ACDCRB25 Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Hey everyone I recently Purchased Eagles Hotel Calif. in DVD-A and am loving the quality on the multi speaker set... the disc however does not work 2ch which is currently all I have. I am wondering if anyone can recmmoend good 192khz DVD-A tracks because I have yet to experience the full quality that DVD-A OR SACD has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddvj Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 What do you mean it "does not work 2ch." On the menu there is a selection for stereo or 5.1. Just as an fyi, 192kHz is only available in 2 channel. The 6 channel is 96/24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACDCRB25 Posted October 18, 2005 Author Share Posted October 18, 2005 I mean the disc it self WILL not play in 2ch I already made apost about it not playing 2ch mode, and people agreed and confirmed my suspiscion that on the disc the menu for 2ch mode does not play audio... it just goes through the screens and makes no noise. Now can you guys please list me off a few good dvd-a or SACD discs that can play 2channel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfogg Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 "" I mean the disc it self WILL not play in 2ch I already made apost about it not playing 2ch mode, and people agreed and confirmed my suspiscion that on the disc the menu for 2ch mode does not play audio... it just goes through the screens and makes no noise." Are you connected to the player with digital or analog connections? To hear the high resolution tracks on most players you must use the analog outputs of the players. In a few cases the high resolution tracks are available via. firewire connections. If you are connected via. digital coax or Toslink you aren't hearing the high resolution information. Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACDCRB25 Posted October 18, 2005 Author Share Posted October 18, 2005 I connected some cheap RCA cables on the back.. the 5 dollar special ones or whatever they are... on my DV-45A to my multi channel inputs on my VSX-815K (Since I do not have more then two speakers I left the four surround and sub channels alone) so it's only connected to left/right on the input side. When I goto display on my Dvd remote.. it shows that it is infact playing or trying to play 192khz (only while in 2ch mode) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfogg Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 "When I goto display on my Dvd remote.. it shows that it is infact playing or trying to play 192khz (only while in 2ch mode)" You likely have something setup wrong somewhere. The 192kHz 2 channel track plays fine on my player. Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddvj Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Ditto on mine, although I ususally play the Multi-Channel. I wouldn't go out and invest in any more discs until you get this one figured out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddvj Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 You also don't mention how you've done it, but not only do you need to hook the cables to the Multi-Channel Input on your receiver, you must also use the multi-channel Outputs on the DVD player. In other words don't just use the plugs you would use if you were hooking it up directly to your TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACDCRB25 Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 I ran the disc in 2ch and swapped the two rca's over too front left right in the 5.1/6.1 ports and back and forth between the two and still no audio.... I will really have to take a look at it later because i'm busy but yeah... i tried both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddvj Posted October 22, 2005 Share Posted October 22, 2005 Oh yeah, one other thing... you have to select Multi-Channel as your source. Your receiver treats it as a seperate input. So in other words if you have it on DVD and push play, the receiver doesn't know to use the Multi-Channel inputs. Kinda important step we missed. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACDCRB25 Posted October 22, 2005 Author Share Posted October 22, 2005 I appreciate all your feedback but this is alot more indepth than I was used too not too long ago... theres like 3 different sets of ports i'm trying to get working and not only that... theres menus' to fiddle around with too.. I have tried doing signal select.. The way I have everything setup currently...(physical connections not settings) is my left and right audio is plugged into 2ch out from the dvd player and plugged into the 5.1 fr left and right ins of the DVD/LD slots... This only resulted in the playing of the multi-channel function on the dvd Wow this stuff is complicated... and it's not even that advanced compared to what some stuff is/does.... I've also connected 2ch out into the same ports on the receiver and got the same result with the dvd (multi ch plays stereo doesn't) If you guys could help guide me or help me troubleshoot the problem from square one it would be REALLY appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddvj Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 Okay, here are some step by step instructions. First hook up player as shown: Next, Go into the DVD Player's set-up menu and pick setup navigator, then scroll down to Audio Out Settings, and enable 5.1 Ch audio out. (I'd recommend going through the rest of the settings as