rocmuzo Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 First of all, these forums are great. I have learned alot from just reading the quesitons and answers here. I am new to the HT arena and am in the process of putting together a system. My wife and I like to both watch movies and listen to music. So far I have: RF3II mains,RC3 center, and some old bookshelf speakers to temporarily use as the rear center/surrounds until I can find something better.(I would like to get the RS-3's, but the wife isn't so sure she likes the size), I have an svs 20-39pci on order. Now the big question, what receiver to get? I read great things about the Outlaw 1050, but it doesn't have DPLII. Is this a big deal? The new Onkyo 600 has it and is about the same price. I would like to stay in the $500 range if possible. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audio Flynn Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 You can always chase a new format or surround function like PLII. I recently got a Model 6000 Dish Network receiver and I think the Pro Logic sounds better than the old satleite receiver. Source material is important. My S VHS sounds real good but picture is not even close to DVD. I like DTS the best followed by DD 5.1. I personally would use PLII very little; I watch DVDs and can get DD 5.1 from my sattelite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 i'm lookin forward to DPL II when my pre/pro upgrades. thing is w/ dig cable & sat, unless it's certain DD 5.1 broadcasts available only on certain channels like hbo, starz & showtime, dig channel programs are broadcast in Dolby Digital (AC-3) 2.0. this is where DPL II would i think be great to use over DPL I. some people say they also like 2 channel music in DPL II. i'll have to test that when (if) the time comes. ------------------ My Home Systems Page This message has been edited by boa12 on 03-16-2002 at 03:46 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audio Flynn Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Boa, What pre pros are you considering. certainly not something you would do just for PLII? I really like the deal I got on my Sherwood Newcastle demo Spearates I bought last fall; but the preamp is quite outdated although it sounds really nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwatkins Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 With my Denon 3802 and regular broadcast cable and digital cable the majority of stuff I get is Pro Logic. In this case the DPL II is a significant improvement - really makes a difference in the overall feel and imaging experience. I do not like DPL II (at least with the Denon) for music. Too much emphasis on the center and that seems to change the music in a way I find disagreeable (sorry that is as scientific as I can get). However, I do like the 7 channel stereo - in this case I can set the center level very low and get a very good stereo (more Quad like) image that really enhances the music by filling the room without changing the original sound. As always, this is my opinion and my ear.... ------------------ Hwatkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougdrake2 Posted March 17, 2002 Share Posted March 17, 2002 Rocmuzo - I think the DPL II question is best answered by knowing what you plan to use as source material for most of your HT viewing. It will really only be effective on VHS and Dolby Surround broadcast TV/cable/satellite. Doug ------------------ My System Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig6519 Posted March 17, 2002 Share Posted March 17, 2002 rocmuzo, Have you considered Harman Kardon, You can pick up the 520 from onecall for under $600 and the 320 for less than $500. And they are both loaded. DD. DTS. DTS-ES. DPL2. Logic 7. I just replaced my Yamaha DSP-A1 with the H/K 520 and love it. Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted March 17, 2002 Share Posted March 17, 2002 a-flynn, now got a b&k reference 30 pre/pro that is itself upgradable. hopefully by year-end they have at least a dsp software upgrade that includes DPLII, dts es 6.1 discrete & dts: neo (hear this is like DPLII). like hw, i do really like the 2 channel music in 6 channel (speaker) stereo. ------------------ My Home Systems Page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocmuzo Posted March 17, 2002 Author Share Posted March 17, 2002 dougdrake2,thanks for your opionion. souce material will be from a toshiba 2800 dvd player and a sony 5 disc cd player. I will also hook up my sony vhs to replay tv shows that I tape. We have 30-40 movies on vhs but we are buying and renting everything on dvd now. We have regular cable for now, but at some point I will probably upgrade to the digital cable, it's not that much more. I'm wondering if DPLII is that big of a deal. People seem split on using it for music listening. I am also reading the other threads regarding this. I would like to have my receiver by the time the sub ships. That should be in a couple of weeks. So I will have to make some decisions pretty quick. The local store will be getting the new onkyo 600's in next week. I think I will check one out and hopefully get some more feedback on the outlaw 1050. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocmuzo Posted March 17, 2002 Author Share Posted March 17, 2002 craig6519, thanks, I was looking at the HK's, but than I read there were some quality control issues on their stuff in my price range. I don't know if that's a load of b.s. or not, but I am keeping my options open. A local retailer where I bought my klipsch speakers is getting in alot of new stuff and they are making great deals on existing stock including Hk. I'll check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig6519 Posted March 17, 2002 Share Posted March 17, 2002 rocmuzo, as far as I know the Q.C. issues were on the previous models 210,310 ect.. the 20 series seem great to me but maybe you've read something different. Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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