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Mike, Been a while since I have visted the board. I just got done with finals. I love the k-horns and the system I put together, but I'm moving out of the house at the end of summer and these will not fit the new space. Going to have to downsize even though I went threw alot to get these. One day I will own a pair again as they are in my opion the best used or new speaker for the money. I'm just glad I finally got a chance to listen to music the way it truly sounds. I went through alot of equipment in the last few months and the best I heard with these speakers was SET. I didn't think at first the low power would be enough for my musical tastes, but in the end it the k-horns and set amp was a match made in heaven. Well got to go but I will stay in touch. Justin

Well I'm moving and these have to go. These K-horns are light oak and I purchased them from the original owner in January of this year. They are mid 80's vintage with consecutive serial numbers. My asking price is $1700. The only mark on either speaker is a circle on the top of one where someone sat something on it, but it is nothing that could not be oiled out I just have not had the time. Let me know if you are interested and feel free to call me at 1-260-854-9319 ask for Justin. I'm located in northern Indiana about 20 minutes from Michigan area code 46784

It has been two months of waiting,but the k-horns finally arrived from N.C. on Sunday. It has been a while since I last posted. I took these last couple of months and did alot of research into the world of tubes.By no means am I an expert, but I have gained alot of knowledge about tubes.I also researched different equipment that I thought would suite my musical preferences. So far my 2 channel system consists of a cary spl98l, bat vk60, and of course my k-horns. On the way is a rega planet 2000. Right now all I have to use as a cd player is my sony dvd player and in one word the sound is magical. I have never heard in my home or anywhere else a system that sounds as good as the one I have. I have already started to experiment with different 6sn7 tubes and yes there is a difference between tubes. The only other upgrade I have to do is my cables and I have already decided to go with the DIY cables. I know mobile recommended I go set, but don't worry I have enough money left to pick up a set amp if I feel the urge to experiment. I thank everyone who gave helpful advice on this board and also over at AA. Although I never posted questions most of the ones I had where already answered.

Thank you for your responses. I have never heard any of these and I'm glad mobile gave me some ideas. Mobile Homeless, considering my musical tastes and the amp which I have chosen, do you think the wright sound labs or the aes would be better for my application. I also want the pre to versitile, in that I can try many different amp combinations with it if I don't like the sound of the otl. I got it for a good price and figured I would give it a try. I didn't get alot of info on different amps except the otl8 and the moondogs, which I will eventually try when my musical tastes have changed. I open to any oponions on a preamp or amp in that matter that would suit me.

The AE3 superamp was designed by the owner of cary and is sold by upscale audio. Go to there web site for more info.

That would happen to be JBryan!

Well here is an update and a few more questions. I have decided to purchase a transdescent otl8 from a very helpful person I met here on the klipsch website. All i have left is the preamp for my new system. Here are the ones I have narrowed it down to: Emotive Audio Erato, Jadis DPl, White Audio labs vt1, Sonic Frontiers sfl2, Joule Electra LA100, abd the Ah-3 DJH preamp sold by upscale audio. They are all within the 1000-2000 price range used except for the ah-3 DJH version that I can buy new for 1400. Any help in this decision process would be very appreciated.

Well Mike I have two places that are near that deal with tubes. The first was a place that carried Cary amps. They where hooked to some klipsch ksp400. Sound was a hell of lot more natuaral than any solid state I had ever listened to. I brougth with me a copy of kenny wayne shepherd and tantric. The next tubes I listened to where at a B&W dealer. The tubes where mac and they where powering a pair of b&w 803. I was not at all flattered by the sound they produced. They did sound better with the mac tubes than some solid state gear by classe that was hooked to another pair of 803's. In my oponion the klipsch with their 3000 dollar Cary amp sounded a hell of lot better than did the b&W mcintosh 15,000. Of course this is my oponion judged by my ears. I love the sound the tubes produced through the klipsch.

Well everything has been sold except the soveriegn so if anyone wants it make a reasonable offer.

