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On 12/16/2018 at 2:59 PM, mopardave said:
Ok, I pulled the old K77's out of the Super Heresy's today and replaced them with the DE 120 with the MAHL lens DaveA sent me. Listened to alot of different music before i made the switch. Not sure these are brand new or used, but my first impression was the sound stage wasn't there like the K77's i just removed. After a short time listening i started to here a more pronounced sound stage. Maybe just my ears. I bumped the volume up to 90db from 75/80db and was better again. Bumped it up again to 95/100db and it was sounding pretty good. The symbols do sound cleaner with more detail in my opinion. Definitly an improvement for sure. If these are brand new maybe they require some burn in time? The one thing i really notice with these Heresy's is the vocals need some improving. They have a bit of hollow horn sound. Not bad, i'm just being a perfectionist. I'm using K55m mids with original diaphram , I think these are 1982 versions. Kinda like having too much mid range. Some recordings are better than others in that respect. How do i clean up the vocals? I'm using JJ KT77's, maybe just the tubes?
As noted in various places those DE120's do need to break in. When they are you will know because it goes from a bit strident to musical. I normally leave them on for a day and a half at moderate volumes and it eems most the breakin gets done by then.
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1 hour ago, Westcoastdrums said:
MHAL I mean whatever that acronym is for the new wooden horns. I like....
Still MAHL but followed by Machined Walnut or Red Oak. You can say MAHL but not MWHL or MROHL so it is what it is. Probebly will change it to MHL before I get a web site going since MAHL is pretty specific.
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5 minutes ago, jimjimbo said:
Even better, come to the Pilgrimage at the end of April in Hope AR, meet lots of good people, listen to speakers at the factory and form your own opinions.
Ask here for forum members close to you that have vintage speakers you can listen to. Listening to speakers first is a great idea. I would not touch cabinet damaged Forte III's under any circumstance. There are two pairs of Forte I's for sale right now on Craigslist near you for $800 and $700. Probably get them for less and they would make great speakers for a first buy. They are close enough to go listen to also.
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3 minutes ago, Fish said:
I'm gonna start by saying what I know about caps would not fill a small sticky note. I certainly don't think all amps sound the same....but.... I do have a ? Do caps all sound the same if they have the same values/specs ? I recall Bob Carvers challenge to stereophile I think it was. He said he could equal Conrad Johnson sound for 1/10 the cost. He challenged anyone to pick the CJ consistently. Stereophile admitted no one could pick the difference, except they preferred the Carver. I post from memory but I think that was the basics of it.
I suppose my point was Bob always refuted the high dollar caps etc....But, maybe cheap caps don't last or perform as intended for years/decades?
This thread will get to 100 pages easy now.
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2 hours ago, ODS123 said:
No.. NOT just trolling. I wholeheartedly believe in what I've said in this thread.
It is great to enjoy my morning cup of coffee and my chuckle for the day as I get ready to go work on speaker stuff. I raise my coffee cup to you Coytee!
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18 minutes ago, Zen Traveler said:
Yeah, but it depends on who is looking in the mirror. Fwiw, I understand the OP's frustration in
folks"the beginner," putting too much emphasis on how an SS amps sounds and the most important thing is to get good speakers and work backwards. For most people that will be more in the processing than the amp/power section...Otoh, believe in DBT testing or not, but those expressing gear adds to the emotion sought and not limiting it to processing (or preferring tube amps,)while putting the emphasis on the amp baffles me. If you are supply your speakers with enough current to play without distorting at the SPL you want then most modern SS/AVRs that fit your needs, imo.That said, I no longer have has much interest in trying to convince others and have reminisced about discussions that seemed more important in the whole scheme of things. Fwiw, those are my thoughts.
Btw, this seems like a good comment backing up his premise to me....Not that it matters.
Oh I agree with Bob entirely and those Sonicaps are as fancy as I will ever get. I check things out with the same meter Bob uses for capacitance and inductance and believe good measuring caps do the trick not the amount you spend. I am just having fun with OD talking about things from a lofty perch again.
I doubt highly OD is the least bit concerned with beginners and how they spend money. If he truly was this whole thread would have entirely different comments from all sides. He is here to pontificate not to have a meaningful discussion.
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Please I don't mean to be rude but
1 minute ago, ODS123 said:..Isn't he a note authority around here?
should be "Isn't he a noted authority around here".
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25 minutes ago, Tizman said:
Okay, I’m done for real this time. Counter-trolling isn’t that interesting after all. Time to start building stuff. I’ll see you all in the other threads, where I’ll be asking questions and learning from the many of you that know more than I do, rather than telling anyone what’s what. Bye ODS123! Congratulations on this monster thread. It’s been fun, kind of...
You like train wrecks as much as the next guy don't you?
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1 hour ago, Zen Traveler said:
To take your point it seems that is exactly what is happening on this one and so far he is getting a lot of traffic! Kudos.
The term you are looking for is theater of the absurd. It is free entertainment and how can you not want to see the latest absurdity? "Audio connoisseur fixation", a phrase I can chuckle over for some time considering the source.
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3 hours ago, ODS123 said:
That said, I'm not surprised that that has now become an area of audio connoisseur fixation.
I just love your phraseology. Audio connoisseur fixation. Very Freudian. I take it capacitors would be another area you have no practical experience in?
