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    Jubilee 53 at work

    in 2-Channel Home Audio

    Posted · Edited by Scotty H

    As mikebse2a3 pointed out, resistance and impedance are not the same thing, although they use the same value (ohms).  Checking the resistance with an ohmmeter will tell you whether you have continuity (no broken wires or connections, for example), but does not show you the impedance of the speaker.

     

    The impedance shows what the amplifier is seeing while the speaker is operating in its cabinet or driving its horn.  It varies greatly with frequency, so the single impedance number (4 ohm, 8 ohm, whatever) assigned to a speaker is a nominal value, really more of a judgement call than an absolute value.

     

    Yes....my test shows approx. 2/3 of what true value is.

     

    Close enough to show what ohm output I should be using on my amps.

     

    3.2-3.3 = 4ohm speaker.

     

    The tops....measure 12...which calls for 16ohm output. Done!

     

    Next topic? lol

     

    Requires too much equipment to accurately measure the ohm, but what I did was absolutely good enough to tell me what output to be using.

    Jubilee 53 at work

    in 2-Channel Home Audio

    Posted

    Spoke with Chris....that works with you.

     

    Was he not there when Paul was designing the Jubilees?

     

    Tried 500, and 425 crossover points yesterday.

     

    ?? Nobody could tell any difference in a blind taste-test.

     

    Maybe you see it on paper? My ears did not tell any difference at all.

     

    Thanks for the reply Roy.

    MCM 1900 4way (Control&Dialing in)

    in Klipsch Pro Audio

    Posted · Edited by Scotty H

    agree to disagree?  :)

     

    Glad you enjoy your system! Rock on and be happy!

     

    I personally find more control over the sound with modern technology and 3 or 4 way with multiple amps....?

     

    It's fun! You may like a more minimalistic approach for whatever reason?

     

    I do enjoy my stereo like I am at a live concert......of which none of them use 2-way that I have ever see.

     

    ??

     

    You can pretend you are getting that same live concert sound with a 2 way if you want?

     

    Talking'bout colors and smells and feelings and what other weird adjectives you use to describe your sound? :P

    Bogus 4th Dimensional, off-axis pattern shifting modulations and what not? Speakers shooting Glowing rainbows that converge right in your brain out of a 2-way.....lol

    3 and 4-way eminate pure evil only and just plain'ole stink up the room with darkness and despair no matter what you are listening to. I know, right!?

     

    BTW....I use multiple subs.....same as live concerts as well! Now we have even more speakers! LOL

     

    Never seen a live concert with 2-way that kicked-455.....Maybe it's out there? I've just never heard of One?

     

    Name me One decent band that uses this set-up.......yeah.....because there are none.

     

    They spend extra for a better sound. That's why.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I guess I did Once see a Hobo in New York Subway with a 2-way PA system with a harmonica and a guitar.

    He was pretty cool, I'd admit.

    MCM 1900 4way (Control&Dialing in)

    in Klipsch Pro Audio

    Posted · Edited by Scotty H

    I run multiple amps....I want them to receive only what each needs to reproduce for that particular speaker.

     

    I try to avoid passive crossovers after the amp. Waste of power IMO.

     

    I divide, adjust, and filter the signals/channels with my DBX box before the amps.

     

    1000 other ways to look at it?

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    Whats happening with Youtube Embedding?

    in Klipsch Website & Forum Info

    Posted · Edited by Scotty H

    pffft. Pain in the a55 method to post youtube video.

     

    Welcome to 2002 internet....

     

    xenforo forums! The best and most secure for 2015 forums.

     

    ??  This set-up is....ah.....well....not very user-friendly.

     

    Can't even post the script to use for other to copy....

     

    trying.

     

    Only screen-shot and then copy that does not work.

     

    ??

    JubScala?

    in Technical/Restorations

    Posted

    It's been mentioned that a JubScala might be a stepping-stone to a Jubilee. From my point of view, the Jubilees are a bit costly, even if they are a great value. As well, they're just plain BIG! It's wouldn't be so bad if they're in the end of a room, but in my place you have to walk past the right speaker to get into the room, so the size (particularly width) would be undeniable.

    However, the JubScala could be a way to go. Here's my question: does the 402 horn/K69 combo work equally well in a vertical orientation?

    Turned on its side, a 402 would be roughly the width of a La Scala, so it would look more attractive than having it set up horizontally. If it did sound just as good, I could look into getting a set of La Scala bass bins, or just use my present Scalas and disconnect the HF section.

    The horn could be tilted down a little to compensate for the extra height.

    Any ideas or opinions?

     

    La Scala is 1" DEEPER than the Jubilee you do realize, right?

     

    Jubilee is around 24" deep.....La Scala 25.5" or so.

     

    Just saying....

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    MCM 1900 4way (Control&Dialing in)

    in Klipsch Pro Audio

    Posted · Edited by Scotty H

    I use this....but only 3-way outputs.  http://www.ebay.com/itm/dbx-DRIVERACK-PA2-DriveRack-PA2-Loudspeaker-Management-System-/331543323613?hash=item4d3185a3dd

     

    Plugs into your network and you can control from anywhere in your house/business using tablet, laptop, or PC.

     

    I think the One you posted does not use a network, but only usb directly into a PC.

     

    You end up too close to your speakers while adjusting.

     

    Need network imo.

     

    You'd still need a passive crossover for something?

     

    Or another solution for your Bass section and use the 3-way for you top stuff...?

     

    I really love mine. Can set delays, and auto-eq feature to help get you started....

     

    I use condenser mic and run around my listening area to many zones as the software prompts me to....then it does it's algorithms and produces a suggested eq balance for me.

     

    You can then tweek it from there.

     

    ??

     

    Save many settings to match your source or music tracks...Would be lost without something like this I think?

     

    Amps get only what they need to use. No post-amp filtering needed.

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    Jubilee 53 at work

    in 2-Channel Home Audio

    Posted

    I'll be corrected if I'm wrong but, I think you are measuring the electrical resistance but, they are horn loaded and the horn adds more impedance to them acoustically

     

    (or something like that)

     

    I get lost in those conversations. 

     

     

    I dunno, but my amp only cares about the electrical resistance to be happy.....

     

     

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    Jubilee 53 at work

    in 2-Channel Home Audio

    Posted · Edited by Scotty H

    So, hooking up a multimeter and checking ohm should mean something? Correct?

     

    If not, then how would I determine what ohm my speakers are?

     

     

     

    Pretty sure this is a decent test.

    One woofer does measure close enough to 8ohm to fall into that category. (6.2-6.4)

    Both in parallel measure close enough to 4ohm. (3.3-3.4)

     

    ??

    I would call this speaker a 4ohm myself and not 8ohm.

     

     

    The top section measures over 12ohm.....so I would consider that to be a 16ohm speaker.

     

    pretty wild eh?

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