Jump to content

SS amplification: MOSFET power vs. Class A


richieb

Recommended Posts

Have been toying with the idea of using pure Class A power with my

Belles/Corns. Currently using a MOSFET powered integrated with

excellent results; crystal clear, zero grain, smooth, detailed and

non-fatiguing. My question, do Class A and MFET mimic each other in the

way they operate in that both are non-switching? Am I correct that MFET

is non-switching? Will Class A give that almost tube-like sound that

MFET gives? I may buy the Class A and test one against the other, odd

man out.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

mosfet has nothing to do with class a operation ....

do you like the "mosfet mist" ..???

bi-polar devices rule ..........

"Mist" lifted long ago but I see grandstanding rules over constructive

comments. Observing the forum has become much more enjoyable than

posting.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

what specific amp are you using? and what specific amp are you looking to upgrade to?

It's great fun to discuss the differences and inherant limitations to different amplifier topologies, but in the end it is a most pointless discussion as there are always good and bad implementations of each kind...not to mention the complications introduced by the loudspeaker-amplifier interaction.

That said, I'm yet to hear a mosfet style amplifier that I enjoy completely...and there is nothing about a strictly class A amp that makes it sound any better than any of the others. Though in a colder listening room a high powered class A amp will work wonders, keeping it warmer for you [;)]

Also, what kind of music do you listen to?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Richie,

Isn't your Redgum Class A biased using MOS FETs as the output devices?

That's about as close to tubes using SS devices that I know of.

Being Class A biased means that the device is always conducting eliminating turn on transients normally found in bi-polar devices. That iswhat causes the bi-polar AB biased amp to sound a little rough around the edges.

Whether there are better executions by other builders I will leave for others.

Rick

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Duke, Duke, Duke, You are so '70s with those mega amps. The new paradigm is low power clean watts.[;)][;)][:)]

I think that is because most of us ruined our hearing in the '70s running a few hundred watts through our Klipschorns. [:(]

Why does loud music always sound better with rope?[6]

Rick

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The paradigm with big ole horns is clean low power. With conventional loudspeakers, the paradigm has always been power, power, power; in an attempt to get the amazing low distortion, clarity, soundstage, dynamics and bass that ultra-efficient horns provide. [;)]

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Duke, Duke, Duke, You are so '70s with those

mega amps. The new paradigm is low power clean watts.[;)][;)][:)]

Rick

No, No Rick.....

with Klipsch, my amps rarely bump offa 1/2 - 1 watt

with JBL, 4 - 5 watts

none of the Crowns has Any measurable distortion at milliwatt levels, just ask LeoK

but ... Transients ...!!!

there's some beef behind the music......

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'll say it AGAIN: there is something to be said about a high current amp's large capacity PS even just idling along.

It gives a dramatic ability for dynamic changes and the BASS - the BASS even at low watts has a certain solidity and authority often lacking in low(er) power amps!

DM

Link to comment
Share on other sites

"none of the Crowns has Any measurable distortion at milliwatt levels"

Any? That isn't true. I have measured a K2 at those levels. It was clean but certainly can't claim no distortion.

I have yet to see an amp that has no distortion.

Shawn

C'mon Shawn .....

yer bustin' my nuts, right .....???

the D-75 has what. " .003 " at < 1 watt

the K-2 is lower .......

can you hear that ..??? ...NOT ..!

can you compare to other amps ...????? .......Yes, they are much higher

besides ... I don't listen to Specifications ...

i find listening to Music much more fulfilling

Link to comment
Share on other sites

" yer bustin' my nuts, right .....???"

No, I have measured a K2.

"can you hear that ..??? ...NOT ..!"

Didn't say you can. I said you can see it on measurements. I posted them here.

" can you compare to other amps ...????"

Yes.

"besides ... I don't listen to Specifications ..."

Then why post them?

"i find listening to Music much more fulfilling"

So do I. But I'm not the one that claimed the distortion was not measurable at low levels on a Crown.

The attached is a K2 running at .1w into an 8 ohm load. You can see

second, third, fifth and seventh order distortion at that level.

Shawn

post-12845-13819276193336_thumb.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

OOOOH ...

"measureable"

now i see ....

i shoulda said ..."audible " ....[;)]

Apparently You Missed This, Shawn ......[:D]....[:D].......[:D]

can't read yer photo ..

but of course it's interesting ..

frequency .??

how many db down ...??

being SS, you get them odd order harmonics ...too bad they don't behave like a Tube

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The test is at 50hz at .1w. About .89v. Second harmonic is at about .0004v.

"being SS, you get them odd order harmonics ...too bad they don't behave like a Tube"

Tubes have odd order harmonics too. The attached is a tube amp at 1w. Second and third harmonics are showing up.

Shawn

post-12845-13819276194746_thumb.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...