codhead

"True. I'd be willing to put a wager on it. $100 says the man does NOT have Cornwalls to pick up at the dealer (as promised) in four weeks." Don't think I'd take that bet! Took 2 months for the dealer to get a replacement pair of Heresy II's after UPS "customized" the first pair!

Jeez, this is too much! So you guys go to Hope and see a CW III prototype. A week later, a dealer takes an order. The customer calls tech support, and is told they just finshed with the crossover. So at this point, what's involved in starting production if all of the raw materials are on hand? No one is disputing the fact that they were not in production a week ago! They still might not be - but is it not reasonable to assume that they will be in the very near future? Looks to me like the higher-ups at Klipsch and the dealers knew this was coming. Does anyone out there work for a company where tech support gets new product information before the program/business office does? I really doubt it. For me, I'm just happy to see that the CW III is/soon will be back in production. I don't need a post from someone in tech support saying "Simon says..." to believe it.

CTP, sure you don't mean the Premier series?

Pretty hard to call a dealer taking $3,300 a "rumor".

Plywood? Stop teasing Michael, you're gonna get my hopes up! I'd like to see the forum administrators provide a yes or no (not a Clintonian) answer to these 2 questions: 1) Has the decision been made to put the CW III into production? 2) Have your dealers been provided with a price list? That would pretty much end the speculation. It's occured to me that "no information available" may just mean "no information available for public release". Perhaps this dealer has let the cat (or maybe I should say Cornwall) out of the bag!

Is anyone familiar with the exact frequency this artifact appears at? I've been driving myself half crazy trying to reproduce it on my Heresys and Cornwalls. Maybe I'm just just lucky enough not to have drivers which suffer from this anomaly, but I'm not convinced. Would I benefit from mic'ing my squawkers, and looking at the signal amplitude on a scope?

Dean, Check out the post from "toomanyspeakers", claiming that he just ordered a new pair of CW III's from his dealer. At this point, no one from Klipsch has stepped in to refute his claim. - Jeff

If the initial reports are true, I can't help but to wonder what the Klipsch marketing folks are thinking. If the Heresy III is to sell for around $1.5K, what on earth justifies a 4K price point for CW III's? Historically, Cornwalls have been priced at a bit less than twice the cost of the Heresy. If this held true today, the CW III would retail for under 3K. I hope I'm wrong, but it would seem that the Heritage line once known for value is slowly being transformed into yet another high margin product.

Gizmo's girls have that classic WWII pinup look...

http://www.hagtech.com/hagusb.html If you have a DAC and a computer, this looks like a great way to get decent sound quality. First time I've seen something like this.

"Na just a metaphore no need for banning. I might get a slap on the hand from Amy though LOL !!" When did Klipsch get to be so PC? My mind may be playing tricks on me, but I swear that not too long ago there were a bunch of pics of babes with speakers (old Klipsch ads) on this site. If I'm not mistaken, the link was titled "Exploited women of the 70's" !!!

Since this appears to be the same amplifier Sophia has been pedaling for a while now, perhaps this thread can offer some insight: http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/406303/ShowPost.aspx Sorry for not making this a link, but the new forum software does not work properly with ANY browser on my Macintosh (IE, Firefox, Safari).

Brand new black Cornwall II grilles on Audiogon ($50): http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?spkrfull&1129823191

Just scored a mint D-45 with box/manual for $175 on eBay. Was gonna go for a new one, but for under 200 clams with shipping, I just could not resist. Someone at Crown has a great sense of humor. Check this out... http://www.crownaudio.com/pdf/amps/belchfire_datasheet.pdf

One more try...

Here's the $1,500 Sophia... tell me this ain't related to that $200 Chinese amp!

That looks just like the Sophia Electric EL34 (claimed to be "made" in VA and CA) which sells for $1,499. Wonder if "made" refers to the assembly of $200 worth of Chinese parts?

Bose - the company famous for not publishing specs. This appears to be a great example of why not. A week and a half ago, I was at a store with my 22-year-old daughter. We passed a Bose display (think it was an iPod speaker system) and she said "I bet that sounds really great." I ask her why, to which she replied "Because they're Bose!" No experience with their products whatsoever (sold my 901's when she was 2). I think the secret to their success is advertising. Lots of it. Keep telling people how great their products are, and pretty soon they start to believe.

Here's a side view, natural light, with one of the grilles set in place.

Used 5 or 6 "stripping" products (one was something like "Strip-Ease"), turpentine, and a whole lot of sanding. The motor boards and backs were not stained to begin with (backs still raw plywood). These have what appears to be factory cane grilles and molding (guess it was an option). The finish is sealer, 2 coats of pecan stain, and 5 coats of poly - each rubbed out *by old people* with steel wool. Almost painted them black - glad I lost that thought. If you look closely around the mid and tweeter hole, the wood received a little sun fading around the grille cutouts. Sill not bad for their age.

First try at a picture - hope it posts. Here's one of my '77 CDBR cabinets. This was one of those great eBay purchases. The Cornwalls arrived with the bottoms broken, and the risers glued on. So after a lot of work (came in walnut stain) they turned out very nice. I almost hate to cover the front of the motor board with Velcro dots for the speaker grilles. Still have a good road trip remaining, so will have to wait to see how they sound. These are a lot easier to transport with the drivers removed.

Once had 2 pair of 901's, driven by a pair of Yamaha M-80's. That's 1000 watts total, so guess I only had half of what it takes to fully appreciate them. [] Even with the reduced power, that system had the ability to make a police officer appear - seemingly out of nowhere.

"At least Codhead had some experience with a Juicy product before he posted his thoughts. THAT is useful." Kev, Think you have me confused with an adjacent post. I was just trying to interject a little humor. I have ***no experience*** with Juicy products, so I can't comment on them one way or another. As an engineer, I can only wish Mark and Craig the best of luck with their products. It takes a lot of hard work and dedication to design, source, prototype, and manufacture equipment. I think the Klipsch folks are pretty cool for allowing them to market to forum members, as I doubt if they currently have the resources for a proper ad campaign. Yeah, the seemingly endless accolades can be frustrating to wade through at times. But they're also doing their part to keep a dying industry alive - and from that we all benefit. I still remember the excitement associated with my first decent piece of tube gear, and if this forum existed at the time, I'm sure my comments would have annoyed someone. It's a lot easier to deal with when you keep it in perspective.

Joe ought to at least get a "Merlin Financier" T-shirt!

"Add to that the clear sticker price disparity...and that almost assures wider divergence (see codheads post above and the assumption of correlation between price and subjective perception)." Most of the Teac mods seem to focus on 1) better quality components, and 2) cleaner DC power. This leads me to believe that in building the Teac to a price point, sonic compromises have most certainly been made. If there was no room for improvement, I doubt the mod market would find many takers. The Tripath White Paper backs this up, speaking to how manufacturers can further cut production costs by using even lesser grade components with their design. Upon close examination, you will find that many of the higher-end amps are built with premium quality components, and very well designed power supplies. Out of the box, they come close to providing the best sound that their design allows. And no, quality parts in and of themselves will not overcome a poorly designed circuit - so some degree of engineering competence is also required. To assuage your feelings regarding my ability to correlate price and perception, I currently have an amp sitting in my bedroom closet - replaced by a slightly modded ST-70 retailing at one sixth the cost. Perhaps the fact that I choose Klipsch speakers might also tell you something. If the time comes when technology advances to the point where very inexpensive components can perform at (or reasonably near) the same level as very good ones, I'll be the first to embrace it.