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Long time member and a nice straight drive up I-90. They'd be going to a good Klipsch home!!!!
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That looks like a great deal for someone. By the time I paid shipping I had about the same in mine and they are no where near as nice as those!
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I love this idea. I've got a pair of Quartet that the bases were damaged in shipping. I think this is the way to go!
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I went back and looked and when I was moving things around to make room for another amp I did end up using a stereo instead of mono cable.
Some say it doesn't matter, it does with a Panamax power trigger. Thanks guys!-
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I've read the manual.
Unplugging it might make some sense, seems to fix a lot of other issues with electronics!
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I know I'm dragging an old thread up from the grave!!!
I've got an old Panamax M5300-EX that I've never tried to use the triggered bank of plugs but now it would work great for my current set up.I know you have to have the switched plugs powered off, then plug the trigger in. I am wondering if maybe the trigger in the Panamax just died. It was working a few weeks ago after figuring out the switches had to be off before you plugged in the cable.
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3 hours ago, whynot said:
I have the Klipsch RP-500sa.
Front Atmos Speaker OnWall / Height
Back Atmos Speakers as Enabled Atmos configured and in use but i will change the next days to OnWall Height‘s as wellI too have a pair of Klipsch RP-500sa that I'm using as bounce speakers in the front. Do you have two pairs, using the rear as bounce at the moment?
I started with one pair wanting to try them to see if they gave me enough sound to avoid trying to do the in ceiling speakers.I use a Dolby Atmos demo disc to judge what I'm getting and I can tell even as bounce speakers they are making a difference.
I know people are using RP-500sa as height channels and Klipsch even has a switch for a different crossover when used at height channels but I wonder how that placement affects sound when the processor is trying to send the Atmos sound based on you choosing ceiling or reflective Atmos.
https://www.soundandvision.com/content/do-wall-mounted-speakers-work-atmos-setup
Seems like a lot of articles are saying they are not the right way to do it?
I just wonder if since Dolby holds all the cards to how the signal is processed if you are not using ceiling or reflective are you getting the correct sound signal from the processor? Yes you'll get something from the height speakers but is it the correct sound for that moment in the movie since Atmos doesn't have height channels?
I have no idea, I'm really asking a question looking for ideas
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Well somehow my 5.1.2 grew into a 7.1.2.
I moved my surrounds more to the side and put the rears about were I had the surrounds before since the room really doesn't lend itself to having the speakers as far back behind the seating position as Dolby would probably prefer. It actually sound great. Big improvement over the 5.1.2. It might even be better if the rear speakers were further back but I guess as long as the levels are set correctly I guess maybe the processor is helping correct it some. Anyway I noticed an improvement so I'm happy. I guess it never hurts to try and see what happens, usually just bad for my wallet...
As far as the RMC-1 so far so good. One time I had to shut it off with the power and let it reboot because I wasn't getting sound from any sources. In the RMC-1's defense, I was setting up different activities for my Harmony remote and I was doing A LOT of switching between sources so I have to give it a pass on that one. Overall I have no complaints and would give a positive recommendation for anyone looking to Emotiva for a pre/pro. I think they've worked out a lot of the bugs that were troublesome early on, and they still are releasing firmware updates so its nice they are still working on it more and more. I've read online Emotiva is still working on their bass management but since I only have a single sub it isn't much of an issue to me. A much better experience than I had with the UMC-1!
Now I'm thinking I may as well see what 7.1.4 sounds like... poor wallet... 😭 -
19 hours ago, Iteachstem said:
Good luck! You'll have to report back after you get it all figured out and let us know your impression.
As far as 4k goes, it's not really a big deal for me either. Our eyes can't tell the difference between 1080 and 4K on a 70" screen when you're more than several feet away from the screen anyway! But hey, marketing is starting to push 8k!!! I just want my next processor semi future proof, or at least future proof to me. I want 7 speakers and 2-4 smaller subs (for a swarm sub system ) and the ability to use HDMI cables instead of a mix of HDMI, toslink, etc. I have no desire to keep up with the latest insanity of trends such as dolby atmos.... sure, it might be better, (definitely better for speaker/amp/processor sales!) and maybe when I build my retirement home I will build it into the room, but unless you want your room to look like a college dorm room, I'll keep my smaller system.
