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52 minutes ago, Speed said:
My bad. The anticipation will just make it that much sweeter... Maybe we should tell the factory guys, not to rush. To take their time, and do a great job.
It's ok, just hope Im first.
Im for taking time, but keep in mind I ordered in the beginning of January and notified them I will be available for delivery Feb 20. So they could have started and held on to them, if finished early. However, we are now middle of March and they haven't even been started..... Next week is the "planned" start date. If they finish them within the week and then figure delivery, that puts me at almost 4 months wait.
This is why my patience is about up. At this point, while there may be incoming orders, they should have made the decision to just get mine done and shipped then combine the bulk order that came in this month. While this may be convenient for them and save costs, it is at the risk of upsetting a long time customer.
29 minutes ago, Chris A said:I'd call it a recent resurgence in Jubilee sales that's the root of the issue.
I'm guessing the recent threads and wealth of knowledge that has been continually shared from existing owners.
Im hopeful this becomes a continued trend and that Klipsch irons out its building process.
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Just now, dtel said:
That's funny, it's worth the wait.
I keep hearing this, while I did push back my build, by a few weeks, this isn't the first time klipsch has informed my dealer of another week delay for my build. I'm normally a fairly patient person, but if I hear they will be pushed back again, my buying experience along with my patience is deteriorating.
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2 hours ago, Speed said:
Mr. Chris,
I ordered my Jubilee's last week, and my receiver ( which will be my pre-amp ) and two power amps all have only RCA connections. Whichever active crossover I buy, will only have XLR connections. I will have to buy many RCA to XLR, and XLR to RCA connection cables. Do you think it would be better to just buy a couple Crown D-75A amps, or stick with what I have and hope for no noise issues ? All opinions and experiences are welcome, and appreciated.Thanks...
So your the $"""***!!!<€~£ that pushed my jubilee build back another week. I got word they are building several all at once with the incoming orders. So mine got delayed again............
but congrats, will be happy to have more around.
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3 hours ago, USNRET said:
Shudda just came and picked them up next month!
That's a bit of a drive, but some day I'd love to come. It's on the list.
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3 hours ago, HPower said:
From this point on... RSVRMAN will be known as, "The Stalker"
Be patient, it will be worth the wait.
Haha I hope that nickname doesn't stick! My poor mailman. Every time he delivers, he sees me at the window like.....
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On 3/7/2017 at 2:38 PM, Khornukopia said:
RSVRMAN, Have you returned from your overseas trip and are back home listening to your new Jubilees ?
I have returned. However still waiting shipment. I had my dealer delay them a few weeks just to ensure they wouldn't arrive when I was gone, but they also got busy during that time so a bit more of a delay. Since mine will have a veneer option they have to build them, as the black bass bins may be in stock. I'm glad to hear they are busy and I'm fine with the wait as they will be done right.
But.... I'm starting to stalk every big box truck that goes down the road. Just hope for a hassle free carful delivery.
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12 hours ago, dtr20 said:
So the emotiva fell through, there is a hardware issue and it's not under warranty. Someone recommended this music hall DAC as well.
https://www.amazon.com/Music-Hall-DAC15-2/dp/B0063FN8Z0
Any thoughts?
Reviews say a lot and when they are that low I'd run. To me the most important thing is company support. Usually reliable equipment goes hand and hand with this. It may cost more, but nothing is worse than coming home after a hard day of work, putting some tunes on and a puff of smoke comes from one of your components.
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Another vote for schitt I have their modi 2, magni 2 and gungnir. I couldn't be happier and cycled through a fair share of amazon Chinese DACs.
On headfi they are highly regarded. If nothing else has changed they are 5 year warranty and USA made.
If you read a bit on the owners of the company, there is quite an interesting story of how they came to be and how they do business.
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23 hours ago, CECAA850 said:
This is the 29 cu ft monolith.
Assuming this is a lilwrecker? Do you have more pictures of it? Would like to see how you did the bracing near the driver.
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4 hours ago, Chris A said:
According to my information, the K-69-A is no longer being offered--only what is now called the K-691.
Chris is correct. Info relayed to me when I ordered mine. K-691 is now the shipped driver.
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16 hours ago, jason str said:
Have you seen these. >link<
Yes, though since I have a rack and like to do all adjustments there I really would prefer to not use a plate amp.
14 hours ago, Zim. said:I'm currently running a pair of Crown K2 for the LF in my HT. No problem with sub 20hz content as their high pass filters are set at 8hz. Far below what my lilwreckers are filtered at. The K2 is an excellent amp but don't be afraid of a fanned model. Fan noise can be easily addressed. The qsc plx amps I'm powering my mains with run at a very low noise floor (below what my oppo 103 and 105 produce) after a fan replacement ($7 and 10min.).
