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Hi EVeryone
ITs been a while..happy New yr to all !!
I just inherited a pair of ALtec Voice of the Theatre A5X
Lord help me.....these things are huge
my wife just shakes her head
Now i know why Paul developed the CORNER horn..
Life aint dull .thats for sure,.just gotta figure out what to do with em , after i refinish em
ROb
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----------------On 12/29/2003 5:25:45 PM kenratboy wrote:I am looking to replace my dead Parts Express plate amp with a new EQ (ART 351 looks cool) and amp. I know Crown and QSC are both good companies and both make $300 amps I like (600-800 watts 8 ohms bridged) - however, do you think one brand is better overall? I am partial to Crown, as they are part of Harman International, and all the dealings I have had with them (JBL, JBL Pro, Harman Kardon, and AKG) have been EXCELLENT (customer service was AWESOME.) Would a new (I want new, but I will be hitting the pawn shops soon...) Crown amp be good? I am looking at the XLS 402 for $300 from Musicians Friend. It is no frills, and thats what I want.$100 for the ART 351 EQ (has a good high pass on it)$330 for the Crown XLS 402 (800 watts)Sound good? As it is, I have no subwoofer right now
----------------Hi Ken its been a while...happy New year
The QSC or the Crown are excellent choices
Sonically they are very close..QSC is faster..i think.
I can vouch for the crown because ive used many of the them over the yrs,. and can speak for their Cement truck
reliablity.
Especially earlier on ,with racks of DC-300a and D150A
BUT...
ANother good amp for a sub is a Bryston 4b
Cheers
Rob
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When i worked at the Audio store, my boss had
Klipschorns at the house ,in Zebrawood!
It compares with the finest furniture out there,in terms of care and finish.
I agree with JOsh too, the JBL speakers had a beautiful American Black walnut finish that looked awesome.
We carried their pro line of studio monitors
and even the little 4301 had that finish.
Rob
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hi Bobd
The nicest SS reciever i have heard."at any price is the Mcintosh MAC4200,@75wpc.
Audio classics usually have em ,you might want to see the website re:price it varies.
www.audioclassics.com
a little more expensive off the top, but i guarantee its one of the last 2ch units you'll
ever need to buy(if u do sell,MC retains value
My 2ND choice would be any of the H/K 430-730
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LoLo
hey
I have heard Bryston with many different Klipsch products, and i can tell you , its a
nice neutral almost "round" sound,(as how my musician friends like to describe")
I have a bryston 2BLP powering my Klipsch in walls in our new home cinema.
ITs a REAL 60w/ch, split all the way back to the line cord.
I once tried a bryston 3B when i had my Heritage Klipsch COrnwalls, and the bryston was one of my favorite 3 ,amps ive ever heard
on the system
Build wise,.they are cement truck tough, but
musically nothing gets left out, or added.
MY tube friends in here will get on me for this but the brystons do not carry that typical "SS sound" that many ,especially the lower end Mass market amps have.
YOu can install it turn it on and forget about it...
Bryston is BIG in recording studios,but also
in PRO sound..where they make a "mirror" line
just for the road.
But the sound remains the same
Its Money very well spent man.
Hope this helps.
Rob
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wow, wonder how impressed his sales manager
is with him?! HA!
Gee would like to try this test on my KTP 484
subs...
IM my case,.i worry more about structural dammage to the house....lol
cause so far..i havn't been able to tax the
484's with anything i throw at them.
Don't sound stores just luv customers like us!
"I am a Canadian too"
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Justin,.wow sounds like things are comming along well.!Congrats man!
p.s your post has almost as many replies as
the one for the Khorns signed by PWK.remember?
Its all good,..ENjoy!
Rob
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hi mmiles
I did all my home theater with seperate power
2 channel power amplifiers, stealing a page from my sound reinforcement days.
My recomendation to someone earlier in here was BRYSTON.
Built like a cement truck,but nothing musical
left unturned.
I purchased a 2BLP 60/wch for my surrounds.
Everytihing is split,.right back to the line cord,and if you go for the 2BLP-pro, you get
ballanced XLR ins and level matching controls.
sonically the home and pro are identical.
1150 is my last check on a home 2B, but you might be able to get a broken in "pro" at a lesser price.
Hope this helps
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Justin,it all sounds very nice man!
And you are doing what Judith and I are doing here, except ours is a complete basement refit,..for real HT (room within a room)
Which meant moving of two walls and building
one more with the alcove that holds the speakers, amp rack and of course the screen.
I went with black lascalla's for L-C-R.
KNowing that the Lascalla drops off somwhere around 50hz, i wanted something potent to keep up with the folded horns,so after alot of looking around at home" subs, i was lucky enough to come across the pro KTP 484 18" sub.
well..i have yet to find a sub that can "move
the furniture" like these can!!!
And it seems to be a seamless extension from the lascalla .
Every cabinet gets its own amp channel, which keeps things nice and tight.
Power was supplied by two 20A AC lines that i
had wired to the inside of the rack cabinet.
One is dedicated specifically for the sub's amplifier,..a big Dynaco 416..one sub per ch.