Well I'm torn between two tube amps. First is the transdecent otl-8 and the second is the bat vk60. The bat uses single ended circuitry, but provides more power than a moondog or the transcendent. It is going to be one of these two so could someone please help me in making my decision. I do not have the ability to hear either so I'm going to have to play it by advice.

Thanks for all the replies. JBryan, I'm not to much into over down bass with gobs of thump. Just quick bass you can feel while listening to dynamic music. By the way I love the sound of horns. I sold my klf-20 setup a few months back and bought a pair of paradigm studio 100'sv2. While they where nice speakers they didn't have that feeling that I got while listening to my klipsch. So I got ride of them and I listened to many speakers, including the B&W nautilis 803(way overrated)nht 3.3,psb goldi and anyother speakers I could listen to within a 200 mile radius. Nothing to me came close to the sound that I remembered from my klf series. So I figured you never have enough of a good thing so I found a pair of khorns and jumped on the opurtinity to buy them. I can't wait to hear them in my home. I think based on the information that everyone has given so far that a transcendent otl8 might just be what i'm looking for. If I decide that it is not what I want then I could sell it and get a moondog. I do also listen to other types of music besides rock. I also like some classical and a few jazz albums. No matter who it is I like a lot of acoustic guitar. At first I hated bands like creed and other new age rock groups, until I saw them in concert. Also where have or do you now of an trandescent otl8 amp selling for 900. I would definitely pick one up. Also have you tried the upgrade from trancendent that lowers the noise of the amp. Also at this moment I'm listening to the eagles through a pair of sb3's that i bought my dad for christmas.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to be sensative. I realyy do apperciate your help, mobile homeless. You know wayaround tube gear and I'm just trying to find the etup for me that gives me the best sound for the type of music I listen to. I went over to look at the otls, they look like nice amps. What about the big brother the otl i think it was 8. Have you ever heard this one matched to a pair of k-horns. right know I'm open to all possibilities on the equipment i should pair with my khorns. I agree on the subject of not using a sub with music and also keeping the ht and music system seperate. I got ride of my ht setup to go strictly a two channel one, because I listen to music 90% of the time and could never get the sound in music I was looking from my H.T. setup. I'm not really into all the audiophile terms. I just think that if a system sounds the way you or I want ours to then we each have the best system in the world to us, because that is what you or I like. I'm just looking for something to work magic with my khorns, nothing more or less

Thanks Mike for telling me to ask this question here with many fellow audio enthusiasts who have been very helpful.

I knew some of you where going to give me a hard time about liking certain bands, but don't judge em until you see them live. Creeds concert walked all over the aerosmith concert I went to. Just to let you know I'm 20 And have always listened to rock, not heavy metal, but just rock. I also listen to stevie ray vaugnh, led zepllin, pink floyd, and a host of others. Given some of these bands don't put out the best of recordings, some of them put out pretty good ones. I don't listen at levels that drive someone out of the room. Everyone has there taste of music and mine is what it is. I do appreciate all the help on this though.

It sounds like the moondogs are the way to go. I have a few other questions. I listen to most rock, for example creed,lifhouse,etc. I like to listen at around 90-95 decibels from my seating position of around 15 ft. away from where the speakers will be located. My 2 channel only room is about 16ft. wide by 22 ft. long. Will the moondogs provide the sound you describe and this is the sound I'm looking for, at my given listening levels and the dimensions of my room . Also what preamp would you recommend to use with the combination of the khorns and the moondog. I have a little over a thousand left after I purchase the amps to spend on a preamp. Once again thanks for all the advice.

I know. I know that I want to go tubes. Right know I'm looking at a BAT VK60 does anyone have experience with this tube.

Hello, Thanks for all the replies. So what you are saying is that going low powered set amps that the klipschorns will not supply sufficient bass output. They will be used for music only. I would like to use them without having to implenent a sub. Would going higher power tube amps supply sufficient bass?

