These can be used/arranged in several ways. I think HornEd was stating that there are 6.1 discrete channels at most right now, and since the bookshelves are sold in pairs, 6.1 would an easier way to go. Of course I probably should have just let HornEd state that. John

---------------- sorry gold is better then copper. gold is the best conductor. copper is just more cost effective, as i have already stated. ---------------- Actually, the resistivity of silver is 1.4 x 10^-6 Ohm/cm, copper is 1.7, gold is 2.4, and aluminum is 2.8. Gold is used to prevent corrosion. Silver is not used because of economic reasons and for certain properties at certain frequencies (will have to look that up). John

I would like to get input from you guys comparing the Yammie 2400 and the Denon 3803 with respect to features only. (In other words I realize the sonic differences involved here.) Does one receiver have one or more features that the other doesn't which is a must have (e.g. YPAO)? How good is YPAO? Are any/all the DSP modes on the Yammie useful? Is 70MHz really enough bandwidth for HDTV switching? Those kinds of things. I've looked at the spec sheets quite a few times, but I want outside input to see if I missed anything. Thanks, John

First of all, welcome to the fray!! Personally, I belong to the identical speaker camp. Therefore, I would recommend the RB-75s all around. There will be others to chime in w/ other suggestions as well. This will give you perfect timbre matching for movies AND multi-channel music. The only area where some can say this system will be "lacking" is in pure two channel mode. However, the 75s go down to 42 Hz which ain't too shabby and you're really going to need a sub anyway for movies. Anway you go, you're going to well pleased w/ the sound! John

Very nice post. Thanks to PWK and his successors. John

Hookedontronics.com has MSRP as well as their prices shown on their website. As always, no Klipsch warranty when buying from an e-tailer. John

In the Reference manuals it mentions that bi-wiring can be advantageous if single runs of larger wire are undesirable. In other words, if you don't want to run 10ga wire for whatever reason, two 16ga runs can be used. Electronically, the only advantage it can have is reduced resistance, unless bi-amping is used. John