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3 hours ago, CECAA850 said:
Did they ever make these for retail sale? I thought the ones floating around were all prototypes.
Carl,
Yes, Cory was involved with Roy to get a small run of them done. I think Cory had seven for sale but they are all sold now.
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4 hours ago, Zen Traveler said:
What do those retail for?
They only did a small run of the KPT-1502's and they are old sold. I believe they were being sold for right at $3,000 without an amp. It's big brother the 1802 is still available and makes the best Bass Guitar reproduction you will ever hear IMHO!
Rog
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5 hours ago, jdmccall said:
I'm talking home subwoofers. Key words being "home", as in "designed for". Not that ugly and enormous 1502 theater thing. (No offense to any who may have one of those in their home or who perhaps have one they us as a home.) Other key word: "subwoofer", as in operating below woofer range. 50-60Hz tops, as I don't know of any Heritage speakers that can't function fine down to 60Hz. If crossovers are done properly, a good sealed or vented sub of sufficient size and power should not muddy up anything, but simply extend bass response right on down to 16-32Hz.
You are obviously talking your beliefs and not truth. You have obviously never heard a Klipsch KPT-1502 or 1802 in person. A direct radiator has 10 times the distortion of a Horn and it IS Auditable!
Roger
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On 10/22/2020 at 11:32 AM, jdmccall said:
I'm talking home subwoofers. Key words being "home", as in "designed for". Not that ugly and enormous 1502 theater thing. (No offense to any who may have one of those in their home or who perhaps have one they us as a home.) Other key word: "subwoofer", as in operating below woofer range. 50-60Hz tops, as I don't know of any Heritage speakers that can't function fine down to 60Hz. If crossovers are done properly, a good sealed or vented sub of sufficient size and power should not muddy up anything, but simply extend bass response right on down to 16-32Hz.
I disagree again, both the Bass horn on the La Scala and Belle are far to short and these speakers are not even acting as a Horn below 100 Hz. Better look at a Horn Sub that can cross that high for best results!
Roger
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15 hours ago, jdmccall said:
I'm not thinking horn subs. Too big for about 99.9% of the human race according to a study that was never done. Too big even for most klipschorn and la scala owners, someone may have once said. No, I'm thinking vented or sealed, big as needed with very powerful class D amp. There's many great subs out there that would be quite satisfactory, performance-wise. But they don't look the part. They need to look like Klipsch Heritage. Klipsch could do it so easily, I would think...and I have zero experience in the audio industry, so I should know!
I disagree!!
A fully horn loaded speaker Like Klipschorn, La Scala, or Belle deserves to be in a fully Horn loaded system and I don't think for one second that most of us that have multiple pairs of these are that worried about the additional space! My vote rather is most of us are Puss-Pusses and are afraid of the wife! I have never had that problem but boy am I aware of it with most of you.... Hey, the ideal would be one, or a pair of Klipsch KPT-1802's but if your really don't have the room or the budget, a fully horn loaded sub like the DIY F-20 has a pretty small footprint and is only tall and if your aren't handy with tools you can always contract a build with Carl !!
For hat it's worth to the sissy's among us, that's just my 2 cents!
Roger
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3 hours ago, raeggis said:
Do the speakers get direct current or alternating current from amplifier?
The speakers are ONLY supposed to get Alternating Current at all times. If you turn your amp up to loud, you can Clip the amplifier. Clipping the Amplifier means you have run out of headroom and instead of a round wave of Alternating Current, the tops and bottoms of the wave are Clipped off meaning they are flat, straight, or cut off. These flat spots are DC, both positive at the top of the wave and Negative voltage at the bottom of the wave. These flat spots of Direct Current are exactly what heats up your voice coil and can blow your speakers. A lot of good amps starting around 1980 had two RED L.E.D.'s, one for each stereo channel and they would start to light up when you started running your amp into Clipping. Kind of like an idiot light on your car! ...
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8 hours ago, Coytee said:
So I guess it's not a hoarding problem until the first step of admitting you have a hoarding problem??
Richard,
You know that I love Kevin to death, but he has it worse than I do!
Denial is not a river!
Rog
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16 hours ago, tigerwoodKhorns said:
Time to scrap the Palladium 5.1. Damm!
In ALL fairness, Paladiums ARE Beautiful but I have heard the PF-39's and home Klipschorns sound better, let alone Jubes. The Paladiums do have that WAF though if she keeps your pair in her purse! 😆
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15 hours ago, Dave A said:
Well when are you going to get a real set? Gotta go big to sound big and you are not there yet, not even close by the way.
Dave,
I am considering replacing the front three with three Jubilees when I get my inheritance some day...
Roger
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16 hours ago, Coytee said:
Please..... don't interrupt me.... I'm busy deflecting.....
Yeah Randy!
His wife beat the poor lad into selling one of his Danley's didn't she for Christ's sake?
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Does Anybody have a copy of those 10 stacks of KP-600's at Kevin Harmons shop? If so, can you post it here? Most of those KP-600 stacks are mine.
Roger
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On 10/18/2020 at 10:30 AM, Shiva said:
I'm trying to picture a 7 K-horn home theater and a whole bunch of KP-600 stacks and my mind balks at the attempt.😀 Are there any pics?
Go to the Pro section and I think it is on page 12. Look for "Feeding the TSCM fever" The pictures of the ones in the barn are some of mine when I first got them. Present were Indy klipsch fan, aka Roger Chase, Michael Colter and myself. These are Klipsch Pro Klipschorns also known as TSCM's, NOT home Klipschorns although I used to have four Home Klipschorns and a La Scala center channel before I got these. Presently I have four Klipsch Pro Split La Scala and two Klipsch Pro Slant Monitor Heresy's for my 21 year old Daughter.
