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Here's my understanding of damping factor. Like the others have stated, higher damping factors generally mean that the amp will have tighter control on the motion of the woofer. There can be too much of a good thing however. Higher factors are generally associated with high orders of negative feedback. When this is the case, the transient response of the amplifier worsens. As with many things in life, moderation is the key. The Heritage line of speakers should not require a high damping factor because the woofer cone motion is relatively small due to horn coupling. Another reason why I truly love the Heritage line, esp. the KHorns. Woofers that are long throw and therefore have higher excursions will require a higher damping factor to control their cone motion.

Hey Shock. To borrow an expression, "I feel your pain." I strongly recommend getting a Harman Kardon stereo receiver. I still haven't heard any thing better and the lowest power model, 70 watts/ch should more than enough for the La Scalas. The price should reasonable for you. I made the mistake of dumping my then 14 year old HK 730 receiver several years back and bought the new fangled home theater stuff from Denon. In the interim I also listened to a bunch of other amps and none of them surpassed the sound I got from my HK. In fact as an example, Krell's are some of the most overated unmusical amps I've ever heard. The HK's don't blow you away with some exaggerated performance initially. They sound very musical when you first hear them and over time you hear the subtle qualities in your music that make you appreciate their amps in the long run. Anyway I'm back to HK as my dedicated stereo setup with Magnepan speakers. The speakers are nice but nothing like Khorns which I plan on purchasing eventually.

"that's just being a sore loser disko duck. the U.S. supreme court simply had to react to a left-wing FL Supreme (kangaroo) Court that was out of control, i.e., changing their own set orders in the middle of their own game. & in case you haven't read the unofficial vote recounts, they all show that bush would have won FL even w/ the most liberal counting rules. even though the liberal tv networks released the results an hour before the polls closed in the FL panhandle. you have to ask how any organizations could be so ignorant. studies have shown that cost bush over 10,000 FL votes. maybe the networks should be directly taken over by the gov, at least at election time. i'm sure that's something you could go for. " Actually with the Senate going into Democratic party control, I'm quite happy geek. As for the recounts, my sources do not show that Bush would have won all. It all depends on which paper you choose and what data you wish to put emphasis on. What's interesting is that state's rights conservatives went to the Supreme Court on what are state issues, elections. Why were they so scared of counting the ballots, even the 67 counties attempted by the FL Supreme Court? If you don't know the outcome then why not let the count proceed and whoever wins wins. I guess even they (the shrub team) and the early projections knew the state went for Gore and therefore shrub fought to make sure this would not come to light. Speaking of early projections, it's been going on for years and they had it right. I guess when there is a coup d'tet, projections become meaningless.

"the dems will keep pounding in your head that the government will help you rather than you help yourself. they make you despise the wealthy so that they can raise taxes or not lower them as much. but where did all the money go for the tax increases of the early 90's? how much refund did anyone get back then. face it liberal democrats - you've been brainwashed by big brother! " Hello out there in the Hinterlands. The government helping you and you heklping yourself is not mutually exclusive. The "dems" just believe that the little guy ought to have some level of government help and access. Do you really think ADM, Enron, Mobil, etc. give money to politicians because they like the Armani suits they wear. Whose the one that's brainwashed! Some of that tax increase that help generate the projected surplus will used to give a range of tax payers some form of refund this year to help pay for that gas and electric bill.

quote: Originally posted by tblasing: I hate it when someone refers to a mandate as a "contribution". Ever try not contributing to the IRS? Yea! Like it's optional! As far as the homeless goes. The overwhelming majority of them are that way by choice. Alcohol? Drugs? Insesive gambeling? I'd like to see just one homeless person that had a gun pointed at their head being forced to get into the position their in. Near my office there are quite a few "lifer" panhandlers. They'll give you the sad pleading voice try to get your money but when it comes to talking to other people (friends) a second later, the sad faces and any physical abnormalities are suddenly gone. Never gave to one, not going to. One actually went accross the street and got into his 2000 Buick and drove off. As usual, the point was missed with the tax analogy. Instead a non-sequetur Bush like response follows. What studies have you read that said the overwhelming majority of homeless choose this? Why do I get the feeling that this is "half a brain tied behind my back" rhetoric.

