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On 7/26/2017 at 11:13 AM, Ski Bum said:
Unclefred, with the iron-clad reasoning you've presented, I'm sold! What fuses and AC cords do you recommend to me so I can hear (or listen to?) what you've been hearing (listening to?)? I'm dying to hear all that I've been missing out on, so help a brother out.
While you may need help, It's probably a type of help I'm not licensed to provide.
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1 minute ago, richieb said:
Moray talked about turning the CW into a 2 way with large format 510 horn/driver. Cabinet volume and frequency response were
not mentioned. However the Crites models do replicate CW cabinet volume.
That's why I did mention them.
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39 minutes ago, richieb said:
I think you have closely described the 396? Two way, 510 w/2 inch compression driver and 15 inch ported woofer.
I think the 396 has less cabinet volume and only goes down to 60hz +/- 3db ? I'm not sure that's correct.
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Audio forums seem to have a lot of tin eared anal retentives trying to convince people they aren't hearing what they hear. Thankfully, not so much here. Maybe it's the nagging fear that they are missing out on what the rest of us enjoy that drives them? Klipsch speakers are very resolving and starkly exhibit the changes in a system, good or bad.
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Naim gear is generally first rate. That reads like a great piece of kit.
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9 hours ago, wvu80 said:
Thanks for the info, I added that into my spreadsheet. Your sale raised the avg to $463.
Your analysis of the price difference anomaly is probably correct. I didn't know how to proper interpret it, so I just report the numbers and let folks use the numbers as a reference for research.
I completely agree with you, no matter what the "numbers" say, if there is a speaker a person wants, then it is worth whatever they are willing to pay for it.
Forte - 8 samples
Forte II - 8 samples
I bought my primo condition quartets with crites ti tweeters for $250 last month. That should bring down the average.
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I don't need them but if they were selling here, I'd buy immediately.
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Chorus II and Cornwall III are on my want list, but I'd go for a Cornwall II if I ever find a deal. I think I've never seen used Corny III.s.
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6 hours ago, IB Slammin said:
How clever...troll
If that was true, that makes you the sucker that took the bait.
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Great deal if I want to drive to San Jose.
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Try using your words.
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Florida and Texas must have more Klipsch heritage than anyone. At least on epay.
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6 hours ago, garyrc said:
Beware legs, unless you take steps to avoid a cavity under each speaker. The little trim indent under the stock Forte II won't hurt, and may be part of the design. Paul W. Klipsch warned against legs that form cavities in his cardinal rules:
5. Freedom from cavities. The space under a speaker box formed by mounting it on legs can destroy the bottom octave of response and deteriorate the next 2 octaves.
Some people on the forum have put rigid, solid wood "aprons" around the DIY riser, flush with the front, sides, and backs of their speaker, to avoid a cavity. An alternative is to put a solid block of wood under the Forte II, the same length and width as the bottom of the Forte cabinet, your desired 3" to 5" thick, and firmly attached to avoid rattles.
Here are PWK's rules. We don't see them often enough, and there are abridged versions of them floating around. I think this list is complete.
Eight Cardinal Points of Reproduction
1.Freedom from distortion. Minimum distortion requires small amplitudes of air mass movements, even at peak transient power output. Bass diaphragm motion should not exceed 1/16 inch. Corner placement reduces distortion three fourths.
2.Optimum size of speaker. Large enough to reproduce the lowest audible bass tone at peak transient power output without distortion; not so large as to produce a separation of bass and treble events. Corner placement increases effective size of speaker 4 times.
3.Freedom from rattles.
4.Freedom from shadows. Obstructions between high frequency speaker and listeners can not be tolerated - treble wave-lengths do not turn corners.
5.Freedom from cavities. The space under a speaker box formed by mounting it on legs can destroy the bottom octave of response and deteriorate the next 2 octaves.
6.Adequate spacing for stereo. In a 14 x 17 foot room, for example, the 17-foot wall is apt to be best for the stereo speaker array.
7.Accurate spatial values. Ability to localize the virtual sound sources in their original spatial relationships requires 3 widely spaced speakers, regardless of size or type, retention of this quality over a wide listening area requires toe-in of the flanking speakers.
8.Flanking speakers toed-in. Such toe-in is naturally provided by corner speakers. The effect is to reduce shift of the virtual sound source for different listener locations. This is the only way to achieve a wide area for listening.
Agreed. M experimentation with my Quartets confirm this. A solid, 4 sided stand enforces the bass responce. When lifted with a cavity, it was reduced. However, with a 'bearded' stand, where the front of the stand is flush with the speaker and extends to the floor, increases bass output by 6db or so.
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1 hour ago, cgolf70 said:
I only purchased a set of tweeter diapraghms for a pair of Quartets I found the other day but called Crites yesterday to discuss the issue of crossovers and diapraghms. I had to agree with his point about "replacing or rebuilding the crossovers is a maintenance item" just like on any other piece of equipment. After about 20 years, the capacitors, etc. dry out, lose their effectiveness, etc.
Made sense to me so I purchased the crossovers and diapragms for a pair of Fortes I found Saturday. I will "A/B" the Quartets and Fortes for fun after I've replaced everything to see just how much difference there really is or at least what difference I can hear. Nothing scientific, just for fun.
The maintenance issue is well taken. I pulled the xo from one of my quartets and it looks brand new, but stock. The metal is still shiny. I've seen pics of the same xo's on the web and the transformers and inductors look their age, tarnish, oxidation. So now I wonder if I can figure out if they are original or replaced recently? They sound great butif the caps are 25 years old, they could sound better.
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Mine with the Ti upgrade sound great. It may be a break-in issue, or just your sound preference. If you haven't, get them off the ground a bit.
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8 hours ago, JBCODD said:
Just crop dusted the guest uv honor......
That's the best explanation yet!
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I used to have the stomp box, it really did wonders with the guitar signal.
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3 hours ago, teaman said:
Only $229 apiece with the coupon code if you sign up for email alerts. Yesterday the RC-25 was $125. Crazy prices, but most Fry's won't ship these deals and I don't even have one in my state so I am SOL
I did take advantage with an RSW-12 Klipsch sub they shipped for me at $196 which again was a steal.
Nice. I have one about 45 miles from me. I better sign up.
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I see today they are $359 apiece.
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I remember my Dad had a quad setup. A mid fi brand at best, I recall it had buttons for Discrete, Matrix and another I don't remember. I do remember Edgar Winter's 'Frankenstein' swirling around the room.
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Congrats on a great deal. Like you, I was a bit apprehensive about my first pair, Quartets, but was quickly hooked in to the dynamic horns.
Klipsch RF-5 and NAD
in 2-Channel Home Audio
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Way back when I worked on an audio shop, it was surprising how many 'broken' speakers brought in simply had a loose pr disconnected wire. Congrats on your find.