Roger
That is my bald head holding the Dewalt and here are some of my TSCM's. TSCM stands for Theatre Stage Corner Monitor. Those are Klipschorns with fully built backs / wings and bottom and top. A Home Klipschorn has a K-33E 15 inch woofer rated at 100 watts RMS, these have a TSCM (only) K-44E 15 inch woofer rated at 250 watts RMS. A home Klipschorn has a K-400 midrange horn with a 5/8 inch throat and a single K-55 midrange driver. The Top hats on these, besides being able to aim the top section separately from the bottom, they have a K-400 midrange horn but this one has a 2 inch throat with a K-4 splitter attached and it has four K-55 midrange drivers. A home Klipschorn has a single K-77 tweeter and the special tweeter lense in these splits and has two K-77 motors and diaphragms. A home Klipschorn weighs 175 pounds where as these weigh in at 250 pounds each. Since I have Srven of these with four K-55 drivers each, that is 28 K-55 drivers alone. These were oriiginally sold in the early to mid 1980's and were only sold to movie theatres.
Roger
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I have seven Pro Klipschorns... Want to talk Klipsch High End, let's talk seven Jubilees or seven double MWM bins with Jubilee top section, or even seven KP-600 stacks. or stay off the porch! This is the Pro Section...
Roger
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On 10/15/2020 at 1:45 AM, TasDom said:
Me too but silly me sold them to some dude in Ohio....🤕
Thanks man !
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I had a stock pair in much nicer shape than these and had both high frequency cabinets and both Low frequency cabinets. Stock early La Scala sound a lot better to me.
Roger
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On 9/22/2020 at 9:02 PM, MookieStl said:
Slapped a piece of alum angle on a (kinda) similar color stain to get a feel for it.
Great dude, thanks for that !
Question, do you think putting the trim back to brand new factory specs would look better or having it professionally polished and polished nickel plating would look better ??
Everybody weigh in please...
Rog
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One pair of my daughters two pairs of split LSI with trim...
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My Daughters slant monitor Hersey's
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22 minutes ago, CECAA850 said:
Those should look really nice.
Thanks Carl,
I think they will but you are the first one to agree with me, Luther likes the idea better without trim..
Rog
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On 9/15/2020 at 7:53 AM, Matthews said:
no plans on veneering them. They will get a complete sanding down to the wood. There are a few minor repairs to make. Ultimately, they are slated for Plum Mahogany (version II). I liked the 1st pair so well, gonna do it again. That was the only pair I really had a hard time letting go. Keepers this time!
I plan on updating the AA crossovers with the Crites kit. They have 77 square, 55 spring lug. I haven't pulled the dog house cover yet to reveal square or round K33. Pretty simple restoration, just time consuming.
Congrats on your sale!
My money is on round magnet K-33E's
Make the new ones beautiful as well !!
Rog
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3 minutes ago, Marvel said:
Aren't the K-43 woofers cast frames as well? Looks like the ones in my MWMs.
K-43E's came in MWM's with cast frames and steel frames in Pro La Scalas but, the ones I have seen don't have the ribbed cones plus they have extra ribs cast into the supports between the part of the frame that supports the magnet and the part of the frame that suports the drivers surround.
Roger
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1 hour ago, MookieStl said:
Roger @twistedcrankcammer
Are you going to plane down (or sand heavily) the cabinets before veneering? I know the veneer is fairly thin but will change the outside dimensions enough to make the trim a bit short of the mark. Just thinking out loud. If you have a textured finish you are removing, that may be enough of a reduction before you add. Good luck.
Mike
Mike,
Both pair of La Scalas have textured surface and the pair of Heresy slant monitors have fiberglass.
A friend is doing them for me, but if I were doing it myself, I would remove the trim, Bondo the hell out of the surface and wide belt them.
I will try ta attach a picture of the veneer my daughter picked out.
Putting grills on all speakers and slant grills on La Scala Bass Bins.
Roger
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I recently bought a pair of K-77M Mud Magnet tweeters for $120 for the pair...
They were an earlier and to me, more desirable pair that have the little round silver PWK badges, unlike the newer ones with just the purple stamp.
If it were me, I would steer clear of K-77's that have new diaphragms because many of the diaphragms out there are junk.
I sold a single K-77 Anico round magnet tweeter for like $60.
Roger
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23 hours ago, Matthews said:
beaters on stand-by...
Dude !!!
What are you going to veneer them in ??
Those cain grills really looked stunning with the Black by the way !!
What drivers do you have in the beaters and what is your plan ??
I have four Pro Split La Scalas with Trim and two Pro Heresy Slant Monitors with trim that a friend is going to veneer in Santos Rosewood for my Daughter. Plans are to completely refinish all trim and put it all back on with the Rosewood. Currently I have Six extra K-55V solder terminal drivers and six extra K-55M drivers and I need to decide between K-55 Push pin, K-55 Solder Terminal and K-55M for voice on all these... I bought K-42 Woofers and they are installed into the slant monitors after an A/B session of listening. I also replaced the original Alnico round magnet K-77's in the slant monitors with K-77 square Mud magnet tweeters so all six match.
Roger
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Klipsch Missing Boat w/o "Heritage Subs?
in Subwoofers
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Scrappy Due owned one!
Roger