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here's my situation: I'm in bad need of set-top mounted Front Center, which would sit atop the sony w/ the omni-mount. I was going to get another C-7 for the required rear surround, but this way I could get the best match for a Cornwall (well, besides a Cornwall - NOT DOING), & move the ole C-7, currently at FC, back to join its KLF brothers. please let my FC C-7 reunite w/ its siblings! :-) I'm not too excited about mounting any Heresy horizontal & off-center on the tv-top. but now some are saying that the Heresy, especially the new Heresy III (?), is the REAL deal for a match w/ my 1984 Cornwall I.5 fronts. please help, 'cause I don't think I'd ever be able to listen to an Academy in person, & as far as I can remember, I've never even heard a mini-Cornwall - Heresy. btw, I'm an avid listener/watcher of rock 'n roll music (& other) & HT movies, concerts by way of cable & dvd. thanks much. B

"so the "best" match is another CII for you but Academy is still a great center (a little smaller too if that matters)" Bill Bill, yeah it does matter here, because I really don't want to mount a 100lb Cornwall I.5 on the wood frame wall above my new $4000 tv. [] so I need to know whether (which) heresy, or if the academy, will be best for a TV-top mount. I'm going to start a new "standoff" thread on it here in HT. Thanks! B

you might want to take a look at the new Sony SXRD LCOS 50, if you don't mind a real light weight rptv. I know a nice bunch in Syracuse NY that can set you up w/ that for around $3k, no sales tax & delivered. here's the review of the brother 60 by Tomlinson (attached). B sxrd.pdf

olrin & silver-s, any heresy better than academy, or the new heresy III? wonder if the heresy III, w/ its new horn tweeter (I think) is a timbre match or mismatch for my '84 Cornwall 1.5s. (?) I may have to call the dealer on the heresy III, in Cherry. still don't like the idea of laying a heresy on its side for a center. maybe klipsch would custom make a heresy as a center w/ the horns turned. (?) I did wonder about the Academy at "only" 96db as a match to Corns, but then again my older Corns are "only" 98db, not as high as the new ones (the III). when I left here back in 2000, the academy was the holy grail for a smaller center that matched well the Heritage (especially Cornwalls & some have said the academy was made just for the Cornwall II), & you could put it on top 'o TV. has that changed, or is it subjective? even though it's all subjective - it's just a matter of degree. [:|] thanks for the input!

eq, you mean for a 100+ lbs Cornwall? I got that Omni-Mount (actually also at C-City when I got the TV stand) to put the (smaller up to 80lbs) on top of the lcd-like RPTV. was thinking current C-7 then, but now dif in Academy. sorry, I'm spinning here now, but at least they're smaller circles. [:|]

" A H3, CW3 and LAS2 is a much better center than an Academy. In fact the latest THX specs call for three of the same speakers in the front. Why would you ever want to throw in a whimpy academy when there is much better choises." J, great to see you again. (see above) I'd have to mount(?) a 100lb speaker on a wood frame wall to do a center Corn, either vertically or horizontally. guess I'd have to use the studs, LOL. iow, those huge speaks - I can't put on the floor, & no I'm not getting a new stand & it's an LCD-Like TV. :-) I have '84 Cornwall I.5 (fronts). everything I've read says the Academy is THE match for a cornwall as far as a center you can actually mount on top of an LCD-Like TV. only problem is - I've never heard an Academy. just read. looks like at 96db it's not too far off from MY corns 98db. [:|]

seadog, nice!, but I've decided against mounting a Cornwall on the wood frame wall behind the TV, so it will be an Academy. not that they're that good. ;-)

"I had a guy a Sears quate me 400.00 for the stand the other day." I'd take that now, as they're hard to find. course, in a mo. or 6 they could be had for $300. ;-) the main watchin'/listenin' couch here is 14-15', & it's great. some seats are only about 6 & they're great too. hell, 6" is great. you'd be fine w/ the 50. just move the couch forward if you'd like. ;-) side note: these new SXRD come w/ the settings pretty well good already, but you really should hire a pro setup/calibrator person. then again, I did, & he's still trying to get the codes/set-up manual. [:|]

steve, sorry, I picked up your last PM on my email & replied to you there. is it on your email? it was a longer dissertation, but in a nutshell - I got it (SUGW12) at Circuit City after getting them to knock it from $500 to $400 over the phone w/ a Super there before my arrival. yes, CC & BB WILL negociate down. you just have to call or talk directly to a Super, & it doesn't hurt to be well armed w/ an outstanding net price, &/or play them against each other. .[]

