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Al Green records are some of the most musical I've ever heard on my STEREO! Analogman

And YES, I can dig it Analogman

---------------- On 1/17/2005 10:39:49 PM coda ♫ wrote: Throwing a little R&B into the mix, couple of tracks from a future release due out in March. Build Me Up 64K 128K Everything's OK 64K 128K Can you dig it? ---------------- Al Green = Definitive Soul + Jazz + Funk + Sex Machine + Smooth Groove + Let's Get It On + Articulate Phrase Master + Lyrical Genius + Consummate Performer = Electrifying Badass Artist (A long time ago) I still love Al, but it's so sad that time makes us ALL, OLD Still in love with you, Analogman

---------------- On 1/20/2005 8:41:15 PM stan krajewski wrote: First - As far as I am concerned - no need for apology (but then again I don't run this forum). If only we just used words against each other. Second - I admire and respect your humility - a truly rare quality these days. Third - welcome back! ---------------- Thank you for proffering such kind and benevolent words. With regards, Analogman

Done. Happy to do it! Fellow Lansing Heritage Member, Analogman

---------------- On 1/20/2005 1:22:23 PM artto wrote: ---------------- On 1/19/2005 2:55:26 PM RAPTORMAN wrote: Thanks Artto. Just to make sure about your suggestion--Smirnoff Silver plus 4 times distilled water--or straight out Smirnoff Silver. Any other suggestions??? I can always go to local TT dealer and buy the cleaning solvent they have, but they charge like 20.00/100ml. ---------------- Just Smirnoff Silver straight. 100 proof is 50% alchohol so the "water" is already in it, and has been distilled many times along with the vodka (unlike distilled water which still has many contaminants in it for our purposes). After the disk is thoroughly dry, I treat it with GruvGlide. Do not use too much of this. A light coat will do better. It needs to be buffed onto the record surface with their supplied special pads, in both directions, including the label (to get the most benefits from its anti-static effect). If done right, it puts on a non-organic coating that, essentially leaves an anit-static lubricative, one molecule thick on the record surface. It has been well documented that it improves stylus trackability, lowers distortion and record/stylus wear. I have some multiple copies of the same recordings, some are very high quality audiophile pressings, that were used for testing and treated with GruvGlide over 20 years ago. The GruvGlide discs are still very quiet, noise free and sound better than the untreated versions. I also clean the stylus tip with LAST Stylus Cleaner, and treat the stylus with LAST Stylus Treatment. LAST Stylus Treatment should be applied to the entire stylus, cantilever and grommet suspension (with the exception of Decca pickups in which case use it only on the stylus tip). ---------------- Interesting, Some I know also swear by Squalene, citing similar results as your GruvGlide. I have not yet tried either. Are you not concerned with the migration of liquid up the cantilever, (or through it, if hollow) if you dampen more than your stylus brush? Please advise. As always, Analogman

---------------- On 1/20/2005 1:29:29 AM dodger wrote: At some point we should just accept. Whether it's 2 channel, General Questions or what. He's making a statement and people are getting on his case for not being in the "Correct" area. If the majority of your posts are in 2 channel and you are noting an apology or good to be back, thank you - that's where you should be allowed to post it. It's a shame when someone posts a positive and except for Daddy Dee, it's dumped on. If we followed the General Questions, two channel "statement," most comments would have to go to general questions. The Administrators will move it if completely out of line. Welcome Back, I see no grovelling. Glad to have you back. dodger ---------------- Thank you again. With regards, Analogman

---------------- On 1/20/2005 2:00:25 AM dodger wrote: As far as I'm concerned, no thank you needed. It's nice when someone posts a positive. dodger ---------------- Thank you kindly, Analogman

