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That is my expectation too but when its 895 CAD for Damagaed floor/show demo models... its kinda high. ANd considering another dealer in my province (2 hours away) sell brand new ones for 100 bucks less something has gotta change.

Talked too the dealer he won't budge in the price. Can anyoen else do me a favor and head down too the local Klipsch dealer and see what he/she sells the 35's for? Klipsch dealers please enlighten me on the present discontinued MSRP for the RF35's.

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I'll take that into consideration, whats the MSRP from other stores does anyone know? Hey Klipsch.com guys what are your thoughts on this... I really want these speakers but if there overpriced i'm not gettin em.

Apparantly he was trying too sell them for 1700 for a pair at first (He asks are you from Brandon..) I respond yes, cause I am. Then he tells me the price is 1200, after that i showed him the fact that they are now dicontinued.. he said he'd give me a special price (895 without taxes). Other pictures: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Syph_r4dic/scuff1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Syph_r4dic/scuff2.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Syph_r4dic/scuff3.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Syph_r4dic/scuff4.jpg Ebay listing price conversion 793.28 USDUnited States Dollars = 898.041 CAD Canada Dollars 1 USD = 1.13206 CAD 1 CAD = 0.883345 USD

I'm looking into buying a pair of RF35's from my local Klipsch Dealer (Aurora Tv&Video), as you all know they are NOW discountinued. The models I'm looking into purchasing are store displays so theres some wear and tear on them (little chips in the woodgrain MDF at the bottom of the towers and a few little nicks down there as well, mostly the corners. The guy wants to sell them to me for 895 CAD WITHOUT taxes, what price do you think I should try to get them to sell me em' for? $600.xx? (due too discontinuation and damage on the store display models... he has no more in stock).

Update: A Pioneer Tech came down from Toronto too the Pioneer/Klipsch store in my city to troubleshoot this problem with Hotel Calif. I was having, and the results are in: He proclaimed that the problem is with the DISC itself, hardly any discs whether they say it or not will play 192khz. This disc is no exception. My hardware as far as the Pioneer Tech. said will defnitly play a disc in 192 if the disc has that format, Hotel California says it does... but it's basically false advertising (it has the menu's and all, but it won't play it). Edit: Now that I know this problem is solved, any good rock/music that relaxes you in 192khz that you could recommend?

Magnetic Levitation is the name of this phenonmenon its the technology that trains in Britain are going to be making use of soon enough (or already are).

Klipsch Gnomes, need I say more? Steal your wife's Garden Gnomes and stick em on top of the speaker making sure too clean the bases of them and ride them of dirt and whatnot prior too the duty. Also make sure no matter what if your putting something of a harder density on top of the speakers protect the surface with felt or something like that for the bare minimum lol. The last thing you want is scratches in the MDF.

If firewire isn't a requirement might I recommend the Pioneer DV-45A I have it and love it, I have found no problems with it except for the lack to play 2 channel DVD-A discs (well only one that i've tried Eagles Hotel California in 192khz). I have an ongoing releationship about this problem with my local Klipsch/Elite dealer who is in contact with Pioneer Toronto about it as the inabilitiy to play these (but still displays everything like it is but no sound comes out) has stumped my provincial Pioneer location (Pioneer Manitoba Canada). All points aside from that issue that I am experiencing (which I know IS NOT my receiver doing it because they tried it on the Elite 59TXI receiver and it did not output the sound as well in the same fashion that mine was doing it), this is a very good DVD player which can be had for about 400 dollars or so.

If I won a lottery or got a stupid sum of money instantly I'd defnitly put those wires too good use []

If you do this, then I would highly highly recommend moving your TV into the corner and putting your system at an angle to the room. I looked at your pictures and I think this would work out just fine with the rest of the layout. At the very least just try temporarily moving some speakers around and see how drastic the changes are. So you are recommending that if I am going to upgrade my system I do it too something more major then a $300 dollar center channel? But instead get a RF35 pair of towers for $930 which I will notice its effects ALOT more due too having sound thrown from the back instead of just the front and have the bass of the larger dual woofers on the tower speakers? Also you are recommending I opt for the 35's and not the 25's? due too the mininmal price difference and the increased Bass on the towers?

Job or not, I'm in the process of looking for a new one so I can continue my HT upgrade plans, chance are I can find a job that pays even better so I can upgrade both sooner and get higher end equipment then I originally planned.

VERY helpful and informative post, Tomorrow (as my family is currently sleeping) I will run the MCCAC test and config on the room too see if I notice a major improvement or not... I have just taken a few pictures of the room too completly explain my room layout, no more sketchy drawings that aren't detailed... I got the real pictures here for yah.. lol The pictures can be found here: http://www.kazien.com/2005_11_08/ DrWho all your questions about the media center and room locations will be asnwered in the pictures, If I did get towers I would probably take off the two left and right shelves too the sides of the TV, and place the main speakers there.. meanwhile moving all of the electronics too the top or bottom of the television, that is the only way I can make sense of moving the equipment. Anyway I'm off too sleep for the night, and I'll run the MCCAC in the morning and see what the results are cheers EDIT: I guess for now I will be holding off on the upgrades as I just got fired from my production job at Inventronics, but still lets keep this conversation going for future ideas on what would be the best path for me.... I have the itch and the bug for better sound quality and harmonics.

I kinda took the shortcut while doing that picture, too the left of the "Media Center" is an open area, and too the right of it is a room with another door (too the right of that door yet is a fairly large closet, so that is where the media center has too be. I will contribute more too ths thread when I get home.

