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I answered a Craigslist ad for some classic gear and speakers. The ad was very vague so I had no idea what to expect. I get to the house and was shown a pair of Cornwall II's with a lattice front cover. There was no Klipsch badge on the front, but the back still had the Klipsch tag. Has anyone ever seen Cornwalls with a lattice cover? They were very ugly and sort of resembled the old Sansui speakers of the 1960s. I guess I could play them without any grill cover.

I was unable to test them because the owner did not have a working stereo. I am going back on Sunday with some of my gear to test them. The owner said they had not been used in years (maybe 20 years). The back of one of them had been removed and was leaning on the speaker. Is there anything I should look for? The asking price was "around" $600.

John

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That's cool, but it's not that great of a deal (IMHO).

If the back was off, it isn't a Cornwall II, but a Cornwall "I" (access for drivers on the II is from the front).

I see $500-700 Cornwalls in good shape quite often (usually first generation... which some folks prefer).

I don't know the particulars, but it just doesn't sound all that promising. Just my two cents.

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That's cool, but it's not that great of a deal (IMHO).

If the back was off, it isn't a Cornwall II, but a Cornwall "I" (access for drivers on the II is from the front).

I see $500-700 Cornwalls in good shape quite often (usually first generation... which some folks prefer).

I don't know the particulars, but it just doesn't sound all that promising. Just my two cents.

The tag on the back clearly said Cornwall II. At $600 it is not very promising, but as I said before there is more to the story. I will fill you in later.

John

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Nope.

The covers were wood lattice and they looked like sort of like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Pioneer-CS-A31-Pre-Vintage-3-Way-Large-Stereo-Speakers_W0QQitemZ320081060204

only with a large size lattice.

They also did not have the riser underneath them.

John

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[The tag on the back clearly said Cornwall II. At $600 it is not very promising, but as I said before there is more to the story. I will fill you in later.]

Are the horns positioned horizontally or vertically? Is it not the case that the old vertical Cornwalls (ca. 1960s) show a "II" on the tag, which did not mean "2" but was a symbol representing the vertical (vs. standard horizontal) version?

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Others with more knowledge of the history can chime in here, but the

vertical orientation of the horns make those models currently desirable

as a center speaker for Heritage HT set-ups, as most will be turned on

their sides to go under a TV. The dispersion of the horns will then

match two standard horizontal models in front L&R positions.

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Look for the serial number stamped into the edge of the plywood above the label (if the label is unreadable) If it contains a letter "A" through "L" it is for sure a Vertical Conwall II. The change over from vertical to horizontal took place in 1974 (the "M") year so the the "M" could be either.

The verticals are more desirable because they sound better IMHO! If the drivers are original they will have Klipsch logos on them. The K-77 tweeter is a round ALNICO. The K-55V squaker is a round ALNICO. The K-33 woofer is a square "mud" magnet. Should the serial number contain either the letters be A, B, C and maybe D and the woofer is round do not leave there without them!! If you don't want them I will come and get them from you!!

Based on the example you pointed to, the "lattice" covers are probable caine.

Best of luck, keep us informed and 600 would be a steal price for Verticals

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Here's Bob Crites take on the issue (quoted from another thread):

"It is a real problem to try to figure out the Cornwall saga. The

vertical and horizontal horn models were built concurrently up until

sometime in the 70s. Some of the Cornwall vertical horn models are

designated as Cornwall II and some are not. I have a set of vertical

horn Cornwalls with one marked Cornwall II and one marked Cornwall.

When you get to the end of the original Cornwalls in the early 80s, all

bets are off on what you find inside the cabinets. The driver sets and

crossover types are bewildering.



Then we get to 1986 and the "newer" Cornwall II. They have a (in most

cases) MDF cabinet instead of the earlier plywood and the backs are not

removable. All drivers mounted from the front. The crossovers in these

are a genuine mess and look like they came out of Mrs. Beasley's

kindergarten arts and crafts class. The crossovers will need a rebuild.

In fact they needed the rebuild before leaving the factory. The

Cornwall II moved completely away from the expensive driver set found

in the early Cornwalls to a driver set that probably cost about 1/4 as

much and a cabinet that cost much less to build also. Somehow the

speakers manage to sound very good."




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