Well my khorns will be arriving in a few weeks and within this time I would like to purchase a tube set up for them. My budget is $3000. Around 1000 for a preamp and 2000 on an amp. Any suggestions would be appreciated. The only other peice I have picked out for the system besides the khorns is the ah tjoeb cd player.

Hello, Well its been a while since I visited, but I have been shopping. I have a pair of khorns on the way so all my H.T. stuff has to go. Here is whats for sale: -Aragon 4000mk11 $700(200*2 into 8 ohms,400*2 into 4 ohms, 700*2 into 2 ohms) The amp is in mint condition)stereophile class B -ATI 1502 $450(150*2 into 8, 225*2 into 4,Bridagable into 450*1 into 8 ohms) -kenwood Sovereign 5700 reciever $1000 Purchased from local dealer one month ago for 1500 it has a four year parts and labor warranty.It is thx ultra certified,120*5,dts6.1 and DD Ex. Any more info can be had at kenwoods website.

Well I think I'm going to end up keeping my klf20, but I'm going to buy either the klf30 or the chorus II.I have heard the 30 and they sound better than my 20's. I have not heard the choruses though, but have read a lot of positives on them. I can pick up a pair of mint choruses for 500 dollars. Has anyone compared the 30's to the choruses. I brought the rf7 home and could not see how it was worth spending 1700 dollars on them so I returned them. Don't get me wrong they sounded good, but I like the 20's.I just would like a speaker with a little more in the lower octaves.

I do have the original boxes and packaging, so I guess I could ship them. I just have nad bad luck on a few occasions shipping anything of weight with u.p.s. So I will ship them, but the price goes up to 730 plus shipping and still 700 if you are within a few hours of where I live. I can meet halfway.

Well I have decided to buy the new rf7 and in doing so have to unload my klf20's. They are 1 year old and are oak. They look brand new and do not have a scratch on them. They where purchased from a local authorized klipsch dealer. I'm asking 700 for the pair and I will not ship them. I'm located in northern Indiana area code 46784. I will meet half way up to 2 hours driving distance. Please feel free to post or e-mail me any with any inquiries.

Nothing else is hooked up to the tv besides the s-video cable. NO other connections run into or out of the tv. The tv is plugged into the monster hts 1000 and the s-video runs from the dvd to the tv. These are the only two connections.

Well here is an update. i tried the cheater plug on the amp and the humm did not go away. So I unhooked the receiver and took it upstairs, hooked up to my dads system and the humm was still present. I then called my local AV dealer where I purchased the denon and they told me to bring it in and they would hook it up and see if the humm was caused by the denon. They did and the humm was still present. So since I had a 30 day trade policy, I decided to move on up the audio chain and get a new receiver. I listened to many receivers from the denon 4802 to the marantz sr19ex, but one receiver stood out and smoked them both in 2 channel listening and that was the new kenwood sovereign 5700. I was leary of buying a kenwood since I used to own one and it sounded like sh**, but this new line is a whole new bread. To sum it up I went home and hooked it up to my ati, fired up the system and the hum was still there. Unplugged the s-video from this receiver and hum was gone. Don't know why but I not complaining and I have a awesome receiver to boot. Thanks for all your help.

Sorry for taking so long to reply. I tried from home the other day but every time I went into this post I got an error message and it wouldn't let me post. As far as the hum is concerned I know that it is not totally due to the tv. If I unplug the s-video from the denon and unplug the tv from the surge protector the hum is still there just not as loud and noticable from my listening position. I have also unplugged everything from the back of the denon accept the the connection from the denon to the amp and from the cd player to the denon and the hum is still present. i have not tried the 3 to 2 adapter, but plan on picking on up tonight after I get my college done with. I also noticed that the speakers continue to make this hum for about 10 seconds after the amp and denon are turned off. The amp also has a sound eminating from it if I put my ear up to it. Also yesterday I hooked the speakers up to the denon and the humm was not there. Also I do not notice a big difference between the sound of the ati and the denon. Or should I. Thanks for all the help. I'm sorry about taking sp long to post, inbetween the probem with my computer and my engineering tests at school its been diffucult to post.