Plus, most video content is not or rarely even 1080 from the most popular sources... Cable, Netflix, Prime, etc. And as far as audio goes, it's a mixed bag as well. The tech end (internet speeds, video/audio quality, etc.) need to keep up with the marketing end.
I agree with the 1080p vs 4k. The way the room lends itself my seating positions are about 10ft from the 70" TV so I'm sure there isn't any real difference for my old eyes.
"I just want my next processor semi future proof" In our hobby does that really ever happen? LOL. I agree with future proof for me. I ended up with the RMC-1 over the RMC-1L because after talking to Jake at Emotiva while placing my order I realized that the expansion modules could be a lot of different things, not just more speakers for even a larger Atmos or whatever tomorrow's surround sound might be. The modules might be things that have not even been thought of yet so I figured the RMC-1 with its 3 expansion bays would give me piece of mind that its about as future proof as a pre/pro can be.
What I plan to do with Dolby Atmos should be pretty discreet compared to some of the systems I've seen online. I just plan on doing a 5.1.2 set up first trying the speakers on top of my front right and left speakers. I went with a pair of Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-500SA to handle that job. I agree with you when I see set up diagrams of 9.1.4 systems that is a lot of speakers to figure out where to place. If I had a true home theater room that was built for a 9.1.4 and the speakers were in the walls and ceiling than that would be a different story. But I just have a basement that has to serve other purposes so I need balance I guess.
This quote is to blame for me thinking Atmos would be worth trying:
"If given a choice, I would take 5.1.2 over 7.1 as I feel it's a more immersive experience with the height effects channels."
Ed Mullen - SVS
I don't have room behind my theater couch to have rear surrounds so 7.1 isn't an option anyway. I've been reading a lot about Atmos and it sounds like for me going to 5.1.2 will be my biggest game changer in my system. 5.1.4 is an improvement but not the big jump the first two give you.
But again I know its all because I had the itch to get back into HT and now I want new toys!
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14 hours ago, Iteachstem said:
Now, I am getting the bug for a new processor as the one I currently have ( Integra DTC-9.8) doesn't pass a 4K signal. Not the end of the world as I currently go directly from my Oppo player to my TV, but it would be nice to have that option.
... let the search continue
I have a 4K TV but I've never watched 4k content since my blu-ray player is also older. I may have watched some 4k content when streaming but I don't know. I'm curious how much better the picture will be if/when I upgrade my blu-ray to something modern.
So 4k wasn't a big push for me, oddly enough originally it was the lack of eARC. My TV has a lot of streaming options but I only could use toslink to get the sound to my old 886 since it doesn't have ARC. I know you can get some of the codecs via toslink but eARC is really the best way to get them from the TV now that streaming sites are adding more surround sound content. I don't know the last time I rented a blu-ray. Streaming is so much more convenient. Then I decided I wanted to go to a 5.1.2 or 5.1.4 set up as my final excuse that I now "needed" a new processor.
Its all BS of course. We only need food, shelter, etc. I just wanted to get some new toys! I realize that an Emotive pre/pro might not be the best out of the box experience I can buy but I still remember the difference in SQ from my Onkyo PR-SC886 and the UMC-1. The issues of the UMC-1 drove me back to the 886 but the SQ was soooooo much better with UMC-1. So I'm going to take another bite off the Emotiva apple and hope for better results. My set up is pretty basic compared to some so I'm hoping issues will be none or few.
My RMC-1 will be delivered on July 8th, I can't wait!!!
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Thanks for the response Michael, I had already watched your review and it has a lot of good info. That was Sept 2019, so almost two years ago so too am hoping things are better.
I'm torn between buying a "big name" pre/pro that for the most part will just work when I turn it on vs trying an Emo pre/pro that I think from prior experience will sound better than the mass market pre/pros. I know the big boys have their own issues from time to time but its par for the course at Emo.
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Thinking its time to upgrade my old pre/pro and enter the modern age of eARC and Atmos. I'm considering going to a 5.1.2 set up since I don't think my area is big enough to need 5.1.4. From what I've read the big difference is having the first pair on the ceiling, adding the second pair isn't that big of a difference. I don't have room for a 7.1.2, the way my room lays out doesn't allow for rear speakers.
