Painful Reality
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I’m running my CW IV with either a Line Magnetic LM845ia SET amp (tube) or a First Watt F7 (solid state).
Both are awesome amps but in my setup, the F7 does better at low volume (up to 85dB).
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On 10/5/2022 at 7:02 AM, sunnysal said:
I indeed am here on the forum, and I indeed use in my main system an amazing 2A3 PP amp made by our favorite Mining Geologist! (is that the right Profession?). I wish he had kept in touch here more often, many Klipsch forum members have bought or built his designs and we all enjoy the music! warm regards from sunny el salvador, Tony
Close… Not mining geologist but mining engineer.
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15 hours ago, mreeter said:
Thank you for the welcome 🙂 That is my current room, the one I will have in a few months is in the sketch in the initial post, I'm compromising for sure. Probably not going to pick up some Forte's until we get moved in and can talk the Dealer into letting me demo a pair in the new space. I'm relieved that the room 'might' work for them.
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3 hours ago, mikebse2a3 said:
They are ASC Tube Traps from Acoustical Science Corporation and yes they are tunable absorbers/diffusers which I find them to be a powerful and indispensable tool for optimizing the listening experience.
I started a thread about 1 year ago with my experimentations with variations on using the QSF (Quick Sound Field) methods used by recording and mastering engineers in my listening room and I’ve learned much since that time and I hope to add updates when time allows.
I’ve provided many informational links in the thread that you and others might find interesting.
miketn
Thanks!
I much appreciate the info! I’ll check that out.
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21 hours ago, mreeter said:
Hello everyone, newb here with a question on adequate room width for Forte IV that I'm considering. Wife and I are downsizing and moving into our retirement home (my final resting place) I'm loosing my fairly spacious room that I enjoy now and will be in a spare bedroom that has a front wall of only 11.5 ft. wide.
I had Forte III in my listening room that have the exact same width. Soundstage and imaging were very good.
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4 hours ago, mikebse2a3 said:
Well I believe we all love music in different ways but I have been fascinated with its reproduction and this has lead to my several decades long search for knowledge and understanding in many fields (especially room acoustics) to achieve and maximize all aspects that lead to accurate reproduction.
The journey has been filled with very fascinating, enlightening and frustrating experiences that keeps me engaged and learning to this day..!!!
My current room/system is just the latest manifestation of my research and efforts at understanding an unbelievably complex multi-dimensional process.
miketn 🙂
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1 hour ago, mikebse2a3 said:
I consider quality of imaging and especially depth of imaging to be a critical measurement of how well I’ve integrated my system with the room.
This is my latest setup with the La Scala AL5 ME and KPT-1502-HLS prototype sub.
I’ve audibly identified and mapped the areas of the room(which is almost square and has real modal strength challenges) where I could minimize the La Scala AL5 coupling with the (Front Wall to Back Wall problem modes in the 20Hz to 200Hz region) and (Left Wall to Right Wall problem modes also in the 20Hz to 200Hz region) while also listening for the best imaging in width and depth along with the loudspeakers totally disappearing as a sound source (unless the recording mix itself locates an image at the loudspeaker itself). Loudspeaker movements as little as 6” is critical for optimizing my setup and IMHO no room treatments or electronic equalization can fully substitute or replace this step in system/room optimization..!!!
Nice room! I totally agree with your assessment of speaker placement being the first in line for room acoustic. Sadly it’s also the one we have the less flexibility. For a typical room size that is. You have zero constraints on that front in your room!-
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1 hour ago, Shakeydeal said:
Tread lightly around here with that kind of talk…….😉
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10 hours ago, OO1 said:
the Badge of the Cornwall IV is normally installed by the Factory ,,,,,,, ,1 row lower than the pattern of the grille's fabric as in picture no 1 .
Looking at this, that would still put the logo in front of the horn itself but probably not very consequential. Mines were located much lower. It very possible the logos fell down during transportation and were poorly repositionned by the dealer. It’s a long way to Australia… -
1 minute ago, tigerwoodKhorns said:
NIce, I have always wanted to try a pair of Sonus Farber.
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5 hours ago, Islander said:
Those are some monstrous speaker cables! Could you tell us a little bit about them?
These are Foilflex cables. Relatively unknown outside Australia. I simply fell in love with these. These cables are extrmely dynamic and “psychedelic” in the sense that these are really good at doing the 3D thing. Not overly cheap but not into crazy price range territory either. Their intervonnects are also excellent. They also manufacture the Curious Cable range of USB and ethernet cables.-
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4 minutes ago, Crankysoldermeister said:
Wouldn't be the first time I used an encyclopedia for something other than reading.