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5 hours ago, ODS123 said:
Sorry to be pedantic but you said "infers" when I think you meant "implies". From Lawlessenglish.com:
"Imply and infer are two sides of the same coin: a speaker or a writer implies, whereas a listener or reader infers, and for ease of remembering, these two actions occur in alphabetical order. First, I imply, and second, you infer. I’m not implying that you won’t make this mistake any more – I’m just coming right out and saying it. I hope you’re inferring the same thing."
Anyway, I feel comfortable with that assumption. I am also comfortable with the assumption that everybody who participated in this using speakers other than their own offered as an excuse, “well my system is more revealing - I could certainly hear a difference on my system!"
Gosh you are even a grammar cop in addition to all the rest! So basically you swallow it hook line and sinker? Unknown speaker types are valid test beds? Am I assuming this correctly both in thought and grammar?
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On 11/20/2018 at 3:54 PM, Delicious2 said:
I was taught early on in my life-long audiophile hobby that the minimalist/purist approach was best. This has fit right in with many years not having much cash to spend 😁 I'm now starting to think that there are macro factors to get right about a home reproduction system and there are micro factors. I've been fooling with the micro factors much of my career without getting some macro factors right until now. It is a revelation and very enjoyable!
I was not taught this but I believe it and the more complexity you can eliminate the better off you are. As I finish up the S-MWM's this coming week I have to use a xilica for time alignment and have to enter into the world of more to get the good sound I seek and read about. Being a minimalist can mean you miss some things you felt were not necessary and this journey of yours is of interest to me. You don't know what you don't know and each step up is an eye opener.
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8 hours ago, ODS123 said:
haha... nice try. Remember, the $10k RC Amplifier Challenge allowed participants to use their own speakers if they chose. ..So considering thousands took the test I think it's safe to assume there were plenty of Klipsch or other horn speakers in the mix. As a reminder: no one ever claimed the prize. That alone settles the debate, for me anyway.
Oh wow you mean that? "Safe to assume there were plenty of Klipsch or other horn speakers in the mix" infers we are to believe the conclusions without knowing what we are concluding from. And that settles the debate for you? That is what you wrote you know.
Thanks for another day where entertainment starts before I even fill the wood stove. I don't use MDF though as it does not even burn well.
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Yeah they might not. So when are you and your Huskies going to sled over there? Tell you what if he would wait for summer I would go in a heart beat and ride the Cumbres and Toltec narrow guage.
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All horn setups are better. The problem is the size you need to dig deep in bass.
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1 hour ago, ODS123 said:
As for your tube amp, to put it another way: ..If your tube amp is audibly distinguishable from a S/S amp, then why would you prefer it?? ..And if it isn't, then, well.... why would you prefer it?
Well they use them in train stations and bus terminals and the vagrants love them. Are you saying the vagrants don't know what they are talking about? Who are you to judge them? If you can't walk a mile in their shoes then you have no right to opine on amps.
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Thanks. I have to admit the speaker radar went off when I saw this because that is some awesome stuff. I am interested more in the big boys and not the La Scalas which just don't cut it any more. OUCH 1200+ mile drive each way in winter though it would have to be a deal.
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1 hour ago, Tizman said:
No doubt. I've read a few recently in this forum. Not dumb though, the references should be contentious or no one will get annoyed enough to argue with me about my claims and advice. I need to bone up on my trolling technique...
OK rule # 1 is you are always right and know more.
# 2 is when speech bludgeons do not work deflect deflect deflect.
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Yes and I would ask Dave A too since he buys lots of Klipsch Pro gear.
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8 minutes ago, Tizman said:
Since we are talking about distortion, what impact does a passive radiator have on linearity and distortion? Dumping the whole spice rack into the stew?
I just have this little vignette of OD arguing with his math teachers about 2+2=?
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22 minutes ago, ODS123 said:4 hours ago, Dave A said:
So what specifically would you recommend to a beginner that would work right regarding your comment?
It's not obvious? I'd recommend that if he/she is apt to be bothered by a channel imbalance than some means to adjust relative volume b/w channels is a MUST, either a balance control (easy to find) or separate L/R volume controls (rare, but there are a few).
The gift that keeps giving.
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43 minutes ago, Marvel said:
BTW, using eq doesn't cause signal breaks but can totally mess up the phase of a single instrument. As ChrisA has shown in his de-mastering thread, the excessive eq and compression of a final mix can totally screw up a stereo/multi channel mix.
Amen to that and thanks to Chris for his work with Audacity there. It is fun to watch people as you take their source material and run it through Audacity.
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59 minutes ago, ODS123 said:
I would agree with you on this.. And not to put too fine a point on it but what about all those "purist" preamps and integrateds that lack a balance control AND fail to attenuate both channels equally and it's clearly audible and unfixable at quiet listening levels?? My Peachtree Nova would go completely silent on the left channel while still a bit too loud for 4am listening on the right channel. It had a nice feel and pretty to look at but that was a bad fail, imho. They tried to fix it but only improved it slightly.
So what specifically would you recommend to a beginner that would work right regarding your comment?
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Well if a person were to ask me what kind of AVR to get I would not say Onkyo or Yamaha and not identify one out of the dozens out there. Not very specific there for the poor beginner and I must say the reasons for those selections, whatever they were, are somewhat nebulous. Specific models and why for instance would contribute SO much more than vague generalities.
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No you don't. They are most certainly out of spec. Even when new would not have measured as good as those Sonicaps.