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D-Man, Thank you for the response.Maybe it's a meaningless ritual but whenever I change anything I like to "put some heat on it" before I run a signal.With regard to your observation I'll expand the question;same scenario but using a signal,white noise,pink noise,test tone disc etc.It's probably obvious by now I've already done this in practice in the past.I'm just a "worrier king" and am looking for more insight than the cliche "sounds OK is OK".Thank you again for your time! Analogman

Gentlemen, Will damage occur to a tube amp if it is powered up with no load on the taps and no input signal present?I am asking this in the context of doing so to burn in new circuitry,tubes etc.Even if there are better ways to do this would/could this practice cause damage or compromise components ie:output transformers? Thank You, Analogman

T-Shomaker, Your tenacity has served you well as a member of this forum.I went so far as to pay you a fatherly compliment regarding your observations on the nefarious "Water Chestnut" thread.I find it necesary in response to your inquiry ("what's your problem" ?) to suggest you seek your parent's guidence with regards to engaging adult strangers as to their motives or views.If this were the Fifties the above would have read;"Isn't it past your bedtime"You get my meaning son? Your Friend Mean Old Analogman

...so I can tell you as a BUD, that you are a stupid little pr#$k! Analogman

kev313, I SWEAR TO GOD I was just thinking seconds ago as I was taking a leak "all this thread needs now is kev313"!I think we are getting to know one another and I consider that a good thing.Or at least I hope so! Analogman

What a bunch of smug secular minded little piss ants you all are.Bigots are bigots regardless of "pedigree".Glad you find one another amusing,I find you pathetic and weak. Analogman

You're right about THAT, hoggy!CD is probably the best thing that ever happened to cantilevers of the nude variety owned by heavy drinkers! After a six-pack, CD sure "looks" like a good option to me! Not unlike ugly women with great personalities! Analogman

and never will,tubeglow!At their best CD "pressings" can only represent a sample of the information,Lps(AAA) are a complete representation of the waveform sans SOME bandwidth(the part bats,cats and dogs enjoy)! Analogman

kev313, Yes,I know the one.The one where I recanted my careless remark,referring to them as crap and admitted my experience was limited,correct?If I failed to thank you with regards to your offer then I am sincerely sorry.I would take you up on it but I am running KT88s in the large amp and 6BQ5s in my backup.I promise to work on my prose if you do the same with regards to your reading. Friends Forever Analogman

Just My Opinion Lp=Making Love CD=Watching Porno It's all a matter of how much effort you are willing to put into something. The leather analogy was excellent! With Kind Regards, Analogman

Dear Mr.Garrison, Thank you for helping me "see" the omissions of my narrow perspective!It surely would be a "photo finish" in the race for who "S$&KS" most with those ponies in the mix! Thanks again, Your Pal Analogman

mobile homeless, I stated(3)times that I was not targeting him or anyone else for that matter.I don't know of any way to put it more clearly.I also addressed the issue of "guilt by association" being a double edged sword.I in no way attempted to exonerate JJ Electronic of the fact that they did little if anything to discourage the publics perception of an intimate connection with Tesla.I again suggest you re-read my posts (if you care) for content and refrain from quoting me out of context as kev313 insists upon doing. With best regards, Analogman

kev313, It continues to puzzle me why you think anything stated in my original post was directed at you personally,especially after I stated that it was not, following your initial inquiry regarding the same.Am I not allowed to interject a point of fact that I consider important,and to share in one of kev313's sacred threads?I am not working from a conclusion,as you accused.Many,many people refer to JJ as JJ Tesla or Tesla JJ. I was simply pointing out that this is a misnomer,and at the same time substantiate my statement.I am so sorry my English construction does not meet your standards.This is often pounced upon by the self-important and the pseudo intellectual.You want to dole it out but seem very uncomfortable when you find yourself on the receiving end (the unarmed man ditty,now that's original) .I find UNDERSTANDING much more desirable than KNOWLEDGE and suggest you learn to read for the same (UNDERSTANDING).Not unlike music,everyone is not obligated to express themselves in a style "kev313" finds appealling. Analogman

