mopardave

I bought a Mapletree pre amp 24 years ago and its still in use today with the same tubes it came with. They are not talked about much, but make a nice pre amp. Couple years ago i bought their phono pre amp. Its just as nice as the first one.

Try the cv181 Horizon. I think you might like them and for the unbelievable low price they are worth trying.

I hope so. Claude modeled the cabinet with his software, and picked the best matching Celestion woofers. I have a universal crossover from Al i am modifying with help from THD+N. Should be pretty cool.

Agree with much of what was said here. Very well put.

I have a Klipsch like speaker i am building. Similar to the KLF-30, but with a larger cabinet and twin 15's/per cabinet. Will be using Celesion 15's, PRV2200 mid with the 18x10 horn and DE10 with the Mahl horns. I have all the components and the lumber, just need to find time to get a good start. THD+N is helping with the crossover. I built a pair of vertical Cornwalls 20+ years ago, now CornScala and they sound fantastic with B&C drivers.

I used to come here for the mods section as i am a Klipsch owner and hobbiest, but once they frowned on making/talking about mods on Klipsch speakers most of us moved to AudioKarma. I only drop in here now to read the classified or tube section. I felt kinda pushed out so i left. I think they just wanted us to talk about how good their over priced speakers sound. Pertaining to my earlier post, I just read where Stellantis Chrysler is going to cut prices by 35% on old inventory. Maybe Klipsch should follow along here. If Barra doesnt get off the EV train(100% EV by2035) and Ford off raising prices into 2025, they will be left behind. Many including myself cant afford the new pricing on new vehicles. They are just simply gouging.

Yes, they do seem to be well built. You cant post stuff like that on AudioKarma. You will get a beating for buying Chinese amps, but at the same time they talk highly of amps like Primeluna, Line Magnetic, which are Chinese amps as well. I currently own the Willsenton R300 and i love it. I barrowed a friends Cary Insperation and rolled many different tubes thru it including 6L6 kt88, kt120, kt150 and a few others all while ABABABA ing the r300 to the Cary. The Willsenton 300B amp was better to my ear until i got to the kt150 tube. The Cary with the kt150 was the clear winner, but the Willsenton beat out all the other tubes that were run thru the Cary. I do use GL 300B and nos pre and rec tubes in the Willsenton. I have performed some mods on this amp including MuDorf caps and Hasimoto output transformers. The output transformers made no difference to my ear. Willsentons are mostly point to point.

think i might do just that. thanks

Lets hope. Wish things were the way they used to be so many years ago, but they're not and we have to keep going forward with whatever makes us happy in our own way. There is always more than one way to skin a cat, right?

Thats awesome and glad you had the tight family business experience. Not all do.

I used to dream of having new Khorns, but it was only a dream. I would love to buy a Klipsch product, but way out there now for me.

That alone is north of $300,000/yr. Electricity, liability insurance, taxes, materials etc. A lot of money for sure.

Not all.

How many people on here are buying $26,000-$36,000 Klipsch speakers? Most are only dreaming about it and thats all it will ever be at this point. Those speakers are catered to the rich, but the rich are buying $50,000 speakers. So where does that leave Klipsch with Heritage? With the middle class, but the middle class cant afford to buy them in numbers. So now what? I'm not sitting still and just dreaming about. I am building my own with the quality wood and components. I will never take a loan for a pair of any speaker.

I cant and wont ever tell others what they should do, but i know i will never open a business and eat ramen for the first 5yrs or so while i reinvest everything back into the business with the earnings and without a guarantee it will survive.

Ok, so what would you say is the solution?

You are absolutely correct. The Heritage line was still within reach of most Klipsch loyalist thru those years. Not now with Cornwalls at $6600/pr, Khorns at $26,000/pr, Jubilee at $36,000/pr. Not gonna sell many speakers like that.

What i am building will simply blow away a Cornwall, let alone an RF7. I'm pretty sure Klipsch would price these out at close to $10,000.

If you need to know, i was making $15.00/hr at General Motors and i am now making $31.00/hr driving a truck.

Your absolutely correct, i am looking in from the outside, but i have looked into opening a business and learned enough to not do it. I found i can save the headache and live comfortable just punching a clock and going home. I have a friend that runs a business building $1800-$2500 racing carburetors. He makes enough to keep the doors open and have a little pocket money. Not my cup of tea, so i do have an idea what running a business can involve, although never did it for good reason. I certainly do not have Klipsch's numbers, but they made it this far with a quality product (Heritage line), that most middle class could afford. So if there supply costs and overhead is that much now to lessen the quality and charge more pushing the product so far away from the average consumer, then maybe they should close the doors, walk away. Its never good to die a slow death.

Agree, i am currently building something similar to a Klipsch product(klf30) , I will call them KLF30 plus. They will use twin Celestion 15's with the 18x10 zxpc horns with prv2200 for mids and the mahl horns with B&C tweets. I will have 1/3 or less expense in these if Klipsch were producing and selling them. They would probably ask $10,000 for a pair of these and use MDF. I am using Birch laminated 3/4 ply.

Thats because the components and horns are better, kinda like what most of us like to do as a hobby(Klipsch hobby). Use the old design Heritage and put newer components in them and save a ton over the brand new over priced stuff they now sell. I have not done the numbers, but in 1985 i paid $900 for a pair of Heresy's. What is the price now, maybe 3 times that. I dont make 3 times as much as i did in 1985 and inflation is much more today than it was then. Still think they are priced higher than they should be. Totally out of my range and im not a poor guy. I wish them the best.

Work was performed by this guy. MFA, Scott Frankland, Wavestream Kinetics would like to do the work myself.

Anyone here own or modified the Willsenton r800i 845 amp. Really curious to the mods needed. I see some others adding resistors and switching caps on the other forums. Got some pics, but not much info on resistor or cap values and the owners are no help.

I truly am sorry to see what has happened to them. Hoping the new company is good for them.