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On 8/8/2017 at 2:02 PM, CECAA850 said:
This^^^^^^^^
The knuckleheads bumping on your street have boxes tuned for SPL not sound quality. Once you have your sub dialed in, you shouldn't even know it's there, It'll sound like your mains have a better bottom end than they really should have. The last house you went to did NOT have their sub calibrated or integrated properly. You can't just buy a sub, plug it in and expect it to sound right although a lot of people do just that. Placement, phase and gain all need to be addressed when you're setting it up.
So buy the ported, plug it in, come back to these forums for assistance with calibration/integration?!
I'm looking at the SVS SP1000.
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On 8/8/2017 at 7:07 PM, RoboKlipsch said:
Ported has only one downside which is that it is a larger box. If you read through say 30pages of svs's own forums eventually that would be the conclusion. properly integrated the pb is more capable. google the tests from Audioholics theres a big bump in performance ported.
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3 hours ago, CECAA850 said:
A ported sub will give you more output especially around the frequency the box is tuned to.
Maybe I have a misconception of ported subs.
When that guy/gal driving down the street thumping and bumping, but you can't understand any of the music coming out... Is that ported?
Again, apologies for my laughable ignorance of subwoofers!
I want bass guitar, not lowrider bass.
Does that make any sense at all?EDIT:
Perhaps my experiences with those who have subs really just turned me off to them by not setting them up properly?The last house I went to that had a sub sounded awful.
He had a ported sub, not sure on model or brand, but you couldn't understand anything in the movie. All the voices were muffled by the sub and the scenes where you expected it do shine through it just sounded like a monotone deep tone throughout.
I asked him to turn off the sub and got looks around the room like I was crazy...
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Ok, new thread...
You've all convinced me I should get a sub.
You've also convinced me I do not have entry level gear and I should work on refining my current setup once the sub is hooked up...I think I've narrowed down to either the SVS SB1000 or PB1000.
I love that they offer 45-day trials on their equipment - true testament to quality? I also realize that offering such a service means you are paying for it somewhere...For those who do not need to trial the sub, they may think these subs are overpriced.
I will likely buy one in the coming month or two. I know I can just pick one and if it doesn't work out I can return it and get the other one. But which should I try first?
Ideally I will be happy with the first purchase and not have to return it. That will keep the buyer and seller the happiest!So, here's my breakdown:
RB-35s as mains
RC-62 center
RS-52 surrounds
The room is 19x15' with 12' vaulted gable ceilings.
There is a 6' opening to the room by the kitchen and the TV sits adjacent to this wall (so on the 13' side).
I'd say 50% is video games, 25% movies/shows, 25% music.
If I'm missing some info to help the decision let me know.
So, ported or sealed?
I know there are personal preferences and I should test them out myself. And I plant to.But should one first over the other?
It's like test driving a car... Do you hop right into the Turbo model or do you drive the eco first?
I'm leaning towards the sealed sub based on reviews saying it's "punchier" and "cleaner".
I don't want to piss off the neighbors, we just bought the house! haha.
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On 8/3/2017 at 1:35 PM, derrickdj1 said:
CECAA850 gave very some excellent advice. The Polk sub is OK but, look for a used SVS/ PSA 12 inch subs .
The R-12SW is on sale right now through Klipsch for $359.
Would that pair well with my current equipment?
75% movies/gaming25% music
The room is 15' x 19' with 12' vaulted gable ceiling.
Large 6' doorway entering room.or should I consider a sealed instead of the ported for my room based on its size?
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On 8/3/2017 at 8:46 AM, willland said:
Where is your location, again(I forgot)?
Bill
Eastern shore Maryland
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4 minutes ago, Youthman said:
There will always be folks with bigger/better systems.
Here is what I consider an Entry Level System. $250 for a complete 5.1 system!
I agree...a sub is an absolute MUST for Home Theater. Even if you have to start out with a mediocre sub for awhile, that is still better than no sub. Lots of good deals on Craigslist for cheap if you are ok with owning 10yr old subs (pretty much all I've ever owned). A Velodyne F1500 can be had for $150. Velodyne HGS15 around $250.
As long as it's quality equipment and has been cared for I don't mind if it's vintage.
My center and surrounds were both scored off craigslist, both were in great condition!I really don't know where to start with subs though... So unless a Klipsch sub comes up on CL, and even then I'm not sure which models to avoid, I really don't know what I'm looking at...
I did see a Martin Logan Dynamo 500 near me for $300, or a Velodyne CT-12 for $150.
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1 hour ago, teaman said:
AD, you would definitely benefit from a sub in your system.
Keep an eye on the Frys.com daily deals. They regularly run the R-12SW twelve inch powered sub for $197 and it ships free. It was on sale earlier this week. For under $200 that sub would be hard to beat.