My post was merely a request for accuracy when a specific product is mentioned,ANY PRODUCT,in this case a particular brand of tube.How does that not fit a thread discussing entirely anecdotal impressions on various tube brands? DeanG and Craig are the exception as they offer meaningful,OBJECTIVE insight.Otherwise I suggest Oxford's.I am only "pro" JJ in that I hope they survive.Look up "capitalism" you speed reading twit. My apologies to any technical minds I may have omitted. Analogman

Yeah,nothing more musically gratuitous and insipid than those shoe staring,teen Angst prophets Radiohead.Why, they're almost God like at their craft!!! No one quite comes close to s#$%king the unique way they do!Awesome Dude! Rock On Analogman

Someone needs a good dictionary. Analogman

No,kev313 I was not addressing you directly or ANYONE for that matter.I was simply making a statement of FACT.Any entrepreneur willing to engage the enterprise of manufacturing consumer audio electron tubes in today's world is to be applauded and deserves to be judged on his own merit."Guilt by association" can be GOOD or BAD for any business just as it can be a great diservice to potential consumers. Personally I don't care whether you like JJ tubes or not.Tube rolling is all a matter of taste. Analogman

JJ Electronic manufacturer of electron tubes A. Hlinku 4 002 01 Cadca SLOVAKIA www.jj-electronic.com Mr.Jan Jurco CEO/Owner also see; EUROTUBES www.eurotubes.com Phone-503-659-7401 (U.S.A.) 13545 S.E.Beech Milwaukie,OR 97222 Bob Pletka-Owner JJ Electronic and their tubes are a completely new and different entity having NO connection with Tesla except their ownership of some of the former's (Tesla) manufacturing equipment and that Mr.Jurco was a FORMER employee.It is inaccurate, and a disservice to Mr.Jurco and others to continue associating the two. Thank You, Analogman

Griffinator,WELL SPOKEN !!! Analogman

EXACTLY,CaptnBob Analogman

Precisely my point Tube Glow.You are correct for the the most part for most of the public in general.Those consoles were MARKETED as state of the art and they got away with it primarily due to WAF and space constraints encountered in many people's homes.Those things were not cheap.Doubled as modern furniture.BUT systems like the JBL 001 and others were available long before the 60s.Remember JBL's support?Plans,plans and more plans.Boxes already made for every pocketbook.And Heathkit There was plenty-o-good sound to go around but the public in general and marketers didn't seem interested.Much as it is today,wouldn't you agree? P.W.K. did much to change that,but people who really care about the Fidelity of their musical playback systems are still a minority compared to the public at large.Just look at how easily they murdered the Lp with hype promising "Perfect Sound Forever" Now with all this alphabet soup mumbo jumbo they are calling even this grand proclaimation into doubt.Makes me wonder where it all ends when it's been right in front of us for 50years. Just my opinion Analogman

First,Thanks for the offer kev313."Crap" was too broad as my exposure is limited.I just found them unreliable and inconsistant (my batch) which certainly doesn't make them ALL crap.Sheltie Dave,sorry I didn,t get the "buddy time bonding" thing,but please note,I've only been here a very short while.The only "BUD" I have ever had is my Son so I am new to this sort of thing.I have swilled a lot of Buds howeverYou know this thread reminds me,I've got a couple of small boxes of various miniature tube types,most barely used,including an octet of EiEL84 that I could stand for about a week.Made my ears bleed I will compile a list of what I have and post here and someone can make an offer if you're interested. NOSValves,to me it does make a difference Analogman

There may be LOUDER,MORE CHANNELS,MORE CRAP,new COMPRESSION SCHEMES available today,but show me something more natural and believable than say "Young Man With a HORN" on Bluenote circa:1952 and then tell me about "progress" Yours Truely, Analogman Hint:The problem's been with the consumer playback dictating to the SOFTWARE! Remember BETA vs. VHS??!!??

...and your point is? Analogman

They come pretty damn close to Genelex,Mullard and other greats.NOT saying that they're as good but they are a realistic option and available with a warranty. Glad you liked them. Analogman