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I thought about having a similar looking baffle for the ZXPC horn made. (Not going to do that myself. I have zero woodworking skills.) I wonder if there would be acoustic issues rear mounting that horn the way the K-402 is on the Jubilee or if it should be flush mounted on the front. I wonder if Klipsch would sell that salt and pepper grill cloth or if I can find it elsewhere.

Now that I have them in the room, I see why everyone was discouraging me from making a JuBelle center for this setup. It's going to look pretty silly shoehorned in there. 🙂 However, since I've purchased everything needed for it, I'll make it anyway. If I ever downsize to a house with less bedrooms (since I'll be an empty nester soon) and only have one room for movies and music, then I'll want a center for movie dialog.

I forgot to update my profile picture yesterday. Out with the Palladium and in with the Jubilee. (Both commissioned with https://www.instagram.com/p.laz.tattoo/.)

I retired in February 2020, just in time for a global pandemic to kick into high gear. Great timing. 😁

I'm retired. 😁

SPECIFICATIONS FREQUENCY RESPONSE (+1.75 dB/- 3 dB) 18Hz – 20kHz SENSITIVITY1 Avg. Sensitivity of HF - 110dB Avg. Sensitivity of LF - 107dB POWER HANDLING (CONT/PEAK) LF - 300W / 1200W HF - 100W / 400W MAXIMUM SPL 125 dB/1m (Using DSP) NOMINAL IMPEDANCE LF - 8 ohms, minimum 3.5 ohms at 160Hz HF - 16 ohms, miminum 7.6 ohms at 4.3kHz CROSSOVER FREQUENCY 340 Hz HIGH FREQUENCY DRIVER K-693 7” Titanium Diaphragm Compression Driver with 5” Voice Coil LOW FREQUENCY DRIVER Dual K-283 12” Fiber-Composite cone woofers ENCLOSURE MATERIAL MDF INPUTS 5 way binding post HEIGHT 69.5” (175.26 cm) WIDTH 50.25” (127 cm) DEPTH 30.25” (76.2 cm) WEIGHT LF - 330 lbs (149.68 kg) HF - 78 lbs (35.38 kg) FINISH Black Ash, American Walnut GRILLE Salt and Pepper Cloth

You may be right. I'll have to take another look in the daylight to be sure.

Hmmm... I have action figures... 🤓

Yes, just off to the left in the bay window area.

Took an artsy night shot.

That's an acoustic blanket covering the fireplace that I never use to approximate a smooth front wall.

Here's a shot of my pinstriped interconnects. Speaker wires are done as well. That way I can easily tell L (black), R (red), HF (green), and LF (blue).

The Jubilee are in and setup. I started a new thread: .

Thanks to the piano movers I can finally listen to these bad boys. The move in went smoothly. After assessing the situation, this is what the three men did. First thing they did was set up a metal ramp that reached from my front walk, over the front stoop and up the additional step to the door. They unboxed the bass bins in the garage. For each one, they tipped it forward onto a rubber-topped moving dolly with a furniture blanket over it to get it off the pallet and get the foam off the bottom. They stood it up to get the dolly out from under the front and then tipped it backward a bit to get the dolly underneath the bottom. They then carefully rolled it up the ramp, through the front door, and put them in place in their respective corners. They just carried in the HF sections in and set them on top of the bass bins. I didn’t get to take many pictures or videos because I was helping, moving boxes/packing out of the way, opening doors, etc. (I took two short videos of one bass bin rolling around, but they are too big to upload here.) I had wired in the DSP ahead of time. I’m glad I color coded my interconnects and speaker wires to make sure my connections were correct. So, once I hooked up the HF drivers to the binding posts and plugged in the speaker wires, we were ready to hear something. I asked the piano movers if they wanted to hear anything. The company owner said Pink Floyd. 😊 So, I grabbed my old Mobile Fidelity CD of Dark Side of the Moon. At first, we heard nothing and boy, was I worried. Turns out that I had set the DSP to Auto On but apparently that wasn’t working the way I expected. Once I manually turned it on, then we had music. I started with both DSP gain knobs at the middle (12 o’clock or 5 out of 10) position as Roy suggested. The bass was a bit much that way. I slowly increased the HF gain and settled at just less than one additional marking higher (like 5.8 out of 10). The piano movers were amazed. After listening to that for a while, the piano movers left to go to another job. I then started a re-listen of the playlist I used to evaluate the Jubilee at JubFest last October (https://music.amazon.com/user-playlists/dd125d8dc60b40389c79ee7faf583094sune?ref=dm_sh_cdb4-5933-bdcd-794b-eb995). Man, @Chief bonehead was right. These behemoths sound awesome in my smallish living room. I guess smaller rooms do need bigger horns. 😊 This isn’t the first time I’ve heard these speakers and they are as great here in my house as I remember them being in the Klipsch lab listening room at JubFest. If I had to describe the sound it a few words it would be dynamics, detail, imaging, and integration. I have never heard a speaker with greater dynamic range than these. Everything is so percussive and life-like that you feel like you could touch it. The amount of detail I’m hearing for the first time in some very familiar recordings is extraordinary. The imaging is also unbelievable. The first cut off Jazz at the Pawnshop made me feel like I was sitting in the Jazzpuben Stampen in Stockholm where the album was recorded. I could close my eyes and “see” the clinking dinner plates and people talking in the background. Finally, the integration or “oneness” on the sound is fantastic. I thought I had good integration of my P-39F with the three subs in that system, but that’s got nothing on hearing the entire frequency range coming out of two speakers. I’m overjoyed with what I’m hearing. I can’t believe this is finally a reality.

