Thanks again for the info. You are being very helpful. It was a very tough decision for me to put these up for sale. I am currently working a couple of electronic deals. If they go through the way I hope, Then the Shinalls will remain with me. Again thanks for your imput. I really enjoy this site. I have a pair of cornwalls that I am doing some cosmetic changes on. I am having the work done at a professional cabinet shop and then to the body shop for painting. I will post photos when they are finished. Though I have many other plans that have nothing to do with audio, I just cant get the audio monkey off my back.