The beauty of an encyclopedia is you just need to display it in order to look clever!-
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3 minutes ago, Crankysoldermeister said:
I sit too close for Cornwalls, but have have Forte IV on my radar.
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40 minutes ago, OO1 said:
flawless setup
I would not saw flawless. I was using the Forte in a way these were not really designed to be used. The main issue was the proximity to the side walls. Despite this the was an awesome setup that did put a huge smile on my face for two years. I recently had a change over and got a Pass Labs INT60 and a pair of Sonus Faber Electa Amator III. And this setup is mindblowing. The smaller size of the Sonus Faber integrates better in the room. This is my holographic setup for studio albums while my Cornwall IV are for my live, kick in the guts setup.
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28 minutes ago, CWelsh said:
Nice looking set up! Are your Fortes on wheels?
I'm still tinkering with my Forte III set up. I currently have them about 18" from the wall and slightly toed. I can't say the depth is incredible, but there is some, and I get enough bass without a sub to make me happy. I'm using a Nelson Pass ACA and the imaging is great.
My Forte were 1.8m from the back wall (about 6 feets). Depth was incredible. I did mount these on Isotek Gaia II isolation feet. It did help a lot with reducing the cabinet resonance.-
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1 hour ago, jjptkd said:
Congrats on the new Cornwalls! The IV's look pretty awesome I'd love to try them out some day.. can I ask what did they replace and how do they compare? thanks.
They did replace my Forte III, which did replace my Heresy IV which did replace my PMC Twenty5.22.Cornwalls always have been my favorite Heritage speakers as it’s relatively room independent compared to the La Scala, Belle or Khorns. The khorns or La Scala are awesome if you have the right room but these frankly sucks if you don’t (been there, done that).
The Forte are also excellent. Didn’t care much for the Heresy IV. The soundstage was weird (too low).
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16 minutes ago, The Dude said:
Why not just remove the grill, wouldn't that in it self be a better mod? Plus not hair dryer or re gluing is needed.
That is a very pragmatic approach that I should normally abide too. The CW are still in their break-in period so I prefer the sound with the grills on. Plus the grills really tied the room together…-
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I keep reading reviews about Klipsch Heritage not doing depth. Well true if you have these in a conventional setup close to the wall. I’ve ran a pair of Klipsch Forte III in my listening room in a fairly unconventional setup where there were 1.8m from the wall and the imaging and depth were simply incredible. Obviously, there is no free lunch and such a setup does require a pair of REL T9i subs to complement the bass.
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4 hours ago, KT88 said:
BTW what is the background of your name "painful reality" and the detection of such painful realities🤠?
The painful reality that despite all my effort to stay away of audio forums, I’m actually addicted to these massive time wasters. As far as my detection of painful realities, I’m an engineer so I dismantle stuff, measure and put everything back together hoping I won’t be left with spare parts in the end…-
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9 hours ago, Marvel said:
Dean is here with a different name
Tony is here sometimes. I think he may have the one-off pp 2a3 amp you built.
You still in the mine business?
Marvel
Thanks, yeah, still digging holes for a living.
Pays quite a lot more than building amps I must say…
It’s good to feed the audio addiction.
yeah, Tony still uses the PP2A3 I made for him. Still trouble free after 22-23 years. The wood of the chassis was one of the most gorgeous piece of wood I ever saw.
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7 hours ago, Chief bonehead said:
Ummm. Actually no
Definitely was on mine. The bottom of the logo was about 45mm from the top of the grill. The center of the tweeter is at 50mm. Might be only on mines for all I care. Maybe the logos fell at some point and were poorly replaced by the dealer or maybe these are confused to live upside down in Oz…Not a big deal as far as I’m concerned. These are out of the way now. Took less than 5 minutes to sort.
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10 hours ago, Crankysoldermeister said:
Looks like it’s above the tweeter in the pictures I just looked at, but okay. Hey, welcome back!
Dean.
Thanks Dean,
It’s actually pretty much in front and very audible. Made me wonder why the heck going to the trouble of designing a new phase plug only to block the tweeter with a plastic plug in front!
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For some bizarre reasons, the Cornwall logo on the grill is rigth in front of the tweeter. One of those things that makes you go “mmmh”.
it’s easy to relocate it on the sides. Just it the logo gently with a hair dryer to soften the glue, remove it carefully and relocate it out of the way of the tweeter.
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5 hours ago, Curious_George said:
I always wondered what the word "Seth" had to do with the amp. Any info?
I pretty much always named my amps in relation with the egyptian mythology. Seth was An egyptian god. It was a bit of a pun on SET since that was the only PP in the Pantheon Audio range.-
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First Watt
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F7, F8 and SIT-3 are my favorites…