WakeJunkie

If you have seen my thread you know I Love the Beanbag! https://community.klipsch.com/index.php?/topic/143424-ht-upgrade-wet-bar-at-screen-fireplace/ I recommend www.comfysacks.com. I have the two of the 8ft and love them (one in the HT one in living room). I don't think that one will fit, but they have smaller available. If you can fit a 7ft you will not regret it since you can lay all the way in it. 8ft fits my family of 4 easily with room to spare. As far as lighting. I went with Lutron Spacer system and absolutely love it. I have 4 zones in a similar size room. (35x18). It gives me 4 presets for each zone that allows me to set the Harmony for different events. I have can lights and after some tweaking with pliers and a bass test CD I was able to get rid of the rattle. I was not concerned about sound transfer at all so I just mounted mine between the joist and painted the joist black. 8ft ceilings feel short when you add a drop ceiling under it, with the open joist it feels like a 9ft ceiling. My zones: 1: left and right of screen 2: halfway between bar and screen on the far left and right. 3: over the third row bar (eating lights that also light the theater seating right in front of the bar) 4. back lighting around pool table (wet bar area for you.) I would make sure any lights you use project almost completely down. Light wash onto the screen can really hurt contrast, but shadows when people walk around behind you are the worst. I found that when I had standard bulbs instead of reflectors in my pool table light. I think you would like it the same way, just put a light switch at the back wall wet bar area and the rest of the room on a remote controlled lighting like the Lutron and I think you will be very pleased. Also, you don't have to have all 4 dimmers in the room. My dimmers are located in the equipment room next door and only the one-gang master control switches are visible. Much cleaner look. Make sure you put a master near your equipment so the IR picks up. I highly recommend going with a DIY AT Spandex screen. I have been quite impressed with the contrast. I went with silver over white. Material cost for my 130" 16x9 was $84 shipped.

Alright Gentlemen....the moment you have all been waiting for. I am looking into building a better sub. I have room for IB sub with the workshop on the other side of the wall. I have a single 15" now and want to take it to the next level. I drop out below 40Hz and even my wife has noticed it and suggested since we have a common interest we should see how much it would cost. Thinking about a pair of 18's, but open to suggestions. Especially specific models for subs and amps. Cost will be the limiting factor as with any project, but not looking to half do it.

I used the screen tight tracks from Lowes as shown in this post:https://community.klipsch.com/index.php?/topic/143424-ht-upgrade-wet-bar-at-screen-fireplace/?p=1630568 Pulling it tight wasn't bad at all. I got my wife to help so one is pulling and the other putting in the spline. White in the outer track, silver on the inner track of the screen tight. (silver over white) I started in the middle and worked toward the edges trying to keep even tension, not pulling it as tight as possible. Didn't take long. Screen tight is the way to go. I had one tiny ripple near a corner that would have been a huge pain if I had been using staples. Pulled out a foot of spline gave it a tug and put the spline back. Perfect!

Sorry I missed this question. I had concrete block behind them before the stone. I can't tell any difference. I think both do a good job of bass reinforcement.

That is exactly what I did with mine. Movies, Football, and Gaming. All needed to be great. Constant Width screen with electric masking top/bottom fit the bill nicely for me. To me a scope screen is a great fit only if you don't watch much TV or game.

I have a 130" Silver Spandex screen. That is as big as you can go from typical spandex suppliers (60" width. (details in my build) https://community.klipsch.com/index.php?/topic/143424-ht-upgrade-wet-bar-at-screen-fireplace/?p=1630568 Spandex source: https://community.klipsch.com/index.php?/topic/143424-ht-upgrade-wet-bar-at-screen-fireplace/?p=1625866 A screen that size with the Center Channel below or above will be very noticeable. AT screen is the way to go IMO. I love my Spandex screen more than I ever thought possible. It really is an impressive picture. It was noticeable when I had the Center below my 100" screen. The bigger the screen the further the vocal audio moves away from the video source and your brain can tell they are not coming from the same place. With the AT screen it appears the people are talking from the screen itself instead of below it.

Yes...I believe you are. ;-) She said she did her research and knew they were expensive. She then agreed to a price and sold her Ex-husband's junk that was taking up space in her garage. Frankly, I have little pity on anyone that would toss Reference Series Speakers in the garage and think of them as "in the way."

I have to admit that my visit to Youthman's was quite impressive. Three flagship systems under one roof....WOW. The two channel setup was overwhelming. My wife sat in front of those RF-7ii's for several hours while Youth and I worked on projects. Song after song completely impressed herself. After the demo of the 2-channel all I could really say was WOW. They are simply stunning both audibly and visually. His living room décor and comfort really add to the experience. This is a very nice room! I have heard Youth's HT several times and enjoy it each and every visit. After mounting the new RS-62ii's we played some demos and the room really has a great overall sound. Very full, plenty of clean bass. This was my first visit since the acoustic treatments and that was a huge difference. It was noticeable in the first few seconds in the room just talking. The room is noticeably quieter without being dead. Between the treatments and jumping to 7.1 with the new 200Wx7 amp he really has bumped up to the next level with this room. I myself took home a pair of those RF-7ii's and my wife and I have lost count of the hours spent laying on the giant beanbag playing songs on Spotify. If you have a HT or a 2 channel and have not hooked up a PC to your system for Spotify or similar you are missing out.