quote: Originally posted by rowooo: discorules.....Forget sending your refund check to the New York state education department. I think all you liberals should send your checks down south to Florida's education department. That way they could jump start a program in elementary school that teaches youngsters the proper way to read and complete a ballot effectively. Good ole boys huh? You really don't want to start comparing character here do you? Finally, Hillary getting elected really does sum it up. What a JOKE. Remember it takes a village to raise your kids these days.............. I won't run from character comparisons so if you've got something, come with it. Slamming conservatives is child's play. As for Florida, Jeb and his cabal will be history shortly so his bro can't count on his help the next time he runs. Also, what is wrong with "it takes a village"?

quote: Originally posted by maverick: Don't forget, anyone that voted for Gore must return their refund check to D.C. Better yet send it to the state education department in New York. Maybe they can educate the locals on what a lying, stealing crook looks like. PS ITS HILLARY!!!!!!!!! I still can't believe they actually voted for this wacked out gypsy! At least she was voted in. That's Democracy, not a coup d'tet. What I can't believe is that 5 justices appointed a couple of multiple convicted DUI good ole boys to the White House. As for mine and everyone elses tax cut, shrub has already stated we should use it to pay for energy bills. The unelected wants us to give the tax money to his family interests and major campaign contributors.

Proud Liberal here. Talk about idiotic rantings from what reads like ditto heads. You guys blabber on ad nauseum about liberals and our supposed evil doings. Instead of spewing forth with the usual rhetoric, think then speak or in this case write. I read in this thread about the wealthy paying the most taxes and that was unfair. Try this simple bit of math. Say you have a group 10 people paying into a simple fair flat tax at a rate of 10%. Then say 9 of the 10 make $10 and thus pay $1 a peice in taxes. Lets make the wealthy one a $100 earner and thus pay $10 in taxes. Total tax revenue is $19. The wealthy one contributed about 52% of the tax revenues. As you can see, with a simple fair flat system a rich person pays more but no more than the less well off by a percentage of income. If rich republicans feel like they're abused in the system, swap places with the next homeless guy you meet on your way to church.

quote: Originally posted by xr7segfault: I picked up a gem of a turntable yesterday at a flea market. It's a JVC L-E600, linear. I'm a real gadget freak, so I enjoyed opening it up and seeing all the optical sensors that track the tone arm and all. It works perfectly, but unfortunately, it needs a cartridge. Here's where it gets interesting: I got an audio-technica P-mount. It was too big and it lacked a screwhole in the top of the cartridge, which the JVC's had. However, I found out that the removeable needle fit perfectly if I removed it from the new cart and put it in the JVC's, provided that I trimmed the plastic around the needle somewhat to accomodate the tonearm. I also noticed that the new a-t cartridge was the same size as the JVC's, under the glued-on plastic shell. I removed that, and I noticed that the metal shell of the cartridge itself had a provision for a mounting hole in the top, in the exact same location as the JVC's cartridge. It was blocked by a piece of plastic, though, and I'm hesitant to drill through it because I'm afraid I'll make a hole in something important. I don't have much experience with turntables. Does anyone know if it's safe to make a mounting hole in the top of that cartridge, or do I need a different one? The size is identical and would fit in the tonearm perfectly if I could anchor it with that screw. I don't have much experience with turntables, I'm only 18 so I grew up as they were dying out. I can remember when department stores sold a variety of cartridges and stylii, but not very clearly. If anyone could give me some info, I'd really appreciate it! Oh, and so this post isn't COMPLETELY off-topic: Those old albums sound really nice on my Klipsch speakers! I found an old RCA Red Label classical music album at the same flea market. I was STUNNED at the sound quality, even with the old needle and all. I would definitely advise against doing this. You risk damaging the cartridge, both in terms of sonic characteristics and shielding from things like AC hum. Your better served buying another cartridge, preferably a high compliance one from a company like Shure. Older tables like yours (mine as well, 1978) were generally designed to work with high compliance cartridges with low tracking forces. The newer cartridges tend to be opposite, low compliance and relatively high tracking forces.

quote: Originally posted by Prana-Bindu: Perhaps Klipsch can revive its high-end marketability by introducing speakers with high-quality horns at only the high and midrange frequencies and staying away from horn-loaded bass? Wouldn't that solve the size issue? Can Klipsch make Avantgarde's at Khorn or lower prices? The new reference speakers coming out soon seem to be a foray into contemporary trends in the high-end market, but they won't save the Heritage line. I hope that never happens. PWK had it particularly right with the Khorns. I still have plans on owning a pair once the kids are a little older.