Against my better judgement I'm considering Emotiva's Gen 3 prepros (RMC-1/RMC-1L/XMC-2). I say that because my last Emo pre/pro was the UMC-1. I took two bites at that apple (second hoping software had fixed the issues I had the first time) and both times I went back to my old trusty Onkyo PR-SC886.Fast forward a lot of years, a different house and have the itch to get back into HT. From what I've read on the Emo forum things are not perfect with the Gen 3 units but then again you only hear from the guys with problems. There could be many happy users that have no reason to be on the forum searching for help. When I had the UMC-1 the SQ when listening to music was better IMHO than the 886 but I couldn't deal with all the bugs on the HT side of the UMC-1.
I've got a Emo amp and CD player and would like everything to match. Probably the dumbest reason to buy a brand I know, but the other side of it is the better SQ which I think we all can understand.
Soooo long story over... I would like to hear from Klipsch Forum members about their thoughts on the Gen 3 pre/pros to get a different perspective than I can get on the Emo forum. I'm sure if you own Emo you are probably a member over there too, just easier to talk about Emo when you don't have to worry about getting clubbed like a baby seal by the fan boys over there. -
On 5/23/2021 at 10:24 AM, EpicKlipschFan said:
if they arent too bad i would try & save the originals. you'd be surprised what some good wood glue can do for minor cracks & splits, its usually stronger than the original wood.
i had some forte 2's shipped a few years ago & the guy didnt pack them right either & split the seams on one of the risers. after looking into making my own i decided to repair the original one & it worked out great. theres a very good chance new ones wont match the wood grain or color of the originals, for mine that are walnut it would have been very hard to get a good match.
I'll probably give that a try, nothing to loose. I have wood glue and clamps so when I have time I'll give it a go and hope for the best.-
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I've got a DeWalt router I've never used. Along with Klipsch, I have a weird DeWalt 20v addiction...
I was thinking I could probably use it to recreate contour on the bases.
I just don't like that they won't be original but I guess not the end of the world-
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I found a pair of Quartet online and had the guy ship them. I've shipped a few different pairs of Forte ii so I know it can be done if packed right.
This guy didn't package them well and they arrived damaged. Still working on a resolution as he is trying to get UPS to cover it. But anyway...
One would be a matter of gluing it back together, but the other the particle board is cracked. I guess I could try to use glue and clamps and see what happens.
Wondering if anyone had any suggestions for replacing the risers? I'm thinking maybe just get some oak and make my own rather than try to recreate the particle board/veneer risers that originally came on them. What have other's done in the past? I did a search but didn't find anything. -
I would also set up an alert on Craigslist. You never know when something might pop up. Do it in all the areas you'd be willing to travel to to pick up what you want.
I live in Rapid City, SD so not a lot of Klipsch to chose from here but from time to time something pops up but you have to be quick because there are a few of us here always looking. Got a pair of Heresy recently and the women said after I contacted her she got three other people wanting them, then offering her more once they found out they were already called for.
For me Denver is where I can search and find almost anything I want if I'm patient. But is right about 400 miles so not something I have time to do very often. I really have to want what I found!
https://noticraig.com/how-to-set-up-free-craigslist-email-notifications/ -
I started my Klipsch experience with a pair of KG 3.2, then found a pair of 5.2 and moved the 3.2 to the rear. I had a KG-2 for a center. I hated the KG-2 and ended up finding an Academy and then transitioned to the Forte IIs. If I had found a KG 2.2 to use for a center instead of a KG-2 I may still be listening to the KGs. I really liked the sound, and for the price of KGs vs other Klipsch speakers they are hard to beat.
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I had 5.2s in front with 3.2s in the rear with a KV-2. The KV-2 was the weak link there. If I had had a 2.2V I dare say I might have stayed with the KG HT set up a lot longer. In my search to replace the KV-2 I found an Academy which started my move over to forte IIs. When I found my first pair of forte IIs I pulled the KG 5.2s out of the line up and still had KG 3.2s in back until found another pair of forte IIs and they sounded good. After we bought a different house and I didn't have the room to use forte IIs in the rear so I switched to some KG 2.5s until I found some KG 2.2s in oak oil that matched everything else.