I love the wording that accompanied the pic of my HT. VERY fitting to how we like our RF-7ii's!

Last time Ron saw my HT I had a pair of Synergy B2 speakers on stools since I had sold my RF-3ii's and was waiting on the RF-7ii's arrival. They do make my screen look smaller....but I think I will settle for these babies.

What about the room prevents mounting them? Some of us don't play by the same rules others tend to and mount speakers where most would think impossible. A mount could always be fabricated to secure them to most stands designed for bookshelves, but that may not be your only option. Post a room pic with dimensions. I'm sure we can come up with something a lot better than boxes.

LOL....The comment about the 24" subs was a joke. I was referring to Scrappydue's post.

I don't currently plan to add a ceiling. I actually really like the look of the black joist with all the wiring in conduit. It also gives the basement a taller feel. It is 9' floor to top of joist so the basement does not feel like a basement at all. I am afraid adding a ceiling would make it feel smaller. As far as the sub goes I got to thinking about it and the positive reinforcement really explains a lot. My sub is turned WAY down. It is a pro audio sub so there is a level converter between the receiver and the sub. Before I moved the sub into the cubbie It was straight up at 0, and the sub was just over half and the calibration software was able to get within its +- 12dB. After the move Youthman was at the house the first time I really got to fire it up with "Art of flight" and it was crazy LOUD and overwhelming. I manually turned it down. I later calibrated and audacity had set the sub to -12dB, lowest possible setting. I had to turn the converter down below 1/4 and the sub all the way down and audacity finally calibrated within range at around -8dB. My theory is that I need to put the bass trap back in the corner and zero out everything and recalibrate. This should bring the sub levels back up where I expected them and clean up the bass. This should be a major improvement at least until I get my pair of 24" IB subs built. ;-)

If you can get Ron's RF-3ii's and pretty much any airplay receiver within budget they will be blown away. If they were going to go with a soundbar then comparatively speaking that system would seriously impress. It would also be a good start to a real HT system. I was very happy with the RF-3ii's for years and would still have them if you hadn't beat up that lady and taken all her speakers.

I have some rigid acoustic insulation that I plan to build my panels out of and stacked several in the corner opposite the sub last night to see what a bass trap there would do. 6" thick 4' wide and floor to ceiling on the part of the wall that sticks out into the room near the foosball table. Back left corner where Sub is front right. It killed my bass. Not completely gone, but at lease a 30% decrease. Apparently I am living on positive reinforcement and that is why my sub seems to put out so much. Not what I was hoping for...

Same here, but when I saw these babies I fell in love. I always wanted the cherry wood, but honestly I couldn't be happier.

I didn't realize the 7ii's were taller than my 9yr old....

Pan taken this wide gets a bit of fisheye look to it, but this way you can see what the room looks like.

Yes, recessed into the block wall behind the AT Screen.

Thanks, I had a chance at original RF-7's in Cherry, but they would be a different color than the wood already in the room. I (and my wife) both like the black better. Took a pic with my real camera tonight.

Front row (Giant Bean Bag) is 8ft from 130" 16:9 screen and it is perfect. Second row theater seating is 12-13ft and is very immersive. Third row is 16-17' and is great, but could definitely be bigger from that range. I had a 100" before and it never felt big enough. From 14' 130-150" range would give you that big screen feel without feeling like you are watching tennis. My Epson 8350 does great in a completely light controlled room at 130" on a silver spandex screen. Even with some low ambient light during football parties it looks great.

The RF-7ii's are HOME! I had a great vacation hanging out with Youthman and his wonderful family. Returned home with a truck overloaded with lots of great new toys. RF-7ii's, RC-7, RS-35's to go with the RS-35's I already had. This system is simply fantastic! The soundstage on the 7ii's is almost unbelievable. In 2 channel mode I still swear I can hear the center channel... So much that I had to get up and check...nope....the 7ii's sound that good. I was also impressed with the RC-7. Watching football Saturday night I notices a SIGNIFICANT improvement in center channel performance over the RC-3ii. The soundstage on the RC-7 is wide enough that it sounds like the sound is coming from the mouth of the person no matter where on the screen they are. The RC-3 always sounded like it was coming from the center of the screen. I thought that was great. I had no idea it would sound that much better. I also added a media PC in the HT this weekend that emulates Airplay. It has a digital audio out, and so far I have been pleased with the result.

I second the Acurus vote. I got to do a side by side comparison between NAD, Parasound, and Acurus. All with compatible wattage. Not a huge difference, but the Acurus had tighter bass and better distinction between instruments. Very clear and crisp sound.