Give me your K2! Its old and you really don't need it anymore
Good to know of the fans.
12 hours ago, derrickdj1 said:Just because an amp is rated 20 Hz to 20 kHz that does not mean it can't power frequencies below that lower limit. It most likely has some built in protection. In general, any filter being use is not a brick wall. I use the I Nukes and get decent output down to 15 Hz and others report good output down to 10 Hz.
It is fairly simple in the I Nukes to reset the 20 Hz hpf to 15 Hz with the DSP. One thing I would not do is buy an amp for sub duty without any additional DSP. Of course a Mini DSP can be purchase but, this just an extra expensive and device in the audio chain.
The graph below shows and I Nuke amp using a Butterworth 3rd order slope at 15 Hz on my subs. The tapering off starting around 20 Hz is ideal for a vented system tuned to 15 Hz. You need the taper to protect the driver at 15 Hz.
Thank you for clarifying, this is the info I was looking for. It looks like I have quite a few options. If I'm not able to find a fanless, I may lean towards the 2502 crown or something along those lines. I would probably opt for a DSP in that case, even if its not used to have an amp that can be more flexible if I choose so in the future.
11 hours ago, Zim. said:With the OP sitting on two unused channels of his dc-one this may be less of a priority...for others it is certainly cost efficient.
Correct, allows me to save on the mini dsp if I get an amp without one.
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2 hours ago, jason str said:
Some amplifiers have high pass filters, you may need to do some snooping around to find information about it for the model you are interested in.
If i recall the Dayton listed above is -3dB @18 Hz.
Thank you for clarifying. Will have to look more to see what fan-less amps are available that have those capabilities. Would prefer to keep any noise out of the line and be class D if possible. If I go down this road, I may have to cave on the fan option. Guess will see.
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Congrats! Looking foward to reading more about them!
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I plan to play with the Jubilees for awhile before I'd decide on getting a subwoofer for sure. I understand the crossover filters for each point of the system, however I dont understand what happens when you go below an amp rating. Sorry, I should have clarified my question, when using the crossover as the DSP, the Amp for the subwoofer would receive below 20hz (for subs), however the amps all above have a rating of 20hz>20khz. In this instance, what will the amp do for the subsonic material that is rated below that?
I've seen several horn builds over on AVS and many are using the inukes which have the rating above, so I'm assuming the amp will still push the lower signal? Or is there some sort of passthrough on the back or in the settings of an amp to allow it to either ignore the DSP or push all signals. Been trying to search for awhile on this, but can't seem to get an answer that makes sense in my head. Hope this makes sense for you hah! -
Since most amps are rated no lower than 20hz do they have a bypass typically on the filters? I'd plan to have the DC-one active crossover set them. Assuming this I wouldn't need a dsp. Or do you have to buy an amp that is rated lower?
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26 minutes ago, Quiet_Hollow said:
Thank you!
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Not sure where to post, so the lounge it goes. While we were out traveling my wife bought a new Karaoke (KTV) machine that will hookup to our speakers. I have literally no knowledge of how these things go together so hopefully someone can help me out.
Its a touch screen that comes with all the songs preloaded, can also download more later on. (Looks as pictured). It has HDMI out that should go to the TV and RCA/White audio out.
I have attached the configuration as I imagine it in my head. Would start with if this looks correct? In addition, since I'm using a mixer, do these things just combine all of the audio signals that are inputed aka mix? (sorry for the dumb question). I'm looking at getting a 4 Mic wireless receiver that will connect with the mixer, in combination with the two (left/right) inputs from the Karaoke machine, I believe that would make 6 inputs. Though I'm not sure what type of mixer I should get. This will only be used in a home setting, so I'm wondering if I should just get a mono mixer or a stereo mixer. Would prefer to have it rack mountable, open to suggestions.
(Mixer) {Open to suggestions this one is mono - would prefer to price $150 or below} https://www.amazon.com/RMX-6-channel-Rackmount-Microphone-controls/dp/B00009W40L/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486470780&sr=8-1&keywords=xlr+mixer+rack
Thank you in advance,
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1 minute ago, Khornukopia said:
I listen to live music a couple times a week and I think that direct radiators do a great job of sounding exactly like a live band. I also have folded horn woofers at home, so I am going to agree with everyone on this thread.
While a lot of bands use direct radiators I'm wondering if it's also a choice by their sound guy or selves to not have to lug a 300 pound cabinet around or several.
