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Cornwalls seem to be a nice party/rock speaker...where a little extra boom is acceptable. I prefer the design of the Chorus equipped with a rear passive radiator, to any of the front ported designs.

No, didn't imply is was- I don't even read that into my own post after re-reading it. IIRC the Yamaha T-85 was 260 wpc. It was far more power than he needed for KG4's in a 14x16 dorm room.

Those are nicer and cheaper than the beat-to-death la scalas I see out here in rural hi-fi hell. To me, they'd be a steal! A grillcloth or two is *significantly* less than $600...

Rediculously nice! And finally, a line of Klipsch speakers that are enough to make Stereophile kneel before Zod...

Speakers need more than just brute force to make the bass sound right, they need to be in a room appropriate for thier size. The room affects the sound to a great degree...something that amps alone do not overcome. Speaker placement....

Not confusing anything. Forte's work better and sound tighter in a smaller room than chorus (or cornwall) do. The bigger Klipsch need more room to breathe, and not to boom. They certainly do sound wrong in a smaller room. They sound "right" when acoustic space if provided and they aren't cramped.

The Forte II do have tighter bass than the chorus, while getting just about the same depth. In fact, for a medium room, the forte's sound better across the board because they match acoustics. The chorus in the same setting is a bit flabby.

The droid is surpassing the iphone in sales. I like Verizon much better than AT&T for coverage and service. The droid is an iphone killer IMO. The Tv commercial sounds vaguely reminiscent of a cylon centurion voice...

The Rega is a *MUCH* better arm! I think a Ortoforn Kontrapunkt cart or even a decent grado would be fine as well. (Assuming they fit)

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A friend of mine had some nice KG4's...new. He went overkill and bought a set of Yamaha M-85 separates because he liked the red meters on the amp. He had far more power than he needed. He decided to have a party in his dorm room. Cramped, of course. One of his buddies got too close and spilled a full cup of beer into the preamp and amp. The Warranty didn't cover stupid accidents.

At least one British audio mag has installed an upgraded arm on an SL-1200 and been impressed with the improved sound. I'm not sure, but it might be Hi-Fi World. As for rugged, they're not nicknamed "The Wheel of Steel" for nothing. I need to find that info! It won't just benefit me, but a LOT of people. The 1200 with a better arm and decent cart would be a giant killer...and I don't joke about that!

I'd be more concerned about quality than cost. Until it is proven that said low cost hi-fi stuff from India is reliable and durable I'd pass. China has been exporting all this time, yet somehow I am more comfortable with a Quicksilver than a Shanling, or a Cary instead of a Jolida. I'll stick with my low cost Indian dinner of palak peneer, Galic naan and chicken vindaloo.

One reason I don't use old amps... I remember attending a speaker demo. One of the amps, was an owners original parasound. It wasn't just fairly old, IIRC, the owner never shut it off. I happened to be there when one of the main storage caps (large beer cans) let go. It was a an aweful electrical burst. Luckily, it was out of the circuit via switcher. The cap in question peeled open and sprayed what little purple-ish electrolyte that remained all over the mother board. Electrolytic caps dry out anywhere from 5-20 years, and when they do---they short out causing catatastrophic failure. That is why they are banned from my speaker crossovers.

That, in a nutshell... is pain. Destruction of almost irreplacable property. Those ribbons are hard to find and expensive now. There is a guy that makes some substitutes now...but yikes.... Point of fact: a number of high powered 70's and 80's amps didn't just have crude protection circuits...but were unstable. Amps like Threshold stasis 1, and Nakamichi pa-5/7 would oscillate under a number of conditions. (Nakamichi liscenced the original stasis 1 from Nelson Pass)They had so much power, that often when they stabilized, the resultant pop (or pops during oscillation) would destroy speakers. With great power comes...great potential for destruction.

The salient detail I can recall is that while you can install a decent cart, the arm is fixed. As a ruggedized TT, I have heard a lot of positive reviews for the durability and sound for dollar.