I don't think it's overkill. The ideal front stage would be three identical speakers. The only reason we have smaller horizontal center speakers is because most people don't have the space to accommodate three identical speakers up front. They are not made that way because that is the ideal design. MTM speakers (or variants of that) oriented horizontally are a compromise for space. Also, I have to disagree with the statement that "timbre matching is overrated". This will depend on your sensitivity to mismatches and how much it bothers you. I can't stand mismatches across the front stage. I find it constantly distracting when the sound changes as sound effects pans happen across the front. Also, it not just "timbre" that can be mismatched. Differences in the levels of distortion can also be distracting. For example, I could never live with a RP center with Heritage mains. In the Klipsch consumer lines of speakers, most of the 2-way speakers like Reference and RP hand off from horns to cones in the range of 1200 Hz to as high as 2500 Hz. In contrast, the consumer line 3-way speakers (that are not fully horn-loaded) like Heritage or 3-way Legend series transition from horns to cones in a range of like 500 Hz to 850 Hz. This means that the consumer 3-way and fully horn-loaded speakers (whether 3-way or 2-way like the Jubilee) will have less distortion in the critical lower and middle region of the mid-range frequencies where the bulk of the musical and vocal action is. The fully horn-loaded speakers will also have much lower distortion in their bass operating range. These differences in the distortion levels are plainly audible to me. That's why I recommended the largest Heritage speaker you could accommodate as a center. While the Cornwall, Hersey, or Forte will never have the low bass distortion levels of a La Scala or Belle, their timbre and distortion profile will be a closer match than RP. You have to figure out if you are one of those people who are bothered by mismatches or aren't. I found this out the hard way when I was buying my first center speaker to go with my Forte mains in the 90's. At first, I tried going as inexpensive as I thought I could reasonably go and purchased a KG 2.2V. This speaker was totally inadequate to match the Fortes. It sounded nothing like them and could not “keep up” due to much lower sensitivity/max output. So, I traded that in for an Academy. I did not find it to be a sonic match for the Fortes either (despite Klipsch marketing it as such). It was a much better center than the KG 2.2V but still didn’t work for me. It sounded more like a match for the original kg series, not the Forte family. From the moment I started using it, I was aware of the sound character change in the center as sounds panned across the front. It was very disconcerting and was a constant distraction. Soon after I got the Academy I went back to the dealer and made a deal to trade it in for a single Heresy II. The 3-way design was a much better match for the 3-way Fortes. I was very happy with that decision, but I lost money on each trade in to learn this lesson.

If you can't do a third La Scala or a Belle Klipsch, then get the largest one of those three that your setup will accommodate vertically.

The piano movers are coming tomorrow to move the Jubilee inside. I think I'll start a new topic for that. 🙂 That way people don't have to go eight pages in to find the next set of pictures.

Yup. Will go get them next week. Don't want them in the way during the move of the Jubilee into the house.

I wouldn't get hung up on the missing K or the V underneath. The one thing where Klipsch really cheaped out on the Palladiums was the badges. The were just metal stickers and were easily snagged and pulled up by dusting clothes, etc. It's not surprising to see individual letters or the V underneath missing. The badging looks genuine. It looks like whoever owned these removed the input cups to replace the binding post with this fused connector. No idea what the button would be for. Not sure I'd trust speakers modified this way.

I just been doing a rewatch of the James Bond films and watched Goldfinger tonight. DON'T PUSH THE RED BUTTON! 😂

Those are the ones I'm buying. 😁 Already spoke to the seller. Just waiting for the money from my financial advisor to drop in my checking account on Monday.

If I got the 325s then I'd probably be compelled to go active and replace the K-691 with Axi2050. 😁 Going fully horn-loaded with La Scala is the rabbit hole I'll probably go down for now if I do something other than the KLF-30. Of course, I may be compelled to turn those into JubScala at some point. I'm hoping at some point I'll just be happy with what I have. 🙂

I'm not sure I want to try something like that on a brand-new finish yet. However, I was thinking of trying it on the single used Belle that's on it way. In several places, the walnut lacquer finish on that has seen better days.

Thanks. I'll give the damp cloth + elbow grease + time approach a try tomorrow and see if that works.

Ah, OK. I've seen those folding plastic stools before. Since my La Scala will be more visible, I don't think I'd go for that look. Thanks though.