Congrats on your system!
Tim
Thanks for the suggestion!
I already follow B&H daily deals for my photography gear lol.
One more for the morning routine!-
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1 hour ago, jimjimbo said:
You could always trade a bushel of blue crabs for a loaner sub......or just have a big ole' crab eatin' party!!
I do know a guy who owns a crab shack...
Any takers?!
I'll supply the crabs and the beer, someone just needs to supply the sub!
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1 hour ago, willland said:
I say, if possible, save up your $$$ and get something decent when you can afford it.
Where is your location? Maybe someone near can let you borrow an unused sub just to demo.
Bill
Eastern Shore of Maryland.
That would be incredible if possible... I always look at the garage forum but I don't see many ads in my area.
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Sub Suggestions anyone?
I'm very tight on budget now... (read less than $200)
I see good reviews on a Polk PSW10 on Amazon for $89.
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3 minutes ago, Youthman said:
Awesome on the RS52's!
Bro you are way beyond an entry level setup
Thanks!
Really? haha I just figured compared to the rest of the crew here...Soo do I need a sub?
That's a loaded question, right
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Just now, willland said:
Great score.
IMO, quite a bit more than "entry level"
First you must convince your bride that she "needs" a new designer purse or pair of designer shoes.
Bill
hahaha thanks!
Fortunately my wife and I are pretty much minimalists... No designer bags or shoes; but maybe a high-end sushi dinner?!But when it comes to audio, I want quality.
I got the RB-35s on my 13th birthday in 2003... They are still going strong and are still my main front speakers nearly 14 years later!
I just don't know anything about subs... Which is why I started a new thread to hopefully get some education on the subject! lol
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As the title reads: I know nothing about subs...
My current setup as of yesterday -
Fronts: RB-35Center: RC-62
Surrounds: RS-52
Now, the hardest part is going to be convincing my wife that we NEED a sub... Whether this is true or not, she will not likely be receptive to spending another $300+ after I just picked up these RS-52 surrounds for $220 this week...
So.
Who is willing to educate me?Here is what I want to know:
- Will a sub really make a difference? (my guess is yes, it will)
- I can probably get away with buying a Polk PSW10 on Amazon (under $100), but is it really worth it? Better than nothing at all?
- Ideally, what's the sub to help round-out my system? (I'm assuming RSW10 or RSW15 would be the suggestions?)
- Assuming my budget cannot allow the two subs mentioned above ^, what's the "next best thing" - doesn't have to be Klipsch, but preferrably...
More questions about subs in general:
What's the typical lifespan of a sub for HT? I'm guessing most people just leave them on 24/7?
Or is this something you turn on only when playing certain movies, games, albums,etc.?
Do you leave the sub on when watching the news?
I am happy with my current setup. I'm waiting to pick up the RS-52s this weekend so I'll get them mounted and see how that changes the sound in my room.
I'm at a 5.0 setup. Moving forward I think a 5.1 would make sense. I just need to "feel" the difference, and have a little help here with justifying the purchase!
Cheers all!
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So I picked up the RS-52 pair for $220.
My brother lives literally one block over from where the guy was selling so he saved me a 6 hour drive as well!I'm on my way to an entry-level HT...
Now I have a 5.0 setup.
If only I can convince my wife that we NEED a sub! -
There is also an app for mobile called Discogs.
It's an amazing tool for cataloging your current collection and there is a marketplace where members can sell used vinyl.
I picked up a near mint condition of The Wall - Pink Floyd for $11.I like the feature to catalog your collection. There are so many times I walk into an antique shop and find a few albums I'm interested in; I type in the number and realize I already own it!
This app has saved me from a few duplicate purchases already this summer...
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My current setup:
RB-35s are my main speakers.
RC-62 as my centerBose 701 series 1 as my rear surrounds (Looking to replace these...)
The Bose were passed down to me by my Dad, and we both agree that they do not nearly compare with even the RB-35s...
I see a pair of RS52 on CL near me.
They are listed at $250 for the pair - is this reasonable? Or should I consider something else for surrounds?I want something fairly compact that can be wall mounted.
Open to all suggestions!
Budget $300 - assuming I can sell the Bose for $150+
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why can't I ever find these speakers near me...
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20 minutes ago, jimjimbo said:
I would borrow a sub from a friend or neighbor before you spend anything. If you can find a medium size unit to demo to your wife, and demo the unit at a moderate gain level, I think you will be doing well.....Putting out $99 for a "trial" is probably not the best use of your funds, IMO.
Hmmm that's gonna be tough.
I don't know anyone with a sub, not to mention a sound system in general!
Seems everyone just has little bluetooth soundbars these days, and they get by..I know the addition of a sub will really take our room to the next level.
