DwK Posted June 24, 2001 Share Posted June 24, 2001 What happens when you put the Red wire in the Black output, and the Black wire in the Red output on the back of the Amp? I think that is what I accidently did with my dads amp, and I think thats how I messed it up. What does that Do exactly? Explain please. (this is the new question I was talking about in the Clipping topic) ------------------ Living Room: Yamaha Natural Sound A-500 Stereo Amplifier 2 Klipsch Heresys on A switch 2 Fisher STV-873 on B switch My Room: Klipsch Pro Medias 2 Fisher Surrounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougdrake2 Posted June 24, 2001 Share Posted June 24, 2001 This won't actually hurt anything in a physical sense (unless your Dad whups your butt for messin' with his stuff ). If both speakers are hooked up that way, you won't have a problem. But if only one is hooked up that way, and the other is red-red black-black, then the speakers will be out of phase. One will be pushing when the other is pulling, and they will cancel each other out a bit. You may or may not hear the difference. In summary, it doesn't matter as long as the hookups are the same on all speakers. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwK Posted June 24, 2001 Author Share Posted June 24, 2001 What happens, if those wires thouch? The red wire touches the black wire........ ? ------------------ Living Room: Yamaha Natural Sound A-500 Stereo Amplifier 2 Klipsch Heresys on A switch 2 Fisher STV-873 on B switch My Room: Klipsch Pro Medias 2 Fisher Surrounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted June 24, 2001 Share Posted June 24, 2001 dwk, that's a short circuit & not good for the amp. could blow it but it should have a protection circuit for that which shuts it down until u rectify the short. if that's done while the amp is receiving a signal, especially at high volume, it could definitely get by the protection & blow something. happened to me way back w/ my old kenwood when the wire had a short in the middle somewhere. ------------------ Klipsch KLF 30 (front), KLF C-7, Cornwall I (rear) Velodyne HGS-18 sub woofer Monsterbass 400 sub interconnects & Monster CX-2 biwire & Z-12 cable Marantz SR-8000 receiver Sony DVP-C650D cd/dvd player Sony Trinitron 27" stereo tv Toshiba hi-fi stereo vcr Technics dual cassette deck Scientific Atlanta Explorer 2000 digital cable box Boa's Listenin Lounge: Klipsch RF-3 (front), RC-3, cheap little Technics (rear) Monster MCX Biwires Sony STR-DE935 a/v receiver Kenwood KR-9600 AM/FM stereo receiver (vintage 1975) Russound AB-2 receiver switch to RF-3 Teac PD-D1200 5-disk cd changer Technics SL-1950 turntable/AT LS500 cartridge Sega Genesis game player Sub: None yet rock on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwK Posted June 24, 2001 Author Share Posted June 24, 2001 Thats it then Thats how I messed up my dads kenwood. I was doing some funky wiring, dont wanna get into it.. to get my Pro Medias hooked up. The Pros played fine, at low vol, because of theyer amp, but his speakers, werent loud at all.... so I kept turning it up. Till the lights on the sytem blinked.... and went away. The red light, that says its on stand by, or what ever still works, just......... none of the others, nothing happens when you turn it on. Any advice on how to fix it? He has the skimatics on it.... ------------------ Living Room: Yamaha Natural Sound A-500 Stereo Amplifier 2 Klipsch Heresys on A switch 2 Fisher STV-873 on B switch My Room: Klipsch Pro Medias 2 Fisher Surrounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhawki Posted June 24, 2001 Share Posted June 24, 2001 OK, first off, a big DOH, BART! <choke, strangle> Now, in my opinion, you just gave him a good reason to upgrade to something decent. The guys where i went to look at Denon receivers called it "driftwood" I've got an old Kenwood i picked up years ago (let's see, Betamax was still around, umm 10 years ?) Anyway, still going strong, but i've seen and read enough on them, well if you look inside, you'll see. Lots of ribbon cable, very small capacitors and transformers, etc. but i digress... As far as repair, first thing i would try is just unplugging it and letting it sit for a few minutes and then see if it comes back up. Hopefully the amp shut down before it self destructed and unplugging it will reset it. If not there may be a fuse internally or a reset button (?) like on a power strip. Check the manual, yea that bunch of paper you threw aside when you opened the box just like i did when i got my Yamaha. -Rich This message has been edited by rhawki on 06-24-2001 at 11:52 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwK Posted June 25, 2001 Author Share Posted June 25, 2001 lol, ya. I was thinking about it some more..... and it might have been because I was using 2 Y adapters... to make a long story short, I had the left and right signal joined into one, sent to the Pro's, sent back split into 2, and back to the AMp.. I think that might have done it............... (figured this after I asked my question on having the Heresys on A and B switch and getting Boas answer) Well, I let it sit, about an hour or so, didnt work, tried it when I went back the next time (had been unplugeD) didnt work... I guess, if he wants to next time, we can take his paper work on it, open it up.... and figure out whats wrong with it. On him upgrading he wants to get some nice speakers.. after I dragged him to HillCrest Hi Fi... So after that, (he'll be getting a new Amp to... I think he will need one....) I get his Kenwood speakers (which.. arnt that bad and powerful.. 150 watt ) and his Kenwood Amp, which will hopeflly be fixable. For my room along with my Pro Medias, and my large Fishers (middle of trying to upgrade with horns) ------------------ Living Room: Yamaha Natural Sound A-500 Stereo Amplifier 2 Klipsch Heresys on A switch 2 Fisher STV-873 on B switch My Room: Klipsch Pro Medias 2 Fisher Surrounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted June 25, 2001 Share Posted June 25, 2001 dwk, i'd go about as far as looking inside that amp to visually see if it has any of those internal fuses & one or more is blown. if not that i'd guess a blown capacitor or such & i'd take it into the shop. you'd most likely need testing equipment, tools, real know-how to work on that stuff. ------------------ Klipsch KLF 30 (front), KLF C-7, Cornwall I (rear) Velodyne HGS-18 sub woofer Monsterbass 400 sub interconnects & Monster CX-2 biwire & Z-12 cable Marantz SR-8000 receiver Sony DVP-C650D cd/dvd player Sony Trinitron 27" stereo tv Toshiba hi-fi stereo vcr Technics dual cassette deck Scientific Atlanta Explorer 2000 digital cable box Boa's Listenin Lounge: Klipsch RF-3 (front), RC-3, cheap little Technics (rear) Monster MCX Biwires Sony STR-DE935 a/v receiver Kenwood KR-9600 AM/FM stereo receiver (vintage 1975) Russound AB-2 receiver switch to RF-3 Teac PD-D1200 5-disk cd changer Technics SL-1950 turntable/AT LS500 cartridge Sega Genesis game player Sub: None yet rock on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwK Posted June 25, 2001 Author Share Posted June 25, 2001 alrighty thanks guyz. I'll try and talk him into opening it next time I am over there. ------------------ Living Room: Yamaha Natural Sound A-500 Stereo Amplifier 2 Klipsch Heresys on A switch 2 Fisher STV-873 on B switch My Room: Klipsch Pro Medias 2 Fisher Surrounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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