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Another thing you could try is to remove the jack cup, then fashion something like an auto body panel puller (sliding weight) with hook end to put inside the cabinet back and apply some shocks to it from inside to try to knock the panel loose.
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Congrats on the find Jim. Are these the BG models?
On the older models like HIP, LSI, MCM the gasket material that was used seemed to have a butyl rubber compound that got VERY hard with age, to the point of being nearly solid. Takes some prying to get the bottoms off LSI I can tell you. I just use wide blade screwdriver at several points. Start about an inch off an corner (to cause the least damage. Put a flat metal putty knife against the edge of the side of cabinet, dig the blade into the back panel, and apply steady even pressure to pry up. It'll take quite a bit of force to get the gasket to release, but once you feel it pop a bit you can go down one edge and around the corner and it'll pop right off. I suggest scraping off all the old gasket and applying fresh, which you can get from PE.
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HF-T is a different horn than the 510, that's what's normally used in a theater 4 way configuration. Do you guys mean to say that you're using both 510 and 402 simultaneously?
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nfs- one day I shall reveneer them and put them actually into service. I flew to Miami and picked these up as one of my first acquisitions.
Price is determined largely by condition, modifications, and location. And Condition. Standard price used to be $500 for ones that work, move up from there, more for ones of historic interest. I sold a pair of III's recently for $3000, NIB is $4000 from big daddy Klipsch.
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I have a pair of 1963's. They are the vertical type, matched pairs (mirror images of each other), with the orange arrows on back, Jensen P15LL woofers, chrome K77 tweeters, old bobbin style chokes in the network and cane grilles.
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Doc is right, the CA 800T is a transformer-based loudspeaker made for such installations. One issue you get into with multiple standard loudspeakers is the enormous lengths of wiring eating up precious amplifier power, plus the impedance of the multiple speakers drops to the point to where receivers/amps can't handle the load (they put out more and more power into the easier loads until they burn up- that gets expensive). There is a matching subwoofer available. I can help or contact Trey at Klipsch they can usually help design a system that's right for your venue and budget.
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I"m fairly nearby. One of the keys to background music in an eating establishment is getting the speakers positioned so that they're not loud as hell in one area and cant' be heard in other areas. This is why multiple speakers are usually used but with careful positioning you can probably do some good in that very lively room (with the brick, no sound will be soaked up).
Music in such a venue as 'background noise' helps establish a mood and grants the diners some sense of intimacy as nearby diners can't hear their conversations, so there is very much a psychological and marketing aspect to providing music in such a venue.
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That makes me sad, that vault had been lovingly stored and cared for and transported umpteen numbers of Cornwalls. Sad that it ended up in the hands of someone who didn't give a damn. If I'd known the vault was in IN/OH , I'd have offered to store it and make it available.
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If I'm reading this all correctly, you'd only want to utilize these in Cornwalls with the K77M mud magnet, not the alnico, and preferably with the solder lug (2 piece phase plug) K55V, correct?
Also I'm questioning why the polarity is inverted on BOTH the mid and tweeter on the schematics, again if I'm reading these right, the B is all 6db slopes, the B2 is 12 db LPF on the woofer, 12 db HPF on the tweeter, and still 6 db slopes on the mid. Seems you'd flip the woofer and tweeter in such an arrangement.
Getting ready to re-cap a few CW here, would rather make the correct decision.
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Definitive Technologies made a bipolar speaker also the BP2. Worked pretty well for it's era. We only had 5 channels, the speakers being placed next to the listener position reflected sound off the front and back walls, and the SIDES as well, which gave a very diffuse surround field.
Yeah we all got better at it later.
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Bring em to me if you wish I"m on NE side Indy. See PM for phone number. I'll take a look and assess the situation for you.
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My glass tops are NON-tempered (not needed for this application) 1/4" glass, I prefer clear to see the natural wood grain. The corners are radiused, and the edges are sanded for a smooth appearance, but not polished, which costs considerably extra.
THere are small nickel sized hard plastic spacers placed between the glass and wood surfaces. These are called DISC TABS by my glass cutter. I put them on corners and about every foot, so 9 per LS top (2 ft 2).
I have them on my LS and CW, and they look very similar to Scalawags, except for my rounded corners and the disc tabs. I've had them on for years and no veneer pulling or discoloration due to the plastic tabs. I have the same situation on Dad's old walnut desk and credenza with no issues whatsoever. I think the tabs let the wood breathe a bit.
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sit waaaaay closer to the woofer?
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Jimjimbo, are you in the truck yet?
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'noise-cancelling' so it filters out the drummer, eh?
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Push-pull version has 9k spike not 6k spike.
Edited, yeah I was wondering about the number as I was typing that. Thanks for the correction. Sometimes I wonder if I'm hearing things, but the longer I'm in sound reinforcement the more I"m sure that I can trust my ears. Sadly that means I hear every little nuance and aggravating sound as well. Recently pointed to a part of a PA stack and said 'those are out of phase' - which they were - to the amazement of the other guys.
It's hell being me sometimes lol
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Gary, would be interested in your outcome of RTA without the Audyssey, as a true test of the similarity of the K77F. How is such a simple device so far off, even a pair of modern ones?
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I have a pink noise generator as part of my RTA iPhone app, but also a CD and a copy of that track on my iPod that I frequently use for PA applications (iPod playing through PA, iPhone in my hand watching the chart as I walk the room/grounds).
Have a couple old MCM (like Parts Express) EV35 (M type) tweeters in a Hersey box that I could steal and get away from the alnicos.
Have a set of BEC early 4500 design networks and his tweeters that I could then retrofit back into the Heresy box. That makes everything whole again without buying a single part.
While I'm at it, I have two solder lug K55V in a drawer that I replaced diaphragms in 2009 (I think they came out of my MCM1900's) that I could swap into the Khorns as well. What's in there now is the push pin type and BEC A/AA does NOT have the P-trap circuit to get rid of the 9k spike.
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My 77 Khorns have one tweeter that is significantly weaker than the other. They have BEC AA networks so I don't think there is an imbalance there. The diaphragms are not blown as they create sound properly, just one is less output than the other. So much so that I can't listen to them without going slightly crazy. These are the round back Alnico tweeters btw.
Here's what I propose to do about it.
Gather up 5-6 K77's on my work bench.
Fire them each up individually using an AA network, using pink noise and phone RTA, also music and my ears
To determine the best matched set, then reinstall them in the Khorns.
Any issues with this methodology?
Failing this, I might just spring for new K77F's, I think the AK5(?) total rebuild kits are out of my price range for now.
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Is it musical?
We have a WINNER folks!
Just get the Klipsch THX system and never look back.
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would like to see a photo of the actual veneer, the edge banding sure is yellow for mahogany, but I'll certainly takes Budman's word for it.
Yeah definitely my bad.
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Very few have a warning point, I gave my wife one just to try it.
and you lived to tell the tale... amazing
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you, you have your own special way....
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appears to be walnut, lacquer - in sunlight that frequently yellowed to the finish you see in the photo.
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trade labor for Klipsch
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Hey SF, I'd be there but too many gigs here.