The other AC line feeds the other 3 power amps in the system
I chose the recent Bryston surround processor
It seems real easy to use.
My surrounds i went klipsch in walls.
For the screen, i admit i don't know too much about, but its a stewart and its perforated so the highs from the K-77's won't be muted.
And the holes are smaller, because you sit alot closer to a home screen that in a commercial movie theatre screen.
Were almost finished, but the back wall was a pain to install,..thats what hung us up
The theater room is horseshoe shapped..neat eh
We will come in shortly under $51,000 wich is
2,000 less than i though because i was able to
do alot of the prewiring myself.
this is what we wound up with..
After alot of hard work and "dust"
System:
Klipsch Lascalla L-C-R
Klipsch KTP-484 18" subs (X2)
Klipsch In walls- surrounds
20A AC X2 for amp rack-Hammond fan cooled
Bryston Surround Processor
Harman Kardon cit 16/A x2(L-C-R)
Dynaco stereo 416 (subs)
Bryston 2bLP (surrounds)
Stewart centre channel ready screen
Panasonic DVD player
*all front speakers and amp rack are behind
the screen,Only surround inwalls are visible
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I see the Bryston 2BlP lists new for $1150.00
BUT..you might be able to get one "broken in"
for around 850. US
check out some pro sound people for 2BlP-Pro
same amp with XLR in's and variable gains.
"yum"
here is a good website listing all the Bryston
http://www.aaudio.com/bryston_2blp.html
Also check out
They handle other used GOOD audio,besides Mac Tom can usually find a good used unit for you.
He's been a good help with my system.
check out the pic of the Bryston
hope this helps!
Rob
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The guys have lots of great suggestions here
Mine is..:BRYSTON
I picked up my 2BLP 50w/CH, for my surrounds
Its a very honest,real 50w/ch rating.
Think Clean
Think BRYSTON
BRYSTON
BRYSTON
BRYSTON
BRYSTON
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Shoe~
Re nice system
Thanx man,.. yours too eh..
mine? a long time coming!
lots of late nights wiring and "dust"
(cough ..sneeze)
Ugh! drywall!!
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shoe~
oh yeah i forgot...lol
..System..
Klipsch Lascalla L-C-R
Klipsch KTP 484 18" subs (x2)
Klipsch in walls surrounds
Hammond fan cooled rack cabinet
Bryston HT processor
Harman kardon citation 16/A (x2)
Dynaco stereo 416
Bryston 2BLP
Stewart Center Channel ready screen
double 20A AC for amp rack
Panasonic DVD player
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Shoe~
yeah,.i see where u are comming from.
if i were sitting in your chair now i would most likely keep what i have,..for the sake of
having it.
Im a guy who hates setbacks, and if i had to
do mineagain and buy something else besides heritage for the H.T , i dunno where i would start. JBL pro? maybe,old VOT? most likely not.
Changing to something else will change the whole personality of your system.
And,its just a pain in the *** to start again!
ROb
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Hi Shoe
Guess my interest still stands in the heritage
lineup, as my next stereo speakers will be the cornerhorns.
That also stems from owning 82 cornwalls, and now ,lascalla speakers in our big screen setup
IF we had a Best Buy around here,.they won't
be carrying heritage ,so its no use to me.
But ,Fred wants in on the big time mass market end of the business,.Best Buy can put
more of his product in the customers face, than the competition.(not that im pushing BB)
this will be the Klipsch Eqiv,of the cavalier
or neon, bread and butter.
Because..folks don't order lincolns everyday.
but...they do still order....!
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I hate to come in here and be cynical..really
But its all about the $$$$$.
Tied in with how much the retailer can move in a month .
Best buy moves allmost as much electronics in a month,as Wallmart does with all else.
I would never come out and say this if I didnt
know,.but after working for one major retailer
and two major PC manufactures, everyone is looking at their monthly margins.
And from Fred Klipsch's perspective,. if its his brand massed on the center isle ends,the better for Klipsch LLC.
I didn't want this to be so long winded but ,
image aside,..its really about monthly margins
and the minimum amount of turn on the goods
And..their retailers return policy's.
Plus to be a world player,..Fred has got to
be there with the sony's the JVC's,the onkyo's
But hey,.we can still order Heritage from the
high end places..so im not so worried.
I can't see that ending anytime soon.
And maybe PWK would rest easier knowing it.
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Wow ..this really interesting!
Lets see,Oldest i would assume is my Dynaco
416, i bought from my Neighbor recently but
he purchased it in its first yr run in 1977.
The second oldest, my two H/K citation
16/A amps, built in 1978.
Interesting,,i bought these at two different
time points, yet im told they were made within
a week of each other at the plainview plant.