---------------- On 1/20/2005 1:09:30 AM dodger wrote: ---------------- On 1/20/2005 12:18:11 AM analogman wrote: analogman Insane Poster Total Posts: 291 Last Post: 1/20/2005 Member Since: 7/25/2002 Subscribe to this author Sorry to hear your troubles. Don't forget, Japan then Taiwan helped put people like Saul out of business in the first place. Here's your chance to really level the playing field in a small way. "Sell Stateside", it's the Patriotic thing to do!! The Troll analogman Insane Poster Total Posts: 291 Last Post: 1/20/2005 Member Since: 7/25/2002 Subscribe to this author Asian built stuff inundated our (U.S.A.) market when it was decent; read copies of our designs built by near slave labor compared to America. Drove all the icons out of business or forced them to sell. Now in the age of ICs and "chip" architecture (which we were at one time the main player)the Asian manufacturers are selling the U.S. public at large cheap mid-fi, tariff free crap and doing very well. In the meantime, isn't it interesting that the best and finest collections of everything from Disney to JBL, Klipsch, Mac etc. are in Asia? If they're not willing to pay the freight, FORGET THEM! CLEAR ENOUGH? The Troll analogman Insane Poster Total Posts: 291 Last Post: 1/20/2005 Member Since: 7/25/2002 Subscribe to this author Selling "Golden Age" kit to Asian "collectors" is tantamount to robbing a church. Let them book travel and visit our technological heritage here, in a museum or at a forum member's home. You said you didn't NEED the money.? Analogman I would tender for your consideration the proposition of not buying back our goods from off shore sellers as well. Think about it. As always, Analogman ---------------- The tube gear that most of us that are older and remember were built in a time when the word "quality" truly meant more than today. McIntosh, Marantz and all were under rated and the quality was higher than now. Avery Fisher put a lot of donations to audio that still stand. The problem with not buying anything back is that we do need the quality units and their parts to keep what we have working. Selling overseas is almost a crap-shoot. I had no problem selling to Wolfram. Nor would I to Timmikid or my friend EdwinR. They are buying for use not speculation or to see actual pieces to make knock-offs. We need to stop the flow. But saying that puts one into a position of a person putting the units on eBay - getting the top dollar and not giving a rats behind about those buying for use. Not to turn it around for profit. When "Auudio" and "Stereo Review" were being published the ads in the classifieds had the same overseas people advertisng top dollar paid. Any tube gear or old speakers wanted. Now, we are seeing payback. Those who own need parts, want OEM and have to buy back. My 1900 Receiver - Museum piece but it has a singular on / off volume control. On efficient speakers, I have to move the balance almost all to one side at average listening levels. I bought a new one from McIntosh, Dr. Dave installed it, same thing. One McIntosh tech said it must be an amplifier problem. Talked with several reputable McIntosh sellers who said it's the parts McIntosh is getting - they do not track well at low volume. Either I have to find a better source - overseas - or live with it. Check out the ads for NOS parts - how many are American? So quality meant more overall, the rule not the exception. Now it's reversed. McIntosh and Marantz always exceeded specs. An MC 30 and Klipsch will give you the db or SPL desired unless you are trying for jet engine volume in a huge room. What is truly sad is tha us older that know quality as I said as the rule. Now it's do as many as you can, change models too frequently. That is part of the Heritage line: quality, few changes. Today people accept junk and ho hum return it if it breaks in warranty. It's sad. dodger ---------------- Good post! Analogman

---------------- On 1/20/2005 12:32:11 AM JBryan wrote: Analogman, "You should probably go back and re-read your sources, as these statements are obviously not based upon science or experience." You may very well be right. I'm just professing my experience and what works for me. I'm fine with my sources - thanks, but more importantly, if I read or hear something enough times I begin to give it some credibility (works like a charm for BUSH and the guys). While they aren't necessarily facts or science-based, others' opinions and advise eventually guide me to conclusions. If they provide some practical validity for me resulting in say, quieter LPs - that becomes my experience. It works for me. Whatever works for you is fine too. I'd appreciate any suggestions or advise you can offer that will help me to clean records more effectively or conveniently .....like a Swifter. Have fun, Bryan ---------------- You have fun, too, Bryan Regards, Analogman

---------------- On 1/20/2005 12:27:37 AM Allan Songer wrote: ---------------- On 1/19/2005 10:53:37 PM analogman wrote: To all members of the Klipsch Forum Family, I would like to say that I would consider it an honour if you would accept my apology for my unnecessary and uncalled for use of profanity in posts I have made in this forum in the past. I would also like to say thank you to Amy Unger for giving me generous, equitable, and possibly undeserved consideration with regards to my request to be reinstated as an active member of the forum. Thank you Amy, and all, for allowing me to continue to enjoy something that means so much to me and brings me so much pleasure. Thank you, Analogman ---------------- What the heck does this goveling have to do with 2-channel audio? Don't you think this post should be in "General?" ---------------- It is. By the way, what is "goveling"? I can't seem to find it in my Webster's. Thanks for posting, Analogman