Are you suggesting the $99 Polk 10" is just not enough power?
It has good reviews, but I don't want to waste money...
I just think I could get by with the purchase. If I went out and bought an R-112sw... I'd have some splain'n to do! -
so an update...
I couldn't make the trip to test out the Chorus II's this past weekend - But, I was able to pick up an RC62 from craigslist for $80!
It's in pristine condition... Looks like it was never used.I was skeptical since I couldn't test it, I just met the guy in a parking lot (btw, always pick a spot across from a police station - You can weed out the undesirables that way. It works.)
I got home, plugged it in. Sounds amazing!
I just need my new AVR remote to come in so I can calibrate this thing now with my RB-35s.
I have it set to Stereo EXT. since I can barely adjust anything without the remote...
So now I have a 3.0 channel system. It's already sounding amazingly better for movies and tv shows.
When I listen to music I change it back to Stereo and the center cuts out.
I'm thinking my next purchase will be a sub. But my wife really isn't sold on the idea... Some reason she thinks a sub will be obnoxious to the neighbors and it carries some stereotype with them? idk...Maybe something small like this will be a good start for her to hear the difference?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002KVQBA/ref=s9_top_hd_bw_bitM_g23_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-3&pf_rd_r=3WTVWFK46P2VBC9BWDDP&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=6fc71d99-5362-526e-b48e-9a05897aee91&pf_rd_i=172568 -
If you had a patient who could benefit from marijuana and you had the authority to legally prescribe a card for them... Why wouldn't you?!
There are doctors in Maryland that are afraid to prescribe cards to their patients on the sole reason that they'll receive a "bad rep" from their communities for doing so.WTF?!
They think they'll be viewed as "The Pot Doctor" and become discredited in their field.
I think there is a serious problem going on here.
People are ignorant to the facts and have this preconceived notion of the effects of marijuana, when they have not ever used it themselves or done the necessary research to make the decision rationally.
I don't personally need a card, and I'm thankful that I am healthy to that end.
I'm not saying they should be prescribing cards to anyone who has neck pain and just wants to get high... That person can take the risks acquiring it like everyone else until recreational use is legalized. -
Updated post!
I found a pair on Craigslist for $550. I'm trying to talk the guy down to $450, but he's not responding...If anyone in or around Maryland has a pair of Reference Mains they're willing to trade or sell, PM me!
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28 minutes ago, Marvel said:
That's the answer! Very cool, and the Reference models really look nice.
Of course, we want pics when you get everything set up.
Bruce
Certainly!
I'm going to try and put the bar at the entrance when you walk into the room to create a pseudo corner for the left tower.
Not sure if it will be tall enough, but it might help a little?
I really just gotta go pick these things up and plug them in! Speculation is only that; the true testament is through our hears! -
45 minutes ago, Marvel said:
What are the actual dimensions of the room, the area for the tv end of the room? I had LaScalas in an 11x20 room and they were fine. Now, mine were turned and on the short wall, but in our previous house I had approx. the same size room and had them in pretty much the same setup you would have. They worked fine, and a Chorus setup would have been better. The Chorus would be rockin', but the Reference would probably be more agreeable to your wife (and still sound good).
I can't say for certain the actual size of the TV portion on that room...
We had new carpets put in and he said the entire room was 266 sqft. - I am approx. 14' x 19'.
Minus the entrance which is about 5'. So if we take that back 14' and subtract 70sqft...
The TV portion of the room is probably close to 14'x14', or 196 sqft.
I think my wife wants to keep everything uniform and she really likes the look of the copper on black.I'm picking up an RC62 on Saturday and will "hopefully" be looking at the RF62iis as well if the guy responds...
I think we'll be happy with these if all works out!
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Do SVS subs ever go on sale?
in Subwoofers
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I'm not expecting any specific answers here, just a general inquiry if members here are aware of SVS sales, such as BlackFriday/Holiday sales...?
I'm looking to buy the PB-1000, I realize for some people here $500 is pocket change and they'd say, "Just buy the thing already!".
But for me, that's a considerable purchase and if I could wait a few months and save $100 or so it's something to think about.
I figure it's a company that kinda sticks to it's prices?
I know there is an outlet section, but the PB-1000 rarely is for sale in there, which is a good sign in my opinion.
So, is anyone aware of SVS sales on their own site?
I say that because I know they will go up on sale in B&M stores near me, but that voids the Bill of Rights that SVS provides.
I want that 45-day trial, and the 1 year trade in offer, and the 5 year warranty.
SVS reps tell me none of that applies (perhaps the 5 year warranty is still valid) if I purchase from a retailer. They set their own policies and don't have to adhere to anything SVS suggests.
Thanks all!