well, if you haven't already. There are a lot of other settings to change. besides these.) Lastly, press the button on the front panel of the receiver labled Signal Select and follow the instructions posted below. (I'm not sure it matters if you select DVD/LD or not, unless you have your video routed through the receiver, but it can't hurt). That should be all you need. Select the 2 Channel, High Resolution track from the menu and enjoy. Here is a link to the Manual, which I used to make these instructions: http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pio/pe/vgn/images/portal/cit_11221/50124operating_instructions_DV-45A_20034141136237600.pdf. Good Luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACDCRB25 Posted October 23, 2005 Author Share Posted October 23, 2005 I appreciate all your help, I completely redid my connections and settings and its' still not playing any sound... I hit the display feature and it says it's playin 2.0 192khz/24 bit but no sound is playing.... the countdown timers still tick too... Do you think it could be the disc or electronical faliure thats causing this? or maybe my dvd player would need an update in firmware... what do you think. Also back to the original topic... Know of any other good proven to work 2ch dvd-a or sacd discs with 192khz? I am really psyched and dissapointed in the error's i'm seeing so far in this disc and setup... The 96khz surround mode sounds simply anmazing even from a 2.0 setup, I can't wait to hear the 192khz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddvj Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 No, it doesn't seem like it is the disc or your player that is causing this. The player and disc are working fine. It is your receiver, the connections, or a missed setting. The correct signal is reaching your receiver, but something is stopping the sound from coming out. What does the display on the receiver say? It should say "DVD 5.1ch" and the Analog signal select should be lit up. If it does not say exactly DVD 5.1ch, if it says "DVD/LD" you need to click the input select button until it does. If that is displayed and you have the cables hooked up like the diagram, there is no reason why it will not work, and I would contact Pioneer and don't give up until they give you a reason. There is no reason to try other discs, because if this doesn't work, no others will either. I can confirm with absolute certainty that the 2 channel, 192kHz track works on this disc. For the record, I do not know of any other 192kHz discs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 There is no reason to try other discs, because if this doesn't work, no others will either. I can confirm with absolute certainty that the 2 channel, 192kHz track works on this disc. For the record, I do not know of any other 192kHz discs. Wow! How do you feel about the numbers 9, 5, & 7 in the Texas Pick 3 lottery tonight?[] BTW, the DVD-A "Electric Warrior," by T- Rex has an ARS 192Hz/24-bit stereo version on it. The 96Hz/24-bit ARS surround sound version is awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACDCRB25 Posted October 23, 2005 Author Share Posted October 23, 2005 No, it doesn't seem like it is the disc or your player that is causing this. The player and disc are working fine. It is your receiver, the connections, or a missed setting. The correct signal is reaching your receiver, but something is stopping the sound from coming out. What does the display on the receiver say? It should say "DVD 5.1ch" and the Analog signal select should be lit up. If it does not say exactly DVD 5.1ch, if it says "DVD/LD" you need to click the input select button until it does. If that is displayed and you have the cables hooked up like the diagram, there is no reason why it will not work, and I would contact Pioneer and don't give up until they give you a reason. There is no reason to try other discs, because if this doesn't work, no others will either. I can confirm with absolute certainty that the 2 channel, 192kHz track works on this disc. For the record, I do not know of any other 192kHz discs. The receiver displays those exact words (DVD 5.1ch Analog is lit up), do you think there could be some other wonky setting on my receiver that could be screwing it up?.... oh you did say that. I'm going to try resetting my receiver and seeing if that does anything to fix it I guess I will give pioneer a call in due time, either that or take the disc down to the shop that I purchased it from (also sells Klipsch) so i'll try it on their highest end models and setup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACDCRB25 Posted October 26, 2005 Author Share Posted October 26, 2005 Update: I brought both the disc and the dvd player down too Aurora Tv & Radio (where I bought my setup) and showed them the problem (still happend), we tried a bunch of different output combinations on a Elite 56txi receiver (and my dvd player) and still nothing Later on today there gonna try connecting the high end elite dvd player (DV59-AVI) too the VSX-59 TXI receiver too see if its just the compatitiability and functionality issue, they also called Pioneer Electronics in Manitoba (my province) and told them the issues and problems and the guy and business there doesn't know what too make of the issue. So there bringing the situation up too Pioneer Toronto too see if they know anything about the issue and problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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