boa12 Posted April 16, 2001 Share Posted April 16, 2001 yes keith, i believe t-man has a point. & if i put in 1 of those giant tv like you're talkin, one 30 would be in the closet & the other on the front porch like i said, i can work w/ the video thing - these klf sound so good (along w/ my vel hgs) that I could watch the tube through a kalideoscope & still be happy. t-man, sounds to me like the speaker is in fact skewing your lines. same thing happened to my sony as soon as I put the klf30 on spikes, which raised them about an inch. my guess is that big ole upper woofer or the midrange magnet came more into play. actually, don't notice it at all during movies, but do on cable when i bring up the menu/schedule (where I am usually at trying to decide what to watch). but also notice some picture breakup on dvd & cable when the volume is cranked & much bass- maybe because when those woofers/drivers are really driving they're throwing out more electrons? anyway, i guess those huge cans of pickled beets from sam's may come in handy. but maybe the sony will keep fixin itself. & hopefully the new magnets help. anybody have a recommendation for which epoxy glue to get at Home Depot? Elmer's? ------------------ Klipsch KLF-30 (front), KLF-C7, Cornwall I (rear) Velodyne HGS-18 sub woofer Monsterbass 400 sub interconnect & Monster S-12 cable Sony STR-DE935 a/v receiver Sony DVP-C650D cd/dvd player Sony Trinitron 27" stereo tv Toshiba hi-fi stereo vcr Technics dual cassette deck Technics direct drive turntable Scientific Atlanta Explorer 2000 digital cable box 2nd room: Klipsch RF-3 (front), RC-3, cheap little Technics (rear) Kenwood KR-9600 AM/FM stereo receiver (vintage '75) Teac PD-D1200 5-disk cd player Sega Genesis game player Sub: None yet rock on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted April 16, 2001 Share Posted April 16, 2001 Do the same problems occur with projection TV's? My KLF 30's will be arriving in the next few days and I will be placing them next to my Toshiba 65" projection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted April 16, 2001 Share Posted April 16, 2001 t-man, yes I imagine you are right.But did you imagine that I also had a 27" Sony tube prior to buying the Sony RP.Never had a problem whatsoever.Imagine that. Orion, I would imagine that this answers your question. And to all a good night. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete C Posted April 18, 2001 Share Posted April 18, 2001 Color distortion on the edge is caused by stray magnetism. It can be removed by degaussing the cabinet frame around the tube. I've seen many computer monitors with geometric distortion, cheap ones right out of the box and older, worn-out ones. Since it disappears when not in the same room as the speakers, I would say that something in that room has picked up enough magnetism to affect the TV yoke, not the CRT's frame. There are magnetic rings around the neck of the tube to help align the yoke. Maybe that's what you aren't supposed to degauss. One of those rings may be amplifying some stray magnetic field in the room. Any of those TV guys have a gauss meter that are too expensive if you aren't in the biz? cheap gauss meter boa12- I went to the store to buy a Toshiba set to match my DVD. The Tosh was set up next to a Sony. No contest. I had a Sony 27" for almost 7 years before the red gun died. I bought something "just as good" but cheaper, because of the Sony repair cost. Back to Sony now. The slight curve of the glass is hardly noticeable to me, but it helps keep reflected lights looking small (lens affect.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted April 19, 2001 Share Posted April 19, 2001 pete, yea i like sony tubes too. just saw somebody had a 32" wega right by the klf-20 & no problems, saw the kv27 wega has that magnetic pole anti-distortion stuff but it's a flat screen...i thought that was good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete C Posted April 19, 2001 Share Posted April 19, 2001 The flat screen looks perfect on the WEGAs. My problem was room light. The flat screen reflected a lamp the same size as the lamp. The slightly curved Trinitron tube makes the lamp 1/4 the size (or less.) In a perfect cinema room, this isn't a problem, because the lamps are off or subdued. I have a bad habit of reading while "watching" TV, which is the majority of my viewing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted April 22, 2001 Share Posted April 22, 2001 t-man, http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7 Keith Parts Express catalog Pg. 87 Degaussing Coil $32.50 ea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-man Posted May 8, 2001 Author Share Posted May 8, 2001 Boa, Did you get those bucking magnets yet? Did they do the trick? update: I took my TV into the shop, and was able to replicate my problems in front of the aged repair-man. He manually degaussed for me 2X with no noticeable effect or improvement. He told me that my problem was not noticeable by 99% of the population, and that it was not repairable, at least...not in a cost effective way. He said he wouldn't even touch it and that no TV's were perfect. No charge. Now, I think if I'm in the 1%, then I should have the TV the way it USED TO BE - at least... So it appears as though my TV has been permanently damaged. At least I have good sound. Looks like that $75 center speaker wasn't such a good deal anyway. Looks like crap (arrived damaged), ruined TV, forced modification of my ent center...but I sure do like how it sounds. Without space for a bigger TV, T-man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted May 8, 2001 Share Posted May 8, 2001 yea t, ended up putting the bucks on all the klf-30 driver mags & it's back to a good, non-skewed pic as far as I can tell. y trinitron seemed to degauss itself ok. putting on those bucks was no walk in the park. i won't even get into that - too traumatic i am looking at a new 27" Sony Wega though. but ok for now. ------------------ Klipsch KLF 30 (front), KLF C-7, Cornwall I (rear) Velodyne HGS-18 sub woofer Monsterbass 400 sub interconnects & Monster XP & Z series cable Marantz SR-8000 receiver Sony DVP-C650D cd/dvd player Sony Trinitron 27" stereo tv Toshiba hi-fi stereo vcr Technics dual cassette deck Scientific Atlanta Explorer 2000 digital cable box Boa's Listenin Lounge: Klipsch RF-3 (front), RC-3, cheap little Technics (rear) Monster MCX Biwires/Bananas Sony STR-DE935 a/v receiver Kenwood KR-9600 AM/FM stereo receiver (power amp for RF-3) Teac PD-D1200 5-disk cd changer Technics direct drive turntable Sega Genesis game player Sub: None yet rock on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted May 8, 2001 Share Posted May 8, 2001 Welcome back t-man.I guess everyone should know that while t-man was away he was also using his pocket pistol,and is now expecting a new ENTERTAINMENT CENTER. Only smaller.And this one eats.Congratulations to you and your better half t-man. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-man Posted May 8, 2001 Author Share Posted May 8, 2001 Boa, Glad to hear that the bucks fixed your problem. Hopefully, you figured out that you need to lay your speakers down on their backs BEFORE you begin unscrewing! As for myself, I finally found a use for all those heavy college text books that I managed to keep. They make good weights for clamping down magnets that want to "slide" around when trying to bond them. yea....t-baby on the way...those who are the praying type, please keep mom and baby in your prayers...having early complications, but should be OK. She needs bed-rest for a while. I figured vibration therapy would work (via sub output), but poor response (: T-man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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