So I guess I'd say that the KG ?.2 and ?.5 lines would work well if you don't have the room to use forte IIs. Just pick the size of KG that works for you. For the difference you'll spend on forte IIs vs any of the KGs I'd say they are the way to go for HT.
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I've got the older Audyssey MulitEQ XT in my Onkyo PR-SC886 and have always had great results. I'd love to get a newer Onkyo to get MultiEQ XT32 since I've read it makes a big difference but I'm so happy with what I've got I can't justify spending the money.
I've never used MCACC but I can say I'm much happier with Audyssey than I was with Yamaha YPAO.
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Has anyone tried them with the Verizon Wireless Galaxy Nexus?
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RAM is important and I'd not run less than 8 gb with W7...more on a 64bit system. It helps a lot.
Dave
I'm not too knowledgeable about PCs so sorry if this is way off. I've never bothered upping my RAM because when I look at the Performance tab on Windows Task Manager the physical memory usage meter shows that I rarely use half so I assume that tells me I've got enough memory. Am I understanding that information correctly? Windows 7 64 bit system with only 4 gb ram.
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I'll mirror much of whats already been said. I've owned a number of different Harmony remotes trying to avoid buying the Harmony One due to the price difference over the others since they all basically do the same thing. The One in the end had the best button layout for me so I went with it. I've had the One since December 2008 and have never looked back. I truly loving using it.
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Just got my new reference system put together last friday and it turned out great. The cherry veneer matches my cherry hardwood perfectly. Just wanted to share my home theater story and background. I got started in home theater a few years back when HDDVDs and BluRays came out. First I was just fascinated with HDTV and had a good friend that worked at HHGregg. Then one day he told me I should get some nice speakers and he had a set of JBL Cinema Sound CST55 towers marked down from $499 ea. to $100 ea. so I pulled the trigger and bought a reciever and JBL ES250P sub to go with it. This is when I began to appreciate good audio. I had always liked speakers but back then I was impressed by most HTIBs, this is when I really began to seek more knowledge and the desire for more performance. Eventually I purchased a matching center CSC55, and bookshelf surrounds CSB5 to match my towers. I was blown away by how much excitement I had been missing all of these years when watching a movie with poor audio. Then I upgraded my reciever to an Onkyo TX-SR606 and was introduced to high def audio, again another milestone that kept me engaged. I loved my JBL system, it was a looker and it sounded great. However I was always drawn to Klipsch, perhaps because my friend that worked at HHGregg had a Synergy system. I was still in college so I was on a pretty tight budget back then but was able to put together my JBL system, reciever and sub all for around $700, retail was probably somewhere around $2300 for my system so I was happy with it. However I'm the type of person that loves to change things up and after getting my business up and running and making a decent living I wanted to change things up a bit...I ended up purchasing a Klipsch SUB12 to replace my JBL ES250P first. Then shortly after Klipsch discontinued the XF line and Vanns had a blowout on them. I was always drawn to this speaker setup but never dreamed I would spend that much on speakers ($4495 retail), therefore never thought I would see those speakers anytime soon. I was able to unload my JBL system and SUB12 and Onkyo 606 to my brother in law for $1000 and put that money towards the XF-48 system and a new Onkyo 608 reciever which total ran me about $1600. The XF system is a beautiful speaker. And it sounded great, bass wasn't as great as I was hoping for or what I was used to with the SUB12, however living in a townhouse I couldn't play at a desired volume as often as I would of liked, so the XFs seemed like an even more reasonable move for me at the time. I had the XF system for a little over a year however it always left something to be desired, it was a cobination of the XL-23s lack of power and the lack of bass of the entire system. Sometimes the bass was there but sometimes it just wasn't when it should have been. So I tossed around the idea of adding a sub and switching out my center to a definitive mythos 9 or 10 but while I love good audio, cosmetics and esthetics mean alot to me and my wife as well so I think the cosmetic difference of the definitive would've bothered me even if it sounded better. So I just decided to change it all up again and unload my XF-48 system and wanted to get a reference