I want a Buckminster Fuller "Bucky ball" sphere of speakers... dodecahedron.1!!! I am watching "The pacific" on HBO. There is *NO POSSIBLE WAY* 2 channel can convey the action like surround. Explosions BEHIND me...bullets whizzing by. And the low bass energy on this show is just rafter-rattling.

"One ring to rule them all" A coworker one day demo'd some magnificent and expensive Infinity ribbon speakers that he purchased in a Germany military exchange for 50% of the cost they are in the USA. Think of the deal, and the resale value if needed! He had it made. He got himself a girlfriend who lived with him 5 years. Never a word about the stereo, except how good it sounds. We'd go to his place to knock back a few and listen to tunes. He had one of the best stereo rigs in town...and bragged on it to anyone who cared to discuss it. They got married, and left for a honeymoon. ONE WEEK after the honeymoon she declares the speakers are too large, and dominate the house. THEY HAVE TO GO! "Yes dear." So instead of audiogon, ebay or anywhere else he could have gotten MORE THAN HE PAID FOR THEM.... he sold these massive towers for $500. $500??? Gee...that's at least 1/8th low book value. The moral of the story: Maybe there should be a stereo prenuptual. The ring changes everything.

"The Bose-oh" Yet another tale of a wanna-be DJ showing off his new gear... He declares to the small crowd: "My new Bose 901's can handle UNLIMITED power!" (So said the sales literature...so it must be true. Either that, or a step-down transformer somewhere inside.) He decided to crank his 901's up (which I could see were wired out of phase anyway) He maxed the volume and he dropped the needle on his turntable. There was a prodigious POP!... and the blown bose became door stops. For every foolproof protection device, there is a greater fool that will somehow defeat it .

"The Infinite idiot" While showing off his then brand-new Infinity kappa-9's amidst adult beveridges and tall tales of his stereo acumen... A coworker of mine was also bragging about his new kenwood amp. I warned him that amp didn't have enough current for these power hungry speakers. He would listen to nothing, as his pride and some longnecks clogged his ears. He decided to "really crank them up" After a horrible rasping bang... the expensive new Infinities went silent. Some people have to learn the hard way.

Scour ebay and audiogon. You can find a used Rega, pro-ject, Thorens and others. You can probably get them for $300-$400. Spend the rest on a cart.

Gather 'round kiddies... this thread is devoted to real horrible tales of hi-fi hell. My first bit ot putrid prose I like to call: "Dormitory of doom" There I was... in the mid 1980's at a friends dorm party. He didn't take care where he laid his cable...(literally, and figuratively). It seems they were a tripping hazard. 4 Klipsch la scalas were stacked precariously so that guests occasionally tried to squeeze by. One guest managed to step on his bungled bundle and short the leads. In one fell swoop: Four dead midrange horns. The extra bad part: two of them weren't his. Anyone else dare to share tales of gashed gear, bad sales, bad purchases or horrible divorce losses....?

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Luddite!!! Luddite!!! I remember some inert gas-pressurized (no kidding) cerwin vegas in quadrophonic. It was a neat effect. Technology does march on. I do not subscribe to mediocre surround or mediocre subs instead of a good 2 channel. That being said... There are some amazing multichannel recordings like the eagles, and a lot of classical like Holst---which does present 1st octave content in the music. The effect is like quadraphonic, kicked up a notch. Just listen to the harmonies of "Seven bridges road" in 5.1. Breathtaking, to say the least. I also don't skimp on subs. My idea of a sub is something that fills in between 20hz and 40hz cleanly, and blends with a system to reinforce, not overwhelm it. I don't want my sub to add a lump between 40 and 80hz like so many ht boom boxes do. For the music that does have content, the sub is there...but it's not welded "on". I can shut the sub off if I want to. I also believe in a separate, dedicated 2-channel system. A system devoid of bells and whistles like EQ's, compression, synthethsized bass or special phase/delay effects. I believe that a good 5.1 system can coexist in my house with a good 2 channel system. And don't forget.... another good old school hi-fi was a good set of Cans. Like now...Denon AH-D7000's. Isolated two channel bliss... with a nice headphone amp.

There is obviously a short somewhere causing the issue. Most likely, it is internal to the amp. Amp replacement or repair...period.