Well mystery guest, I would say keep in mind the last live concert you attended. With that memory, use that as a reference when you are evaluating a system, in particular loudspeakers. Whatever comes closest in your mind to the real thing is something that might work for you. When I first heard the kHorns, I knew I found audio nirvana. It's lifelike presentation is the best I've heard.

Bunk. Talk about snake oil. Has anyone who really buys into this cable makes a difference crap performed a double blind test. I'm assuming no one here is talking about using 26 gauge cable for 20 foot runs. I just read that Dunlavey like myself, believes this is garbage. He ran such a test with 12 gauge zip cord. He told the unsuspecting listeners he was switching between various exotic cables while he was only using 12 gauge wire. Many of them claimed to hear differences when the switch was made. I guess if you believe something wonderful happens with cables then that's all that is necessary.

This sure has been entertaining and informative. I too bought into time alignment in the late seventies and experimented with my tweeter and midrange by repositioning them. I did notice effects that were spatially related but I wasn't sure if the overall response was more accurate. As was stated previously, there are so many factors that can change phase and time alignment starting from miking, I'm not sure how beneficial an exercise it is to make phase alignment the key aspect in speaker design, esp. if this alignment can only be realized at one point in space in an anechoic environment. I don't listen to music in that environment.

Time delays can be introduced in a crossover network using a number of series inductors and shunt capacitors. I had the formulas for this stuff somewhere which give impedance, time delay and high frequency max.

This is a great thread so I hope this keeps going. I'll toss in my grenade here. I know SS measures superior to tubes but my ears tell me tubes are closer to real. There are some fine SS amps out there that come close and because I like a little reliability in my electronics, I'll stick to SS. By the way, I'm partial to H/K amplifiers.

My understanding is delay is determined between the measurement instrument and the the actual drive mechanism in the horn. So unless there is some electrical delays, the drivers in a multi horn system is not time aligned. I don't know the engineering behind much of the heritage line but the most crucial instrumnet are your ears. To mine, nothing else comes closer to real than the khorns. I've heard fine speakers from ML, Magnepan, Infinity, etc. with excellent performances. My ears tell me however that the Khorns are doing the right things when compared to live music.

So given these room requirements, a Khorn is out of the question for me

Hey Guys, I also have the same issues in terms of room size. I am planning a room addition that's 15x16x8. Is this room too small for the Khorns?

Tech Hi Fi huh! This really brings back memories. I used to visit that store at MIT while attending Northeastern U. I ended up buying my H/K receiver at Tweeter. That was the same time period, '78, when I fell in love with the Khorns and it's ease in handling the 1812 overture with a little 25 watt yamaha receiver. By the way, what is the Khorn2 i see pictured at the site yet no info is provided on it?

So I wasn't just hearing things. I've heard this ringing on several brands of cd players. Is it inherent in CD or is it about how the CD is played back, i.e. one bit vs multibit, mega oversampling etc.?

quote: Originally posted by MBM135: Hey folks, Looking for a carousel CD Changer. I listen to a lot of jazz and some rock. Have a Harman/Kardon amp and KG4's. Already have a DVD to play single CDs but want a changer I can load up. Here are my wants: All-metal case Quite ops (don't want to hear the disk spinning just the music) Dual D/A converters Coaxial or optical digital output Remote not really that important shuffle play, good programming etc Overall good sound of course--but I'm not much of an audiophile--they all sound about the same to me And the kicker: $300 or less. May consider a preowned unit if recent model in outstanding shape. Any suggestions? Thanks, Mike Mike, I recommend Kenwood's CD404 or CD406. They meet your requirements and I have a older version, CD204 that has the features you're looking for and it sounds excellent. I purchased a Kenwood direct drive turntable over 20 years ago and it's still operating as well as it did on day one. I expect the same reliability out of the CD player.