4tay Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Yes, I know these are budget speakers meant for budget surround. BUT.... I built a 12" dayton titanic III sub with 500w plate amp some time ago and wanted to put it to use. Stock, the speakers do have stridency in the treble, not what I would call smooth by any means. This is a bedroom system btw. Holly Cole should not be quite this "glary". The only way I'd consider these speakers "Done" by Klipsch rules, is that they meet specs for the price point. No way do they have caps that will bring out the potential. The stock crossover has a 24uf/100v Np electrolytic, and a 6 uf 100v electrolytic NP. Replacements: Two 6uF Sonicaps and Two 24uF NP caps. The sonicaps will be the most crucial since they are the link to the tweeter where the NP just blocks for the woofer. I figured for $2.00 I might as well install a better NP than the factory used. I have some cardas stranded OFC I may slap in there.It's one of those "While I'm in there. I might as well..." And oh yeah, I removed the asinine Bristol head screws that hold in the binding post/xover plate and installed standard Phillips. If the tweeter diaphragm or drive can be upgraded reasonably, I am open to suggestions- especially if anyone has modded these before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Disregard................[:^)] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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4tay Posted May 11, 2010 Author Share Posted May 11, 2010 Add to this project a sc-1 center channel. It's getting the new sonicap treatment. Sure to take that "smear" out of the treble. The culprit is a cheap 5uf BP electrolytic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmandaCarl Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 very helpfull indeed _____________________ Uggs ugg boots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4tay Posted May 13, 2010 Author Share Posted May 13, 2010 As in another thread, I completed the sb-2 crossover mods. Listening to Holly Cole, the glare is gone from the piano, and the stridency as well. These are low end speakers, limited more so by the xover than the drivers. They are no reference speaker at this point, but the aluminum tweet is a LOT better than it was allowed to be with factory crossover parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4tay Posted May 13, 2010 Author Share Posted May 13, 2010 The SC-1 center channel is done. I can hear a *slightly* more open sound, but the biggest change came in removing most, if not all of the smear in the vocals and occasional sibilance. Much smoother, thanks to a $12.00 5uf sonicap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 You're hearing things. Caps are caps, at least - that's what the guys from Klipsch tell me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4tay Posted May 13, 2010 Author Share Posted May 13, 2010 So I have heard...if KLIPSCH folks say the speaker is done as is and can't be improved....it must be true! Now...did I leave my cryogenically treated M'Pingo pucks next to my Richard Grey power conditioner or was it under my Totem beak for safekeeping? Maybe I lent them to Peter Belt so that his digital wristwatch won't ruin speaker imaging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuzzzer Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 4tay, would you mind posting the exact parts you changed in the SC-1 and what the new parts are? I was thinking of doing what you did to my SC-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4tay Posted May 15, 2010 Author Share Posted May 15, 2010 4tay, would you mind posting the exact parts you changed in the SC-1 and what the new parts are? I was thinking of doing what you did to my SC-1. Save cash and effort. The most substantive change comes with swapping the 5uf tweeter cap--the only cap that is in the path of the driver. A replacement will cost $2.30 each for a Daytons, about $11 each for sonicaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuzzzer Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Cool. Where did you get your Sonicaps from? I've never changed crossover components myself as far as individual crossover components. I'm assuming this involved soldering? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4tay Posted May 15, 2010 Author Share Posted May 15, 2010 I ordered my sonicap (gen I) from www.critesspeakers.com (Bob Crites) It involves unscrewing the circuit board, desoldering and -resoldering the cap. Anyone that has soldering experiance can do it in 5 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 Anyone that has soldering experiance can do it in 5 minutes. It takes me that long just to find my spool of solder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4tay Posted May 16, 2010 Author Share Posted May 16, 2010 Before I went on a rampage and modded 7 sets of Klipsch in a row this past 2 weeks, my hakko and cardas stuff was buried in the garage for 4 years. I had done zero projects in that time. I had to sift through boxes and debris. Took a lot longer than 5 minutes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4tay Posted May 23, 2010 Author Share Posted May 23, 2010 Note to all: My favorite Klipsch speakers always have, and always will be those models that feature a separate tweeter and midrange horn. In my experiance, just that feature alone give the horn a presence, clarity and "bigness" that small two ways can't match. The KG4's horn aperture is bigger than the sb-2 and that alone casts a bigger soundfield. As much as I like my hotrodded KG4's, hotrodded heresy's do everything better except bass below 60hz. HII's are my next project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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