I haven't been here for about 5 years, but when I left, If someone even mentioned in passing that they were thinkin' of "releasing" an academy, they'd be swarmed like.... well you know(?). is the market now in my favor? LOL ken, I am in the market for an academy & would buy it from you outright, given condition & finish (well, no biggie on that, probably). which finish is it? (not that you would really want to sell it) I'm in bad need of a good academy, as w/ the new house & TV, & Cornwalls, I need its perfect center which would sit atop the sony w/ the omni-mount. I was going to get another C-7 for the required rear surround, but this way I could get the best match for a Cornwall (well, besides a Cornwall) & move the ole C-7, currently at FC, back to join its brothers. Ken, I implore you, please let my FC C-7 reunite w/ its siblings! :-)

thanks guys - eq & tom, great to see you guys again. I think I'm definitely on the mission for the holy grail Academy, as I can't do what you're doin' w/ an rptv, tom. besides, I already bought the omni-mount at CC anyway. :-) what are those on the front sides there, tom? could they be....CORNWALLS? excellent!

thanks doc. but think I'll just look for an Academy for set-top. or maybe Klipsch will resurrect the Academy in an Academy II(?)! the 2nd coming! []

where's the Academy II??? I know, looking gift horse in mouth. [:$]

again in the looking gift horse in mouth dept, klipsch need to resurrect THE ACADEMY. I NEED 1 in cherry (or black, or oak, or walnut)... [<)].

thanks guys! DR: noticable IS critical here. [] frz: don't think that'll work....(see below) [] think I'll just get an Academy. which, again not to look gift horse in mouth, why doesn't Klipsch resurrect the Academy along w/ the Cornwall III? [:|]

Here's that review (I'm not smart enough to attach 2 files to one reply). sxrd.pdf

" Oh and Boa, now that you made all that dough what kind of toys have you acquired that you can tell us about?" thebes well T, it's not that I'm another Bill Gates [8-|] it was more like I was goin' BROKE spending all my time here instead of workin' (I'm self-employed); & all the while buying B&K Ref 30, Ref 7270 amp, KLF-30, (2) C-7s, Marantz 8000, Monster Power Box, Nice Stands, & all those cables & biwires, to add to my original '84 Cornwalls & Kenwood KR-9600 receiver (the beast - circa 1975). I'm sure I left something out. Now (see below pic w/ all the speaks still boxed)) I got the best "toy" I could - a HOUSE to match all this stuff. The new centerpiece to build around is a Sony SXRD LCOS 60" (see attached review from Tomlinson at Perfect Vision). if you guys don't want to do FP, this RPTV is THE one (at least for now until they come out w/ a 1080p that actually takes a 1080p input - though none currently exist sans computer). now I NEED AN ACADEMY (to replace C-7, & move it back for rear surround). prefer the black, but any will do. after that I'll probably be hangin' a damned Cornwall III on the wall behind the TV. [:|] did I put enough in this to get hazed now? LOL

hopefully the last time on my set-up research. I'll have a 14ft-Wide wall for the front array, & w/ Cornwalls ('84, Series I w/ the horn from the II so therefore a 1.5) in each front corner. how well would a heresy III (cherry to match the Corns) on its side, horizontal, mounted on top of TV (see start-up pic) w/ an omni-mount platform work?

thanks guys! what's the distance between your fronts (assuming your center is exactly in the middle)?

how do you have it mounted - vertically or horizontal? anybody know the degrees dispersion of the horn(s) vertically (horizontal when turned on side)? which fronts you have it in between? I'm thinkin' a SINGLE Heresy III would be fine in between the '84 Cornwalls I.5 w/ just a 14ft wide front wall. I have an omni-mount for the LCOS (LCD-like) TV that holds up to 80lbs. my only concern is the dispersion alignment when the heresy is turned on side - horizontal, & what the normal verticle dispersion of the horns are, when then used as horizontal, in my set-up. thanks!

hate to say, but that's one main reason I left here over 5 yrs ago, & after 4000+ posts. this place was turning into a WWF match. needed the free time anyway - LIKE to make money to buy Klipsch. []

I do! I do! & all that Seattle sound. makes me want to actually GET MY SYSTEM HOOKED UP, though I know it will consume me (like AIC). []

travis, nice! how are the sonics w/ those centers?

78K, I wouldn't be suprised if Sony were to come out w/ a 70" version in this SXRD LCOS, maybe when all the copyright issues are worked out/HDMI so that it could support a 1080p input. at the moment, the 50 & 60 only accept as high as a 1080i & then deinterlace to 1080p. or maybe even before all that.

10-4, 78K. sorry for my misunderstanding. [] if a 60" isn't too small, you REALLY need to check out this Tee-Vee I just got ($1k+ off list w/ no sales tax), delivered by private truck. see attachment... sxrd.pdf