line. Sold my XF system to a local guy for $1200 which was essentially what I paid for it a year ago so I was happy with that. Was able to put together a beautiful cherry RF-62ii, RC-62ii, and RB-61ii combo. Would like to thank JasonJCarney for the RFs, and USNRET for the RBs, and Acoustic Sound Design for the RC. The RFs arrived first from Jason just as described 9.5/10 and got them hooked up immediately. Was kinda glad it happened this way as it gave me some time with them as a stereo setup and would've been happy with just that. Got to listen and know the speaker well before I added the center and surrounds.The bass output on the 62s is greater than my XF48s which I wasn't expecting. Monday my RC and RBs showed up and got them installed immediately. Like I said cosmetics are important to me as well and these are beautiful speakers. The cherry veneer is beautifully matched with my cherry hardwoods. I made special mounts for the RC (I own a machine shop so this was easy to do, essentially copied the pinpoint center channel mount, just beefed it up a bit to hold the monster of an RC-62) to give it the floating on the wall effect which turned out great. I had to mount the RBs a little higher than ideal due to room constraints but still turned out good. At first my wife and I just thought wow these are huge speakers, especially compared to the JBL and XF48 systems we had previously had since both of those systems were flat panel design driven. However the size has grown on me and they really look great in the room. I've been blown away by the RF-62 setup, the sound is perfect. I am adding a subwoofer still even though the bass output with this system is greater than the XF system. It's something that I won't have turned on very often but want to have the capability to use the sub if the guys are over and we really wanna feel the bass. The subwoofer choice was the hardest decision of all. Literally for a week every single day I went back and forth between 4 or 5 subs. (Jason's Paradigm DSP3100, Epik Legend or Empire, HSU VTF-15H, or a Lava LSP12) Pretty broad range I know but let me explain. Considered the paradigm because I felt comfortable with Jason now after making the RF transaction and knew the sub would be as described for a great price $350. The EPIKs have always been the subs I've always wanted and been drawn to. Why ? I dunno really I just have. The HSU only because there was a like new one I could get basically for half off of what a brand new one would run me. The LAVA well because it seemed like the most practical choice, If you're an AVS forum member you can grab one of these for $287. And with my previous 2 subs, the ES250P and SUB12 were both more than enough for my room. I figured the LSP12 was going to atleast be on par with these if not a little better at a great price, plus I like the look of the sub, again cosmetics are important. The deciding factor was LAVA offers a 30 day trial period where if you're not happy send it back and they will refund your money. So I pulled the trigger on it and it should be here tomorrow. The output is supposed to be great from 35hz and up but falls off pretty quickly once you go below that. So EQing and room placement will be a key factor. I already know the sweet spot in my room and with audysseys help I think this will be more than enough sub for my room, but if not i'll send it back and most likely get a Legend. I've searched the Klipsch forum for LAVA subs and found no results and was a little surprised. Anyways I'll let you guys know my subjective opinion on the sub when I get it setup tomorrow and how it compares to the SUB12 in case anyone else is interested. Below I'm gonna post some pictures of my past JBL system, XF system, my new RF system, and some other random photos. Hope you guys enjoy my thread and thanks for looking and thanks for the wealth of knowledge this forum provides. Cheers!
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Advice needed on rears for Forte ii based ATMOS system..
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Mains: Klipsch Forte II
Front Atmos reflective: Klipsch RP-500SA
Center: Klipsch Academy
Surround: Klipsch KG-1
Rear: Klipsch KG 2.2
Rear Atmos reflective: Klipsch RP-500SA
Sub: SVS PB 12 Plus/2
This is my current set up. I've got another pair of KG 2.2s I've put in place of the KG-1s, I just like the looks of the KG-1s on the side.
There was a time when I had a 5.1 that I had five Klipsch Forte IIs. It was overkill on the rears. The center probably was better than the Academy but the Academy blends in better sitting on top of my entertainment center.
I'm basically running all old school stuff except the RP-500SAs. I've tried them hung up high and on top of my fronts and I think I get better effects on the fronts. On the wall up high I get louder effects but I think you get more overhead effects bouncing it off the ceiling. That said 100 guys will argue that so try both and do what works in your setup.