analogman Insane Poster Total Posts: 291 Last Post: 1/20/2005 Member Since: 7/25/2002 Subscribe to this author Sorry to hear your troubles. Don't forget, Japan then Taiwan helped put people like Saul out of business in the first place. Here's your chance to really level the playing field in a small way. "Sell Stateside", it's the Patriotic thing to do!! The Troll analogman Insane Poster Total Posts: 291 Last Post: 1/20/2005 Member Since: 7/25/2002 Subscribe to this author Asian built stuff inundated our (U.S.A.) market when it was decent; read copies of our designs built by near slave labor compared to America. Drove all the icons out of business or forced them to sell. Now in the age of ICs and "chip" architecture (which we were at one time the main player)the Asian manufacturers are selling the U.S. public at large cheap mid-fi, tariff free crap and doing very well. In the meantime, isn't it interesting that the best and finest collections of everything from Disney to JBL, Klipsch, Mac etc. are in Asia? If they're not willing to pay the freight, FORGET THEM! CLEAR ENOUGH? The Troll analogman Insane Poster Total Posts: 291 Last Post: 1/20/2005 Member Since: 7/25/2002 Subscribe to this author Selling "Golden Age" kit to Asian "collectors" is tantamount to robbing a church. Let them book travel and visit our technological heritage here, in a museum or at a forum member's home. You said you didn't NEED the money.? Analogman I would tender for your consideration the proposition of not buying back our goods from off shore sellers as well. Think about it. As always, Analogman

---------------- On 1/19/2005 9:10:58 PM Gilbert wrote: analogman, let me fill you in on something you are obviously unaware of. This goes back a month or so when another scumbucket took timikid's money. During that time, hideharu, tried to offer me a phoney second chance offer on an MC240 that I bid on. And that my friend makes him a scumbucket in my book. ---------------- Now that you mention it, I did read that thread, forgot that YOU were the mark. That makes "hideharu" a hustler and a thief, not a "scumbucket". Sorry you fell for something so obvious. How did it turn out? Did you recoup? It's best to say what you mean and mean what you say, and to THINK before you do either. Sorry for your misfortune, Analogman

---------------- On 1/19/2005 9:47:23 PM JBryan wrote: Analogman, "I don't understand, isopropyl is "bad" but "lab grade isopropyl is a "fair compromise"? Please explain." Any alcohol will strip the oils from vinyl over time - isopropyl included. The "lab-grade" is more pure with fewer contaminates thus it wont leave as much residue in the grooves but it'll still harm the vinyl eventually. Still, its less damaging than grain or ethyl alcohol. Same goes for distilled water - fewer contaminates mean less stuff in the grooves to make noise. "You recommend Triton X-115 over Kodak's Photo-Flo. I invite you to elaborate with regards to X-115's superiority, or to the Kodak product's lack of suitability for this purpose." Actually, its Triton X-114 (sorry) but there are other surfactants or wetting agents out there like Monolan 2000 that'll work just as well. Kodak's Photo-flo leaves a whole mess of chemicals behind - you can actually see it on the record. Once again, purity is the concern. I read that Kodak actually warns against using PF on vinyl. "After the initial scrub/washing of dirty records with an alcohol containing solution I perform subsequent washings of "clean" records with straight distilled water. Please elaborate regarding the "lot of damage" cleaning with alcohol will induce." Distilled water (and surfactant) is used to suspend chemicals and particulates so they can be removed. Any remaining water should evaporate leaving little if anything behind. That of course, is the ideal but in practice there's always something left. (How many records have you spun that were pristinely quiet from beginning to end?) Alcohol will slowly eat away at the oils in vinyl so its always recommended to follow the wash with a water rinse to remove as much as possible. Its a matter of degrees - some folks vacuum-clean their records before every use and double rinse with de-ionized distilled water. They wouldn't dream of using anything as harsh as alcohol. Then there's fellas who can't bother themselves with cleaning beyond a quick breath and wiping the record across their shirtsleeve. As long as it works for 'em. Have fun -Bryan ---------------- Please consider answering the question(s). Do you think this makes sense? At all? Any alcohol will strip the oils from vinyl over time - isopropyl included. The "lab-grade" is more pure with fewer contaminates thus it wont leave as much residue in the grooves but it'll still harm the vinyl eventually. Still, its less damaging than grain or ethyl alcohol. Same goes for distilled water - fewer contaminates mean less stuff in the grooves to make noise. You should probably go back and re-read your sources, as these statements are obviously not based upon science or experience. As always, Analogman

