iwillwalk Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 with my k-horns & no other cornner wher are you going to put it? as a coffee table in the moddle of the room, then you have to explain why everyones beer is flying at them.............could be a good thing. has anyone heard this new corrner hog by klipsch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damonrpayne Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 I am planning on getting one of these when my room is done. Since the corner placement is rather limiting I was going to look into building a corner loader for it. Maybe assymetrical "X" made out of 1" mdf where it can sit in the front of the X?? I could take it outside and measure the SPL at a given volume @ 1meter with and without the mini-corner to see how much it helps. The answer to this is probably the closer it gets in size to my wall the more it helps [] but actual measurements would help other people decide if the project is worthwhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love_hertz Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 I have the new RT-12d and it rocks. I used to own a RSW-12 and it beats it in the lower range hands down. If you get a chance to play with one, go on the digital menu and play the DEMO 2 and watch it shake the room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Well, it's not intended at all to be 'corner loaded' so the room corner is just another spot to put it. I would think with one driver and two passives that it might be less dependent on room placement than other single-driver models. Experiement with scooting it up next to the wall if you want, but know that it has some type of computer controller inside that is supposed to help make it less room-dependent. In other words, don't worry about it. M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 here ya go By utilizing a patent-pending auto room correction process, formally known as Adaptive Room Correction or ARC, and the included calibration microphone, the RT-12d ensures ideal performance in every listening area at the touch of a button. It also comes with an IR sensor for operation from any learning remote or control system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Couldn't you put it on top of your khorns? [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Couldn't you put it on top of your khorns? [] Doc, I'm surprised at you! Everyone knows that the bass notes are heavier and tend to sink to the floor. That is why the woofers are generally lower in the cabinets than the tweeters. Putting the sub on top of a Khorn for example, would cause serious detriment as the sub sound waves slide off the top of the cabinet and fall to the floor, taking the tweeters notes with them. Leave the subs on the floor where they belong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay481985 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Couldn't you put it on top of your khorns? [] Doc, I'm surprised at you! Everyone knows that the bass notes are heavier and tend to sink to the floor. That is why the woofers are generally lower in the cabinets than the tweeters. Putting the sub on top of a Khorn for example, would cause serious detriment as the sub sound waves slide off the top of the cabinet and fall to the floor, taking the tweeters notes with them. Leave the subs on the floor where they belong. Huh??? by placing them on the top of the horn you may infact lose some db but lose some boominess... You lose floor loading but you might stop some standing waves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay481985 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Couldn't you put it on top of your khorns? [] Doc, I'm surprised at you! Everyone knows that the bass notes are heavier and tend to sink to the floor. That is why the woofers are generally lower in the cabinets than the tweeters. Putting the sub on top of a Khorn for example, would cause serious detriment as the sub sound waves slide off the top of the cabinet and fall to the floor, taking the tweeters notes with them. Leave the subs on the floor where they belong. Huh??? by placing them on the top of the horn you may infact lose some db but lose some boominess... You lose floor loading but you might stop some standing waves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 I think he's joking... By putting the sub higher up you lose the 1/8th space loading at frequencies above 75Hz. You'll also have a boundary cancellation with the floor (3dB notch out) at 67 and 75Hz. Frequencies below 65Hz will still see the 1/8th space loading. So the only losses that are going to occur will be higher in frequency (usually not a bad thing with a subwoofer). A room with an 8 foot cieling is going to have its first vertical standing wave at 71Hz - so when you change the height of the sub you will change the nodal distribution of this standing wave putting the listening position right around the 90 degree point - which means the listener won't notice any amplitude effects from that particular standing wave. And since this is the fundamental mode as a result of the height you are going to effectively clean up the entire modal structure. Well that's how the theory goes (to the best of my understanding)...I too prefer the subs on the floor because of the "floor shock" as Colter likes to put it [] There is however going to be no interaction between the bass notes and tweeter notes other than what is supposed to happen. If anything, you want the bass and tweeter notes to originate from the exact same location in space (which is almost impossible to achieve). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay481985 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 I hope he was joking...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 yup, but that's a good one, eh? Try that on your newbie audiofreaks! I do notice that in the new online literature, they do show the little guy setting in a corner. M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay481985 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Its more oh an option, heck it eats less space then a tradition box in a corner. But I bet many new to audio, rich in the wallet might just shove the rt-12d right into the corner leaving the pr no room to breathe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwillwalk Posted September 8, 2006 Author Share Posted September 8, 2006 does anybody have one & how much did it cot. i wonder what SVS THINKS ABOUT IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay481985 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 I bet they are not to pleased....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 To answer your original question.... I don't think they have to be mounted in the corner. Subs naturally perform better when tucked into the corners, but there shouldn't be anything inherant with the loading on the PR's that requires them to be close to the wall. And due to the size of the wavelengths you are going to see very similar loading even if you pull it out a couple feet (like positioned in front of a khorn). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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