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I recently picked up a MINT pair of 1982 Belles for $2k. I love them. I've had KHorns and the Belles are preferable to me as didn't have the ideal listening room for he KHorns.
The ones you are looking at appear to be newer. I would echo what others have said:
The price seems a bit high for the condition,however, they are worth what you are willing to pay
If you have a great room with corners, you may want to consider KHorns
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I'm a huge fan of quad sound using two sets of speakers (Belles front, Lascalas rear). I use one 18 watt tube amp and an Adcom GSF-6 speaker selector. I've had friends say they prefer one pair of speakers at a time, but I really like the room filling effect of two pairs at a time. It isn't "pure" two channel, but I guess I can listen to my system any way I like..............
I used to have a pair of Adcom monoblocks, but really prefer the rebuilt Dynaco tube amp.
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Please guys!!! No matter who is right or wrong here, this is really trashing the good Karma of the thread and the idea behind it. How about taking the "bump and posting" argument somewhere else? Thank you.
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Joe, seems as though you've created a lot of good karma here. PayPal funds sent.
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I'd have to agree with the "Tubes and Horns" quotes, although there are many nice sounding SS amps out there. The biggest dumbass mistake I think I've made is thinking "big speakers, big amp".
We all know we have between 99-105db/watt depending on model and year of production of Heritage line speakers, but you'd be amazed at the giant amps hooked up to them. And I'm guilty as charged there, and sure many others here would agree they've made that mistake. I am currently powering a pair of Belles AND LaScalas about as loud as you want to listen to them (or at least as loud as you SHOULD listen to them) with an 18 watt Triode Dynaco ST70 rebuilt by Will Vincent.
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I have seen and heard the Volti Vittoras in person and they are fantastic. However, a mint pair of Belles just happened to fit my budget a whole lot better! However, if you have the cash----Greg Roberts has done a fantastic job on the Vittoras.
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I just bought a BEAUTIFUL pair of Belles 1982 in Red Oak, picking them up tomorrow. Went to see them at the seller's home and they could not be told from new except for the Crites crossover update. What a score!!! I'll post pics once I get them home.
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Funny you should ask, that was a model I never knew existed until I saw them listed on EBay. Certainly closer to KP301s than a Heresy. Beyond that, pretty sure they are a relatively rare bird, so might be interesting to own a pair simply for the sake of rarity.
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I currently have (or have owned) most of the ones you've asked about. I currently have a pair of the KP201 version 1 in my living room (along with a pair of SVS subs) and love them. My favorite version of the Heresy and I've had most over the years. Much preferred for indoor use over the KP250s, which to me are an outdoor speaker to be used with a subwoofer.
I also have a pair of the KP301 version 1 and love them as well in a "short throw" environment, as they do not have the Tractrix horns Mike refers to in the later version which gives them more dispersion. The KP301s (either version) are a fantastic pair of overall speakers for either home or small to medium size party or "industrial" use. Much more of a "full" sound due to cabinet volume and woofer size out of the KP301s than you'll ever see out of any version of the Heresy.
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Hello Ara, sorry I spaced out and didn't recognize you as the purveyor of my fine KP250s. Loving those. I am actually having a pair of Bill Fitzmaurice Titan 48s built by a local friend with better carpentry skills and more spare time than I have. Will post a few pics once they're done.
Mike
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Nice job! I have some 2 piece LSIs with new metal trim that I am planning to restore soon. Will try and post some similar pics.
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Location? And is carpet all full of beer and cat urine, or in reasonable shape? [
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Cane grilles make the best cat scratching posts ever!!!!! Just wait and see...............................
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I see the comment above about American Cinema Equipment. I can vouch for their fast, efficient service on anything "Pro". I think most of us have found that a lot of Klipsch dealers seem to be barely interested in selling the Heritage line these days, much less dealing with getting Cinema or "business line" speakers.
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I had a pair of these (with the optional crossover within the sub box input panel). If yours do have the crossovers in the subs, allows you to run the whole setup easily with one amp. I'm not an expert on "Pro" amps, but I bought a QSC GX5 due to the flexibility and a friend who owns a music store recommending that as the best bang for the buck. That one amp (I think I paid $400-450) had the system cranking loud and clear as it needed to be.
I'm sure other would recommned bi-amping, getting higher quality/cost amp like a Crown---- just saying I thought I had what I thought was fantastic sound going the "bargain" amp route and still own the QSC and very happy with it for the price.
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The "factory direct" way that SVS operates probably means you can easily stay under your $2k budget as you don't have an audio dealer (nothing against them by the way) making a 50% or more markup on a sub that you get from SVS for $1600. That same sub if purchased through a dealer network might be $2500.
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I'll second the SVS suggestion. Best bang for the buck out there from both the research I did and the satisfaction level of both myself and everyone I know who owns one. Top notch build quality and components--and BEAUTIFUL.
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I had a pair. Thought they sounded fine given that I got them cheap. But I paid $75 for them, so not sure how much the pair you're looking at is going to cost you, or what your intended application is. I'd say if you're getting them for under $100 or so in good conditon, they're a good all around 2 way speaker. I used them as shop speakers, so never got into how truly "musical" they were as there were usually power tools running in the background they were competing with for sound.............
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Cool snag. Haven't ever seen any of those for sale used. Please post finished project pics
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Steve, not to jump on you, but have to agree with Mike (Fritz). This thread has been kind of confusing from the get go as to what is actually currently for sale and for what price. That said, really enjoying the HI-SMs!!!
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I think it is Tractrix horns. At least that is what I've been told about my KP 301s and KP201s. I also have a pair of the KP250 IIs. Also think you may get Neutrik NL4 connectors rather than 1/4" locking Neutrik connectors on the original versions.
But like most stuff I post on here, I'm certainly subject to being told I'm wrong...........................
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Thanks Mike. Seems as though many people favor the orginal version rather than the IIs, but I'm very happy with the sound I'm getting from these. And putting a slight radius on all the edges to remove a few nicks and dents, three coats of Durabond clear laquer and adding slant risers.
As a general rule, what is the age at which you should consider recapping the crossovers? And is it age combined with use, or simply age? I have some mint KP301s that sat in dry storage for many years and saw very little use, so wondering whether that has any bearing on recapping?
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I recently picked up a very nice pair of KP201s in raw birch with cloth grilles. Am curious as to when they were built. The S/Ns are 8764106 and 8764109. I know what that should mean as have all the data sheets that should help me figure this out---- but these have the NL4 speakon connectors rather than the 1/4" jacks that I thought only came on the newer models made in more recent years.
Is this another famous case of the Industrial line not having serial numbers sequences that really mean anything logical, or am I missing something here? I am quite sure from looking at the input plates on both sides that the NL4s were installed at factory and not added after production.
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