To all members of the Klipsch Forum Family, I would like to say that I would consider it an honour if you would accept my apology for my unnecessary and uncalled for use of profanity in posts I have made in this forum in the past. I would also like to say thank you to Amy Unger for giving me generous, equitable, and possibly undeserved consideration with regards to my request to be reinstated as an active member of the forum. Thank you Amy, and all, for allowing me to continue to enjoy something that means so much to me and brings me so much pleasure. Thank you, Analogman

To all members of the Klipsch Forum Family, I would like to say that I would consider it an honour if you would accept my apology for my unnecessary and uncalled for use of profanity in posts I have made in this forum in the past. I would also like to say thank you to Amy Unger for giving me generous, equitable, and possibly undeserved consideration with regards to my request to be reinstated as an active member of the forum. Thank you Amy, and all, for allowing me to continue to enjoy something that means so much to me and brings me so much pleasure. Thank you, Analogman

---------------- On 1/19/2005 9:38:56 PM garymd wrote: We listen to jazz on our 2-channel systems. Nobody ever seems to complain. UNTIL NOW! Analogman comes back to stir up trouble and Paul's right behind him. You really don't need to encourage him Paul. I realize you guys have bonded but it just isn't necessary. Most of the folks we discuss audio related topics with hang out in the 2-channel forum as YOU well know. Once again, if you don't like the topic, don't read it. ---------------- Change is good. I resent the accusation that I am attempting to "stir up trouble" and am wounded by it. I have apologized to the powers that be regarding my childish behavior in the past, and I meant it. I am simply trying to illuminate an aspect of forum protocol and structure you may have understandably overlooked while engaged in your passionate quest for Jazz Nirvana. Sincerely, Analogman

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---------------- On 1/18/2005 11:04:47 PM Gilbert wrote: Yea...even that scumbucket hideharu got out bid on that puppy. Hideharu, now that's a guy with deep pockets. That dog gone son of gun out bid the heck out of me on too many mac gear pieces. Amy, did you see that. I'd never cussed. How's that for behav'in. Huh! ---------------- I don't think calling a fellow audiophile who happens to be more "flush" than oneself a "scumbucket" promotes goodwill or an atmosphere of mutual respect and open exchange. Yours truly, Analogman

---------------- On 1/19/2005 8:09:53 PM paulieparrot wrote: I'd be concerned about scratching the record. ---------------- Makes sense to me, Parrot! How've you been? Your "sock puppet", Analogman

Hello again, Isn't a statically charged, household dust rag a bit like sandpaper once it's contaminated from the first wipe? Eager to learn, Analogman

---------------- On 1/19/2005 6:23:19 PM JBryan wrote: Rubbing Alcohol is bad... it strips vinyl of oils and will do a lot of damage over time. Many folks don't like to use any alcohol but a very pure "lab-grade" isopropyl is a fair compromise. You can get it from chemical, medical or laboratory supply companies. While you're at it, get some ultra-purified de-ionized distilled water (also "lab-grade" - a much cleaner alternative to the stuff you get at the grocery store. The Disc Doctors Miracle Wash doesn't use alcohol and it does a respectable job but its pretty expensive compared to homebrew. A pretty good recipe is 75% distilled water, 25% isopropyl alcohol and a drop or two of Triton X-115 from Rohm-Haas or a similar surfactant - NOT Kodak's Photo-flo! Vodka contains ethyl alcohol which is worse on vinyl than isopropyl but lots of folks like it because of its purity. There's always a trade-off. Have fun -Bryan ---------------- I don't understand, isopropyl is "bad" but "lab grade isopropyl is a "fair compromise"? Please explain. You recommend Triton X-115 over Kodak's Photo-Flo. I invite you to elaborate with regards to X-115's superiority, or to the Kodak product's lack of suitability for this purpose. After the initial scrub/washing of dirty records with an alcohol containing solution I perform subsequent washings of "clean" records with straight distilled water. Please elaborate regarding the "lot of damage" cleaning with alcohol will induce. An inquiring mind, Analogman

NEVER wipe an LP with anything DRY except a carbon fiber brush or your stylus. The sleeves they reside in are obviously unavoidable. As always, Analogman

---------------- On 12/5/2004 1:37:16 AM DeanG wrote: Laughing and crying. Great info -- thanks. Even better that I understood what I was reading! ---------------- I enjoyed it. Analogman