Everything else is brand new outa the box!!
system
klipsch lascalla L-C-R
klipsch KTP 484 subs (X2)
klipsch in walls surrounds
Hammond 19" fan cooled rack
bryston sourround processor
harman kardon cit 16/A (x2)
dynaco stereo 416
bryston 2bLP
twin 20A power supply
Stewart center channel ready screen
panasonic DVD player
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----------------On 2/14/2003 11:32:07 PM William F. Gil McDermott wrote:Yeah, I can see where this is going. The world changes.Klipsch must be looking for the distrubutor with the lowest mark up, to keep the retail price as low as possible. The next step is direct sales from the factory. Horrors! (smile).I can appreciate that PWK was selling his wares by having the stock on the floor of dealers where people could listen and be "converted" to the merits of the product. Yet buyers knew, and know, they are paying for that overhead.For good or for bad, buyers are not willing to pay for the showrooms, and there is a relentless pressure by buyers to purchase without the cost of a demonstration and hovering salesman. And we don't want to pay for the cost of advertising outside the modest investment on the 'net.Hey, it is like automobiles. In days past, you'd go to a showroom and get convinced, if not seduced, this is a good car for me. Not so today. We want rock bottom prices on the internet.There is some some sanity to direct sale, where we are going. We want technical performance and the results of R&D. You can't help but look at a speaker and conclude, "I paid for a slick ad in Sound and Vision."The interem is that Klipsch is using the most low cost distributor. We should not be surprised. Hewlett-Packard, a powerhouse of high tech technology, is reduced to the same. Are there any HP show rooms? Do we want them?GilWilliamyour are correct!!Up until recently I worked for HP client support,..NOW you have a problem,..U must go to the website...ROb----------------
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Didn't some Quad and Naim amps have the power switch on the back?
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Hi (again) Moon!
As for the question of leaving the amps on .
my above answer was based on the information that I was given by one of the Bryston techs.
Knowing that my HT amp rack was in a remote
location,. i was concerned about these left
powered up all the time.
Bryston tells me that there is no harm in leaving these on and forgetting about them.
Make sure the ventilation is good, and that the power supply is stable,.eg not going to go
on/off alot.
Bryston does recommend constant power up for
their units,.as is the case in their permanent
sound installs ,clubs and studio installs.
i took it as good advice and made my own HT
decision based on this.
hope this helps
ROb
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Hi Moon
I read your question about computers,on/off?
I have worked for two global computer companies, compaq and HP,and its been our findings that the computer boxes are best shut down every night after use.
Expanding and contracting happens in many things once heated up, your TV, your laptop,
even under the hood of your car after its been running a while.
The ONLY time i would recommend leaving your
HOME pc on is, #1-if its running a home network, or#2 if its a machine that must be accessed from another machine E.G your laptop
when your away on business ,through dialup.
We have come across far too many problems with
home pcs left on over night or when someones
been away on vacation.
It is usually after this happens it generates
a call to the manufacture or the retailer with
some type of PC trouble.
All the above does not apply to Bigger office
and Corporate Frames, that must be accessed
constantly from the oustide...!
Hope this helps
ROb
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I have read that too, and after comming from a
pro sound background,we used to leave racks of amps /processors/crossovers/equalizers on 24/7,with no ill effects.
But mind you thats pro sound, with amp racks and things in sometimes hard to get places.
But having said that i leave my own amp rack
on in my home theater system..mainly cause its
behind my center lascalla ,behind the screen.
but hey.!
I see no ill effect with modern SS equipment
Just make sure it gets cool air circulation.
I would not leave Tube gear on all the time.
system
klipsch lascalla L-C-R
klipsch KPT 484 subs x2
klipsch in wall surrounds
Stewart center channel ready screen
Panasonic DVD player
Hammond amp rack: fan cooled
bryston sourround processor
harman kardon cit 16A (x2)
dynaco stereo 416
bryston2BLP
double 20 amp power supply
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Trey
Awesome !
IF memory serves that is also who makes the
k-33 in my lascalla (1999) and my previous
heritage, cornwalls (1982)
IT is in very good company!
Thanks Trey
thanks man,..
ROb
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There just ain't nothing that will dull out those bass waves ,heading downstairs!!!
In college, i lived above and below guys with
great stereos,and one bass player with an
Ampeg!!
THink im just catchin up on my sleep now!!
Inherited Altec A5X
in General Klipsch Info
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After actually getting inside of these,I can't get over how well they are made....of course..3/4 plywood..SOLID.
The sanding starts in a few days, but considering how long they have been sitting and dusty they are in remarkable condition....in build.
Ive been torn on doing the original theatre grey finish,which allways looks great with the two black speakers showing,.. or ready them for some outdoor work comming up this summer,which will be first big test for thme since the refurb.
A buddie of mine has his annual backyard party in June,.and well..when i say backyard party.. its the size of a golf course...nearly... so i have to throw the sound a fair bit!
road ready..meaning handles, dolly wheels proper jack field
and that type of covering like u see on bass guitar amps with the metal edge bumpers and covering,..etc
But i want a real professional look....nothing cheap
I will still sit the cells on the top...they are BIG and will not fit the port area like the 511.
Anyways,...this ALtec stuff is new to me,.as being Klipsch
boy allways,.but have to admit its interesting.
Bet these sound sweet with tubes
hmmm maybe a citation tube amp next.....hehehehe