The only animal related freak outs i've noticed... whenever I turn my receiver up too -30ish with my RB25 Stereo Setup my one cat if its sittin on the couch, no matter what I play bolts off and prances up the stairs (like a gazelle, jumping with the back legs then the front over and over and moving like that)... and my other cat just sits beside em and rears her ears back and enjoys the tunes.... normally the one that doesn't care about the music is the one thats afraid of everything else... Go figure,animals... Yeah I have on occasion at my friends house mistaken nosies like glass shattering, (he almost lives in a sketchy area of town, so I thought some vandals were outside smashin up some windows) good times when you reailze thats not the case...

DrWho Right now I currently only OWN a 2 channel RB25 system and I am borrowing the RC-25 Center and loving it, it allows me to take some burden off of the mains and allows me too increase the volume without the whole system bogging down/reaching its peak (or distort). My plan for the system in its final stages are: RF25 Mains (35 if I decide I can afford it), RC-25 Center, RSW10/RW12, RB25 Surrounds (own), pioneer VSX1015TX receiver If I need more driving power. That is what I envision my system being, if by some chance I win a lottery or such I will finish this one up and create a flagship one and have this one for the upstairs set [] The Question now is, would you recommend I keep the center or buy a sub or some better mains and have the rb25 as surrounds, what do you think would sound better in a non MCCAC'd room with dimensions of (not including opened doors/otherr non doored rooms) 22 feet squared roughly. The listening position is roughly 12 feet from the speaker system and therefore 10feet from the back wall, and it is about five feet from the side wall (where the speakers are). So you can help me assess what would be the best accousitcal upgrade (provide the best surround experience or pseudo-surround) I did up a drawing of the room which can be seen below:

yes that is correct that I do not have a sub, do you recommend I take the center channel back and grab a sub until i can upgrade again?

Hey everyone, i'm currently testing out a pair of RC25 centers and loving them... they of course match up QUITE well with my RB25 bookshelves (fronts). I love their sound and everything but I am wondering what would be a better deal for the dollar (opting for the $800 RF25 fronts, RSW10 sub for a grand or so, the center and the rw8 $330) or some other audio upgrade? Of course if I do get some new fronts the bookshelves would be set into the rear (unless i got another pair of them), my system is quite good too my tastes but because of my larger room size the sound isn't bouncing off the wall as well as I think it should... I am going to do a MCCAC config on it fairly soon too see if I notice any improvements. Can you share any insight or suggestions too aid me?

I will defnitly pick this title up very soon, too bad my system is such an entry level one... ahh well at least it's klipsch (horn loaded of course)... The RB-25's are impressive alone, but they lack the ability to play the 120 hz channel or something around there. Also they lack the bass response of the tower speakers. Not too mention I don't have a sub yet eithre.... My next upgrade for my system will be an HDMI equipped TV for the Xbox360 that I will be getting.

Update: I brought both the disc and the dvd player down too Aurora Tv & Radio (where I bought my setup) and showed them the problem (still happend), we tried a bunch of different output combinations on a Elite 56txi receiver (and my dvd player) and still nothing Later on today there gonna try connecting the high end elite dvd player (DV59-AVI) too the VSX-59 TXI receiver too see if its just the compatitiability and functionality issue, they also called Pioneer Electronics in Manitoba (my province) and told them the issues and problems and the guy and business there doesn't know what too make of the issue. So there bringing the situation up too Pioneer Toronto too see if they know anything about the issue and problems.

The receiver displays those exact words (DVD 5.1ch Analog is lit up), do you think there could be some other wonky setting on my receiver that could be screwing it up?.... oh you did say that. I'm going to try resetting my receiver and seeing if that does anything to fix it I guess I will give pioneer a call in due time, either that or take the disc down to the shop that I purchased it from (also sells Klipsch) so i'll try it on their highest end models and setup

I appreciate all your help, I completely redid my connections and settings and its' still not playing any sound... I hit the display feature and it says it's playin 2.0 192khz/24 bit but no sound is playing.... the countdown timers still tick too... Do you think it could be the disc or electronical faliure thats causing this? or maybe my dvd player would need an update in firmware... what do you think. Also back to the original topic... Know of any other good proven to work 2ch dvd-a or sacd discs with 192khz? I am really psyched and dissapointed in the error's i'm seeing so far in this disc and setup... The 96khz surround mode sounds simply anmazing even from a 2.0 setup, I can't wait to hear the 192khz

I appreciate all your feedback but this is alot more indepth than I was used too not too long ago... theres like 3 different sets of ports i'm trying to get working and not only that... theres menus' to fiddle around with too.. I have tried doing signal select.. The way I have everything setup currently...(physical connections not settings) is my left and right audio is plugged into 2ch out from the dvd player and plugged into the 5.1 fr left and right ins of the DVD/LD slots... This only resulted in the playing of the multi-channel function on the dvd Wow this stuff is complicated... and it's not even that advanced compared to what some stuff is/does.... I've also connected 2ch out into the same ports on the receiver and got the same result with the dvd (multi ch plays stereo doesn't) If you guys could help guide me or help me troubleshoot the problem from square one it would be REALLY appreciated

I ran the disc in 2ch and swapped the two rca's over too front left right in the 5.1/6.1 ports and back and forth between the two and still no audio.... I will really have to take a look at it later because i'm busy but yeah... i tried both