Im on mobile right now so I can't see sigs. Can you share what horns you have and pairing them with?
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2 hours ago, DrWho said:
Btw, have you seen this website?
http://www.data-bass.com/data?page=systems&col=2&type=1&sort=desc&mfr=-1
That's a direct link to sorting by CEA2010 distortion numbers over a 10-63Hz bandwidth.
Yes I have spent a lot of time there. Prices pushed me towards horn loaded. A lot of the 18s that rumble down below the 20hz range start at around $2k. The cheaper ones tend to be drivers from 6 years ago with comments of them being "boomy" which is something I'd avoid.
Im fortunate that I don't need a wide bandwidth until the bass bin takes over. Only needing that sub 20hz until 30hz ish where ever it seems best to crossover. Just happy I went active since I can easily play in this area.
The smaller footprint is always a huge plus, thankfully I'm not entirely limited on space and leaning towards the littlewrecker should be fine.
While a flat eq is what is most desired, when I get closer to a decision I'm hopeful I can hear a few of these prior to purchase or build. I'm not sure how to explain as data may not back up, which one sounds more musical. I'm currently bound to everyone's opinions in this area. Thankfully there are quite a few posts of khorn owners and what they use for subwoofers. Reading through these threads, the majority of the users are using horn loaded and very happy with their decision.
Now being objective, most people already prefer their own system more than someone else's, so they tend to always post what they have and recommend it. I'm also not sure how many of these owners experimented with box enclosures, which would be nice to read on. In addition some of these threads need the cobwebs dusted off, as driver technology has improved considerably in even the past few years. This reason alone is what led me to wanting an IB solution and when we do move another few years I can't wait to try something like that out without having neighbors nearby to complain.
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One nice benefit of having a horn load, outside of sound is I have a destructive little one. I know that if he saw a big ol 18 woofer sitting in a box it would have dents and holes before I know it. I'm sure I could fit grills, but just a thought.
Going horn, I would probably push towards having a rack amp, I'm liking the K2, since its fanless, are there any other offerings currently available that do not have fans?
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5 hours ago, derrickdj1 said:
If the OP wants to achieve meaningful output in this range, consider having multiple subwoofers and having a subwoofers of large size. This applies to all the usual subwoofer designs. For most music, there is little need for a sub to go lower than 35 Hz. Sound engineers routinely cut frequencies lower than 35-40 Hz. Rumble filters are used in music venues to cut the very low frequencies because it can be detrimental to the SQ.
At his point, it will only be one subwoofer. This is a requirement, as I just do not have room for another. Thankfully I'm somewhat flexible on size. I can say with the current music list I have, my previous SVS Ultra 13 did quite a bit of work in the 20hz spectrum.
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7 hours ago, Quiet_Hollow said:
I hear this all the time, and I firmly believe it to be an unrealistic goal. Not unobtainable, just not practical in the majority of cases.
No, I'm not a bass Luddite. I appreciate healthy performance below 60Hz as much as the next person. This isn't a special case, and you're talking about capability way out on the tail end of the bell curve.
Having spent considerable time around real world stuff that makes SPL in that freq range (the infra-bass region) I'll tell you that:
A. It's typically not musical
B. Not subtle in any way
C. The required acoustic power to approach anything resembling realistic playback levels is beyond the capability of traditional dynamic driver design.
D. The noise floor down there is ridiculous.
Many goals are unrealistic, thats the idea of making it a goal and not a requirement
I'm looking at the extension beyond what the Jubilees are capable of. I'm fully aware that most music cuts off above 30ish hz. I listed before that I do listen to music that dives deeper than that. I'm also 60% music 40% movies. Almost every action movie could benefit from having the lower spectrum I'm looking.
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Is there any other that goes lower that is the same size other than the THT or the lilwrecker?
Good to know of the fans.
Jubilee advice needed.
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I'm hoping so. The sooner they arrive the less I read on DIY. ( I have a lot of woodworking tools as well to aid in that temptation) Jubes do command a price point that go a looooong way with DIY. I've made my decision to buy Jubes from a long way back, however if I hear of another 1 week build start day I'm going to be honest and consider other options.
Its not not just me but my wife is in this and when one has to explain the funds detracted from the account, in addition to watching movies using the TV as the sound source, having to explain the further delay, funds spent does NOT make for a pleasant experience. Especially when klipsch relayed they will start the week of xx, previous week, this week, next week. And they still haven't even started.
Im trying to keep my cool, but I won't lie I REALLY wanted to jam and movie with the wife tonight. I'm told it's worth the wait, I've done the research and read A LOT, but have yet to read about anyone that waited this long and still no solid answer.